Modafinil (Provigil)

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by criticalbench

    For a short period of time like finals week.. I could only see it helping you. I do not think you will form a dependance that fast, but be in control of yourself and don't allow it to take control of you.

    Mike
    I have it because of sleep apnea but take it once a month at most,only when my mask falls off


  2. Quote Originally Posted by jamesm11 View Post
    I have it because of sleep apnea but take it once a month at most,only when my mask falls off

    Lol thats why i had it.. well because I failed my sleep study, but there were issues with my getting my cpap.. it took about a week to get the unit.. i didnt want a rental one.. I wanted to purchase a super tiny one on my own with the mask and all I like. They gave me modafinil to get through the week.

    Just last night, i feel asleep without my mask around 1am, woke at 6:50.. pissed off as all hell.. put my mask on, slept til 9.. felt like crap pretty much all day. Its rare i forget it.. but when i do.. life just sucks!
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  3. So I've had a chance to experiment with Nuvigil the past month and I love it! My doctor gave me a 30 tablet prescription at 150mg/tablet when I told him I wanted to give it a try to keep me awake when working late night hours. There are 50, 150, and 250mg tables and I would STRONGLY recommend to start with the lower dosages. My sweet spot is to split a 150mg tablet and take only half at night (75mg) when I need to focus for about 4-6 hours, and then optionally another half (75mg) later at night to extend my wakefulness if needed. It is a very clean mental rush which is much different than caffeine or anything such as CRAZE or Jack3d. The first time I took a dosage I made the mistake of taking 150mg at night which easily lasted for 10 hours, and gave me a headache the next day. Also, this drug is freakin' amazing as a pre-workout aid which will give you constant energy and focus. There is also the added benefit of the feel-good euphoria with the dopamine affects and very little side effects. I've also observed that you will gain tolerance very quickly so I'd definitely recommend taking it only for a few days straight, then take at least 1 or 2 days off. Also take note that the dosage of Nuvigil is equal to twice that of Provigil. I downloaded a coupon from the Nuvigil website to reduce my $5 copay to $0. As with any supplement, use with caution and don't abuse With this particular supplement, I'm easily able to have laser sharp focus for many hours without the jitters or irregular heartbeat from traditional stims. One last thing...a positive side effect is my libido is insane on Nuvigil!

  4. Little bit of an old post reply, but this product has just been exposed to me. I dont think anyone has really commented and how it affects gym.

    Does the product replace or stack with a Pre-sup or fat burner? Can you say use it with clen or albuterol to keep you hitting the rowing machine harder, or stop you yawning in the gym at 5.30 am? I hate cardio and need help with a cut, If i did Clen/Alburol/T3 or a combo will Provigil keep me in the gym longer?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Warnt View Post
    Little bit of an old post reply, but this product has just been exposed to me. I dont think anyone has really commented and how it affects gym.

    Does the product replace or stack with a Pre-sup or fat burner? Can you say use it with clen or albuterol to keep you hitting the rowing machine harder, or stop you yawning in the gym at 5.30 am? I hate cardio and need help with a cut, If i did Clen/Alburol/T3 or a combo will Provigil keep me in the gym longer?
    didnt do anything for me!

  6. It's not a stim effect, or at least for me it wasn't. That said I really only notice the biggest advantages from it when I'm up for 24+hr. and need to power through another 8, makes it feel like you are well rested and ready for another day. Great for finals in school or for double shifts.
    Rejoice not against me, O mine enemy: when I fall, I shall arise; when I sit in darkness, the LORD shall be a light unto me. Micah 7:8

  7. It definitely isn't too effective for a pre-work out since it takes hours for it to kick in, and it's very easy to develop a tolerance to Provigil/Nuvigil. It does help suppress the brain's perception of time/work, so you may perhaps find it easier to perform cardio for extended periods of time. Personally, I only use it during the evening when I need to work a few more hours and need to be absolutely sharp mentally. Or if I'm only surviving on under 4 hours a sleep and I need a boost the next day at work, I'll definitely use Nuvigil to keep me focused. For pre-workout, I've used DS Nutrition's CRAZE for the past few years and it consistently helps me get the job done. I'd strongly recommended it if you need an extra boost in the morning.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by svida View Post
    So I've had a chance to experiment with Nuvigil the past month and I love it! My doctor gave me a 30 tablet prescription at 150mg/tablet when I told him I wanted to give it a try to keep me awake when working late night hours. There are 50, 150, and 250mg tables and I would STRONGLY recommend to start with the lower dosages. My sweet spot is to split a 150mg tablet and take only half at night (75mg) when I need to focus for about 4-6 hours, and then optionally another half (75mg) later at night to extend my wakefulness if needed. It is a very clean mental rush which is much different than caffeine or anything such as CRAZE or Jack3d. The first time I took a dosage I made the mistake of taking 150mg at night which easily lasted for 10 hours, and gave me a headache the next day. Also, this drug is freakin' amazing as a pre-workout aid which will give you constant energy and focus. There is also the added benefit of the feel-good euphoria with the dopamine affects and very little side effects. I've also observed that you will gain tolerance very quickly so I'd definitely recommend taking it only for a few days straight, then take at least 1 or 2 days off. Also take note that the dosage of Nuvigil is equal to twice that of Provigil. I downloaded a coupon from the Nuvigil website to reduce my $5 copay to $0. As with any supplement, use with caution and don't abuse With this particular supplement, I'm easily able to have laser sharp focus for many hours without the jitters or irregular heartbeat from traditional stims. One last thing...a positive side effect is my libido is insane on Nuvigil!
    I did read R form is probably the one with main effect and also the one that acts as well as D2 agonist (lowers prolactin so makes you go for few more rounds in bed) so makes sense to go for armodafinil only version (Nuvigil).

    Am deciding for few days now whether to order online Indian generic version called Waklert - anybody tried this version?

  9. Quote Originally Posted by svida View Post
    It definitely isn't too effective for a pre-work out since it takes hours for it to kick in, and it's very easy to develop a tolerance to Provigil/Nuvigil. It does help suppress the brain's perception of time/work, so you may perhaps find it easier to perform cardio for extended periods of time. Personally, I only use it during the evening when I need to work a few more hours and need to be absolutely sharp mentally. Or if I'm only surviving on under 4 hours a sleep and I need a boost the next day at work, I'll definitely use Nuvigil to keep me focused. For pre-workout, I've used DS Nutrition's CRAZE for the past few years and it consistently helps me get the job done. I'd strongly recommended it if you need an extra boost in the morning.
    What dosing would you recommend so not to hit tolerance?

    I don't know example 3 days on then 2 days off or 5 days on/2 days off cause I'm interested in long term effects of armodafinil on brain functioning or promoting new nerve connections and other potential brain benefits not to just use when need to be awake for few extra hours.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by criticalbench View Post
    For a short period of time like finals week.. I could only see it helping you. I do not think you will form a dependance that fast, but be in control of yourself and don't allow it to take control of you.

    Mike
    Mike makes a really good point. A few years ago, I used it on odd days to improve performance at work and it did. However, fairly quickly I was taking it every day. I never suffered any negative effects, but after a few months my paranoia set in and I just didn't feel comfortable taking something daily that has no long-term safety studies behind it. I take it now, but with any kind of regularity and only when I know I have a very challenging day.
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  11. Haha, it's not meant to a drug or or a pre-workout. If you wanna get cranked or cracked out, smoke crack and stop messing with pharmaceuticals for off label uses. If you seriously need Nuvigil to use as indicated for a label use, then take Nuvigil. Off label use and abuse just makes stuff like this less accessible to those that really need it.

  12. I just started using Adfrafinil. This stuff is great. Just takes a little longer to kick in since it has to undergo conversion to Modafinil. As far as athletic performance goes, I think this may be indicative of its potential to be a great addition to your supplement regimen:

    "Modafinil has been shown to prolong exercise time to exhaustion while performing at 85% of VO2max and also reduces the perception of effort required to maintain this threshold.[96]" From Wiki.

    Cheers!

  13. Quote Originally Posted by TruthWalker View Post
    I just started using Adfrafinil. This stuff is great. Just takes a little longer to kick in since it has to undergo conversion to Modafinil. As far as athletic performance goes, I think this may be indicative of its potential to be a great addition to your supplement regimen:

    "Modafinil has been shown to prolong exercise time to exhaustion while performing at 85% of VO2max and also reduces the perception of effort required to maintain this threshold.[96]" From Wiki.

    Cheers!
    Adrafinil proven to cause severe liver damage so I'd stay away from using it for recreational stuff - at least switch to generic modafinil or armodafinil since once you destroy your liver you'll pretty much destroy your body.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by ahh123 View Post
    Adrafinil proven to cause severe liver damage so I'd stay away from using it for recreational stuff - at least switch to generic modafinil or armodafinil since once you destroy your liver you'll pretty much destroy your body.
    True, it can cause liver damage, but that is not the case for everyone. As long as you are smart about it and have liver values checked every 3 months or so you should be fine. I doubt its any more harmful for your liver than oral PH/DS. However, I will be switching to generic modafinil within the next 3 months regardless, so I think with a measured approach to usage and liver support I will be fine. I myself use it for controlling ADD at work, not for recreational purposes, it just happens that I work out in the middle of the day so its a side benefit.

  15. Used nuvigil for a while. got the 300mg tabs and would cut them in half. To me not a good preworkout more of a mental clarity thing than anything else . after a few days of use I start clenching my teeth and have bad anxiety. Listen to the side affect warning sounds like could be harmful to liver and possibly addictive. I decided I could do better with cafeine and yohimbe or dmaa or ephedrine. the anxiety from nuvigil became unberable.

  16. I would go 2 days on, 1 day off, or 3 on/2 off, etc. I just took about 2 weeks off of using Nuvigil while on vacation, and it seems to reduce my tolerance significantly. I've also find that Nuvigil seems to give me a thermo effect similar to fat burners, and I sweat alot more than usual. Be careful if you are going to use it as a pre-workout supplement. I wouldn't rely on prescription meds for anything related to my fitness routine, especially this type of med. Take note that there is a dopamine release and feel-good sensation about an hour after taking a dose, and it can be addictive mentally though I've never had a problem.

  17. I would not use modafinil for working out. If you really need help staying awake with your shift related sleepiness or narcolepsy, I could see someone taking some upon waking and doing a morning workout. Modafinil gets me pretty juiced but I prefer studying and talking a ****load while taking it.

  18. Modafinil is a stimulant that keeps you awake and puts off the need for sleep. It has legitimate medical uses and is also used as a "lifestyle"

  19. I had some access to clinical samples, it was designed for truck drivers and airplane pilots. Initially designed in aiding with all nighters and sleep deprived, individuals. The feel was quite powerful and long lasting, but did little in terms of focus. Although some like to compare provigil with ADD medications i.e. Adderall, Vyvanse, it felt much less intense than your standard D/L- amphetamine based medications.
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  20. Modafinil - low doses for cardio?


    I like to use Modafinil (I have since stopped using Adrafinil, as I can now reliably get Modafinil) a couple of hours before engaging in exercise due to the fact that it gives me more of a mental edge that tells me I can keep going, and allows me to push beyond my normal limits, especially in cardio. When I am doing long distance running, I can definitely notice an ability to push myself beyond whatever stopping point I mentally set.

    "Modafinil has been shown to prolong exercise time to exhaustion while performing at 85% of VO2max and also reduces the perception of effort required to maintain this threshold." [ Jacobs I, Bell DG (2004). "Effects of acute modafinil ingestion on exercise time to exhaustion". Med Sci Sports Exerc 36 (6): 10781082. doi:10.1249/01.MSS.0000128146.12004.4F. PMID 15179180. ]

  21. If you search more online you could even find them for cheaper. Also dem silky roads sell them also

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Sterling Arch View Post
    If you search more online you could even find them for cheaper. Also dem silky roads sell them also
    Trust me, I get it cheaper than you would believe. Around 70 cents each.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by TruthWalker View Post
    Trust me, I get it cheaper than you would believe. Around 70 cents each.
    Lol have fun converting to bitcoins and risk getting your packages seized by the DEA.
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  24. Quote Originally Posted by mtinsideout View Post
    Lol have fun converting to bitcoins and risk getting your packages seized by the DEA.
    Ummmm...idk if you know how much drugs gets shipped in the mail. Steroids, GH, even some insulin (zzz) that need prescription, heroin, cocaine, meth, crack, weed, ...I think you get the point. Pills rarely get caught. Weed smells and it gets in 100+ degrees in the shipping rooms and airplanes so they'll smell and get caught but the rest go by pretty easily. Not to mention all the packages from ebay that are being shipped from china that look like drug dealing packages and they are just packed with iphone charger cables.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by mtinsideout View Post
    Lol have fun converting to bitcoins and risk getting your packages seized by the DEA.
    I will not give out sources under any circumstances, so please don't bother PMing me....But I will never have to worry about seized packages, or having to convert to bitcoins...and no, i don't use any underground TOR/Silk Road vendors. /END of that part of this discussion...this topic is about the use of modafinil as a supplement to enhance workouts, and I find it very effective. Plus, if you combine it with 10-20mg of Noopept, the mental clarity is quite astounding as well.

  26. Quote Originally Posted by Sterling Arch View Post
    Ummmm...idk if you know how much drugs gets shipped in the mail. Steroids, GH, even some insulin (zzz) that need prescription, heroin, cocaine, meth, crack, weed, ...I think you get the point. Pills rarely get caught. Weed smells and it gets in 100+ degrees in the shipping rooms and airplanes so they'll smell and get caught but the rest go by pretty easily. Not to mention all the packages from ebay that are being shipped from china that look like drug dealing packages and they are just packed with iphone charger cables.
    I'm very much aware but you need to realize all the moda people order online comes from India and the DEA is cracking down on packages coming from there. More and more big pharma is urging action to stop these imports so they can profit.
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  27. Quote Originally Posted by TruthWalker View Post
    I will not give out sources under any circumstances, so please don't bother PMing me....But I will never have to worry about seized packages, or having to convert to bitcoins...and no, i don't use any underground TOR/Silk Road vendors. /END of that part of this discussion...this topic is about the use of modafinil as a supplement to enhance workouts, and I find it very effective. Plus, if you combine it with 10-20mg of Noopept, the mental clarity is quite astounding as well.
    I know what reddit is so I'm good on sources thanks. Also using moda as a workout supp really isn't all that beneficial because it isn't something you can use consistently otherwise you build a tolerance. Maybe if you're an athlete and have a big game or event coming up but thats really about it, the typical gym goer won't see much benefit.
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  28. Quote Originally Posted by mtinsideout View Post
    I'm very much aware but you need to realize all the moda people order online comes from India and the DEA is cracking down on packages coming from there. More and more big pharma is urging action to stop these imports so they can profit.
    You are correct on that but the word wide web is growing and people are shopping online more and more and there is no way to truly crack down on them.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by Colbert View Post
    You are correct on that but the word wide web is growing and people are shopping online more and more and there is no way to truly crack down on them.
    I agree it'll never completely stop but it will really suck a$$ to pay a $100+ for something and have it get seized lol.
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  30. Quote Originally Posted by mtinsideout View Post
    I agree it'll never completely stop but it will really suck a$$ to pay a $100+ for something and have it get seized lol.
    Yeah this is true and you do make some good points. Also, the source comments were not directed at you, they were more of a CMA statement, and to keep other people from messaging me There is always the possibility of a package being seized. I always keep my orders small, under $100. Its still a risk either way.

    Sidenote, I also have ADD, am a grad student, and hate Adderall. I use the modafinil for ADD purposes, the athletic benefits are just a bonus for me.
  

  
 

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