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    Progesterone has diuretic-like effects

    Tren + DHT would be 'dry'

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    Matt, what's your suggestion for a natty guy who has difficulty with water retention. I hold a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrganicShadow View Post
    Matt, what's your suggestion for a natty guy who has difficulty with water retention. I hold a lot.
    Probably should define natural (yes I know, here goes that again).

    What I mean is, natural = no hormones, or natural = only over the counter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skoalcrush View Post
    Is there a supplement/stack that isn't a ph that will give that dry/vascular look?

    If so which?

    Thanks
    Extra vitC will help dry you out, and add some caffein maybe.
    its more where your body is at, not supps. im vascular with nothing, some can take a boat load of stuff and still not have much of anything.

    GPLC may help also
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrganicShadow View Post
    Matt, what's your suggestion for a natty guy who has difficulty with water retention. I hold a lot.

    Lower carbs, high fluid intake. Eat cucumbers and asparagus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy

    Probably should define natural (yes I know, here goes that again).

    What I mean is, natural = no hormones, or natural = only over the counter.
    Lol you know I love that argument of "define natural." Natural means only OTC. Things not found on the banned substance list of the INBF or FDA.

    Cucumber huh? Ok
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrganicShadow
    Matt, what's your suggestion for a natty guy who has difficulty with water retention. I hold a lot.
    Erase pro works wonders as well.
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    Matt some great info just had a chance to read through. Thanks for sharing
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift View Post
    Erase pro works wonders as well.
    Erase is great, the problem with Erase Pro is if you don't need 75mg but 50, now you have negative sides of too much AI. I always want a product I can choose the dose to suit me, BPS FormaSurge is the way to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    Erase is great, the problem with Erase Pro is if you don't need 75mg but 50, now you have negative sides of too much AI. I always want a product I can choose the dose to suit me, BPS FormaSurge is the way to go.
    Very true. This is exactly why the first time I ran Epro I dosed it every other day. Now I've been dosing daily for two months with no issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift View Post
    Very true. This is exactly why the first time I ran Epro I dosed it every other day. Now I've been dosing daily for two months with no issue.
    I could see the EOD dosing working well. I have often wondered if the additional ingredients make a difference but it sounds like they do.
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    A good diuretic always helps. I prefer natural ones such as dandelion root. But caffeine products also aid in producing that washed out look

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveToLift View Post
    Erase pro works wonders as well.
    Can't beat Erase Pro for dryness.
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    Erase and agmatine make me so vascular I appear dry
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc
    Erase and agmatine make me so vascular I appear dry
    Nice combo
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    Anabeta Elite dried me out quite nicely during a clean bulk stage - have yet to try Erase

    GF-T21 by Fahrenheit also increased my vascularity nicely, which gave the appearance of drying out
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    Straight up 1g of niacin does me well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc View Post
    Erase and agmatine make me so vascular I appear dry

    So true! I lose a ****load of water on Erase (or any strong AI). Agmatine on refeed days definitely causes extra glycogen storage in my experience, which assists in the "dryness".
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinhy View Post
    So true! I lose a ****load of water on Erase (or any strong AI). Agmatine on refeed days definitely causes extra glycogen storage in my experience, which assists in the "dryness".

    What form and what brand of Agmatine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    What form and what brand of Agmatine?

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    Client Mike looking rather 'dry' 5 days out from next show.

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    Yah...id say that's pretty dry...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter
    Client Mike looking rather 'dry' 5 days out from next show.

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    That's 5 days out? Wow, I can't imagine what his peak would be then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
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    Looks like he has his diuretic and AI just right. The question is will be carb up and look as paper thin on day of? Impressive work no doubt, he is in ridiculous shape!
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    Wow, great wheels.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jswain34 View Post
    Yah...id say that's pretty dry...
    Yeah but is it that the result of something non hormonal????I'll wager not


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    UR Spray definitely has my attention...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    UR Spray definitely has my attention...
    I swear by it, cannot bring myself to stop using it, and since it doesn't have to be cycled I don't have to
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    Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    I swear by it, cannot bring myself to stop using it, and since it doesn't have to be cycled I don't have to
    Have you had bloods taken while using it? I'm especially interested in the positive effects on cholesterol levels

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    Have you had bloods taken while using it? I'm especially interested in the positive effects on cholesterol levels
    No blood work but my bp is down 10-15 points. I am prehypertensive and that puts me in the normal range....though I am seldom normal
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    Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    Looks like he has his diuretic and AI just right. The question is will be carb up and look as paper thin on day of? Impressive work no doubt, he is in ridiculous shape!

    No diuretic.

    I will post pictures the day of,,,, which is tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    No blood work but my bp is down 10-15 points. I am prehypertensive and that puts me in the normal range....though I am seldom normal

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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    Assuming it is an ingredient in Pump Spray, I am a fan.
    You know what they say about assuming.... have you received your second bottle? I cannot remember. I bottled the last batch while I was visiting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    No diuretic.

    I will post pictures the day of,,,, which is tomorrow

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    Quote Originally Posted by truthornothin View Post
    You know what they say about assuming.... have you received your second bottle? I cannot remember. I bottled the last batch while I was visiting.
    Yes I have, should be an update for you guys tonight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oufinny View Post
    Let's see how he turned out.
    ^^^ Waiting

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    ^^^ Waiting
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