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    Quote Originally Posted by OrganicShadow View Post
    That pretty much describes Matts client. That guy is dry. And there's no other way to define it.
    Wow that is incredible condition.
    Just inject.
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    Try fasting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niZmo
    Try fasting.
    Makes sense but not exactly good advice,imo...Not eating is not good!!!!
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    I personally did fasting and it was a big mistake for my body.

    I do very well with carbs, healthy fats, and minimal cardio and intense training.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter
    I personally did fasting and it was a big mistake for my body.

    I do very well with carbs, healthy fats, and minimal cardio and intense training.

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    Im very minimal to no cardio,which isnt exactly good...I tend to lower carbs n up fats while cutting.Moore chicken as opposed to red meat,say 70%-30%...not that u dont know,just stating what i do,lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Erase Pro + Alphamine

    Anti-estrogen to dry and harden

    Alphamine to burn the fat and harden lean mass...

    And get your diet right...bad diet and thinking will give you that look
    The bold+underline is number 1, but adding in a fat burner and AI can definitely be beneficial. I loved Reversitol V2 during contest prep, but Erase is definitely a solid option as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by breezy11 View Post
    PES Erase Pro tightens up my appearance.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    Been using Erase Pro as well,so far its nice.
    I hear Alpha T2 can also help produce good results.
    Quote Originally Posted by Clickster View Post
    AX Hard FX and Erase both make me look a little tighter.
    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Erase Pro + Alphamine

    Anti-estrogen to dry and harden

    Alphamine to burn the fat and harden lean mass...

    And get your diet right...bad diet and thinking will give you that look
    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm View Post
    ^^^This, tried it and ya works similar to a dht hormone or script AI, lean and tight very little if any water retention
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    natty - Erase, Erase Pro, DAA, HGHup

    PH - andromass + Androhard. maybe even AH + AL
    Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    Definitely agree with this. A step up from anything I have ever used for this benefit.

    In general though if you don't feel you look "tight" enough you probably are just holding more fat than you want and trimming that off would be a more long term answer.
    Quote Originally Posted by OrganicShadow View Post
    This is a common effect of AIs and certain insulin mimickers. Estrogen inhibition is was "pushes water out" and tightens up.

    FreeTest, Triazole, Erase, and Rezurrect.

    Obviously the right training program and cardio are key components. Easy on dairy... Disaccharides can make skin look a little flabby.
    Quote Originally Posted by andrew732 View Post
    That sums it up...
    Quote Originally Posted by kevinhy View Post
    Agree with this!
    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    LOL @ dry look...

    What is peoples definition of DRY LOOK?

    For me -- it means BF% in the mid-low single digits. It means very very thin skin, surface veins prevalent,

    striations clear, separation between muscles clear etc.....

    Strict diet and cardio will get you that look --- Androgens help tremendously, but arent absolute mandatory.

    Fat burners help get you lean to get there --- high water intake, and moderate sodium intake helps...

    Nothing will 'dry out' over 10% bf and low muscle development.....

    Throw in AndroHard and Erase (pro)

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    Quote Originally Posted by allnatural923 View Post
    The bold+underline is number 1, but adding in a fat burner and AI can definitely be beneficial. I loved Reversitol V2 during contest prep, but Erase is definitely a solid option as well
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    Your best bet, is an ATD based AI for dryness.

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    I usually notice visible leaning effects with Erase or Topical Formestane.
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    Another example of 'dry' look.

    My client Remus -- 3 weeks out from contest

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    I'm not interested in ever becoming a bodybuilder or stepping foot on a stage, so I don't really understand the obsession with looks. To each his own though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I'm not interested in ever becoming a bodybuilder or stepping foot on a stage, so I don't really understand the obsession with looks. To each his own though.
    What is your reason for working out? Serious, not being a dick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    Another example of 'dry' look.

    My client Remus -- 3 weeks out from contest

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    -Matt
    Dude his delts are ridiculous,almost look out of proportion to his body,lol... Conditioning is fantastic.

    Forearms and calves look a bit small though
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    i think there is some lotions... not sure if they work though
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    Quote Originally Posted by criticalbench View Post
    What is your reason for working out? Serious, not being a dick.
    To keep healthy and stay fit as I age. Lower blood pressure, lower resting heart rate, strengthen bones, keep my mind sharp.
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    Like everyone has mentioned before, Erase Pro just works really well. I also liked androhard too. However, both are pretty expensive. If you want to try something on the cheap, I had a good experience with natadrol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    To keep healthy and stay fit as I age. Lower blood pressure, lower resting heart rate, strengthen bones, keep my mind sharp.
    WELL SAID BRO...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    Another example of 'dry' look.

    My client Remus -- 3 weeks out from contest

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    Crazy dry you could say. It is incredible the condition you get these guys in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone View Post
    I'm not interested in ever becoming a bodybuilder or stepping foot on a stage, so I don't really understand the obsession with looks. To each his own though.
    Working out for all the health benefits is wonderful and SHOULD be first and foremost....but hey,,, I bet you wont complain when your BF% drops and you gain some lean mass...

    BUt I understand your stance...

    But the majority of people want a 'cosmetic' effect from training....'round delts, huge arms, brick abs etc"

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone

    To keep healthy and stay fit as I age. Lower blood pressure, lower resting heart rate, strengthen bones, keep my mind sharp.
    Good to see and props to you bro. I wish you all the best and very well said.

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    8% bF and below
    DHT product such as AndroHard
    Aromatase control product such as Erase pro
    ECA/CLEN which contributes to diuresis
    11 KT for stress/cortisol control --AndroLean

    -Matt
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    8% bF and below
    DHT product such as AndroHard
    Aromatase control product such as Erase pro
    ECA/CLEN which contributes to diuresis
    11 KT for stress/cortisol control --AndroLean

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    Out of curiosity, what do you do with natural athletes rather than chemically assisted ones?
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    ^I would love to know.
    By believing passionately in something that still does not exist, we create it. The nonexistent is whatever we have not sufficiently desired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OrganicShadow
    ^I would love to know.
    That would probably depend on your definition of "natural"
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    Quote Originally Posted by uvawahoowa

    That would probably depend on your definition of "natural"
    There arent really more ways than one way to explain all natural... So i dont get what u mean.

    Anabolic..or...non anabolic

    Unless u r talking no supps at all,just food.
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    the guy who ushered in the "dry" look..no one has done it better.

    http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...QEwBg&dur=2177

    look at that 10yr progress of DY, wow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uvawahoowa

    That would probably depend on your definition of "natural"
    I have my own hang ups with this term.
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    Quote Originally Posted by criticalbench View Post
    What is your reason for working out? Serious, not being a dick.
    To out lift 99% of the world population... For all the reasons T-Bone said and simply because I like lifting things and putting them down especially heavy things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm
    To out lift 99% of the world population... For all the reasons T-Bone said and simply because I like lifting things and putting them down especially heavy things.
    Whats heavy to one,may not he heavy to another!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    Whats heavy to one,may not he heavy to another!!!
    That's the beauty of it All about challenging yourself mentally and physically

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryansm
    That's the beauty of it All about challenging yourself mentally and physically
    Thats exactly why i do rhis bodybuilding thing.....mainly for the mental challenge.The best competition in the world is yourself against yourself!!! FACT!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999 View Post
    Thats exactly why i do rhis bodybuilding thing.....mainly for the mental challenge.The best competition in the world is yourself against yourself!!! FACT!
    I do it because I am incredibly vain.
    Just inject.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jay888999

    Thats exactly why i do rhis bodybuilding thing.....mainly for the mental challenge.The best competition in the world is yourself against yourself!!! FACT!
    Well said...
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy

    I do it because I am incredibly vain.
    I have to attest to this a bit. I do it because you can't. And when you tell me "I couldn't ever do that" It drives me. I can and I will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BLaQz

    Well said...
    TY brotha!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy

    I do it because I am incredibly vain.
    Hey man,to each there own. I am vain as well.To an extent that is. But,i love a challenge and doing anything to make aure i win.I have an ego. Yeah its great to be strong and look good as well
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    Quote Originally Posted by MattPorter View Post
    8% bF and below
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    ECA/CLEN which contributes to diuresis
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    Agreed. Androgens are what competitors use close to contests for this purpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HereToStudy View Post
    I do it because I am incredibly vain.
    Haha ^ this
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    Quote Originally Posted by bdcc View Post
    Out of curiosity, what do you do with natural athletes rather than chemically assisted ones?
    Here a few guys whom I prepped that were 100% not using hormones while I helped them...

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