MAN Body Octane-- Fits better for what you described.
I have always thought it was a great endurance product. One of the best I have ever used.
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Are y'all praising octane based off one scoop or
MAN Clout is also great MAN product.
The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES
Based on their profiles, what are you considering using this for? You may at some point, want to consider trying both as everything works differently for one another. I never used body octane, but compete has def helped my endurance in the gym.
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TwoOriginally Posted by pressureSpike
IMO, you can't go wrong with either. I suggest body octane to many people, so I believe that it is a great product that doesn't get enough respect.
The more i study/research Beta Alanine however, the happier and happier I am that we no longer include it in our products(except for the bulk 500g tub we sell).
High-velocity intermittent running: effects of beta-alanine supplementation.
Smith-Ryan AE, Fukuda DH, Stout JR, Kendall KL.
ABSTRACT: The use of β-alanine in sport is widespread. However, the effects across all sport activities are inconclusive. The purpose of this study was to evaluate the effects of β-alanine supplementation on high-intensity running performance and critical velocity (CV) and anaerobic running capacity (ARC). Fifty-recreationally trained men and were randomly assigned, in a double-blind fashion, to a β-alanine (BA, 2 × 800 mg tabs, 3 × daily; CarnoSyn; n=26) or placebo (PL, 2 x 800 mg maltodextrin tabs, 3 × daily; n=24) group. A graded exercise test (GXT) was performed to establish peak velocity (PV). Three high-speed runs to exhaustion were conducted at 110, 100, and 90% of PV, with 15 min of rest between bouts. The distances achieved were plotted over the times-to-exhaustion (TTE). Linear regression was used to determine the slope (CV) and y-intercept (ARC) of these relationships to assess aerobic and anaerobic performances, respectively. There were no significant treatment effects (p>0.05) on CV or ARC, for either men or women. Additionally, no TTE effects were evident for bouts at 90-110PV lasting 1.95-5.06 min. There seems to be no ergogenic effect of β-alanine supplementation on CV, ARC, or high-intensity running lasting approximately 2-5 min, in either men or women in the current study.Effects of beta-alanine supplementation on sprint endurance.
Jagim AR, Wright GA, Brice AG, Doberstein ST.
SourceExercise & Sport Science1, Biology Dept2, UW-La Crosse, La Crosse, WI.
PURPOSE: Recent research has shown that beta-alanine supplementation can increase intramuscular carnosine levels. Carnosine is an intramuscular buffer and has been linked to improvements in performance, specifically during bouts of high intensity exercise that are likely limited by muscle acidosis. Therefore the purpose of this study was to examine the effect of beta-alanine supplementation (BA) on sprint endurance at two different supramaximal intensities.
METHODS: Twenty-one anaerobically trained [rugby players (n=4), wrestlers (n=11) and recreationally strength-trained athletes (n=6)] college men participated in a double blind, placebo controlled study. Subjects performed an incremental VO2 max test and two sprint to exhaustion tests set at 115% and 140% of their VO2 max on a motorized treadmill before (PRE) and after (POST) a 5 week supplementation period. During this time subjects ingested either a BA supplement or placebo (PLA) with meals. Subjects ingested 4g /day of BA or PLA during the first week and 6g/day the following 4 weeks. Capillary blood samples were taken before and after each sprint to determine blood lactate response to the sprint exercise RESULTS No significant group (BA, PLA) x intensity (115%, 140%; p=0.60), group by time (PRE, POST; p=0.72), or group x intensity x time (p=0.74) interactions were observed for time to exhaustion (See Table 1). In addition, similar non-significant observations were made for lactate response to the sprints (group x intensity, p=0.43; group x time, p=0.33, group x intensity x time, p=0.56)
CONCLUSION: From the results of the current study, it was concluded that beta-alanine supplementation did not have a significant effect on sprint endurance at supramaximal intensities.
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33$ for 15 days is my beef with octane and the reason I don't buy it anymoreOriginally Posted by rehj
I dont think they actually are arsed with promoting themselves much.
@ Spike and Butcher : What has your experience been with their line.
I love octane hands down one of the best products I ever used I remember octane was 50 servings for the price y'all selling it for 30 servings now. I used to use octane with orotine with great results.
Just too expensive now especially when u can buy bulk beta cit and lclt for cheap
When Body Octane was 50 servings per tub it was a no brainer. The 30 serving tubs make it a little harder of a choice but it is an amazing product. For performance I'd say look into Clout + SNS Citrulline Malate and/or SNS COP.