- 06-03-2012, 10:05 PM
Judging by your statements you would need 2 scoops of Craze. I guess some people don't respond to it but if you do...Wow. Flashover is another solid choice but 3 scoops would be your need here. MaxIntense is another solid as well as AX SuperSize. 2 scoops of these would be necessary for you. Just choices that I have been using in rotation.Always open light. It’s not what you open with, it’s what you finish with. Louie Simmons
- 06-03-2012, 10:14 PM
- 06-03-2012, 11:33 PM
06-03-2012, 11:57 PM
06-04-2012, 12:28 AM
No, I'd say you are very smart to stay within recommended usage. So many of us probably use more than we should or necessary and with these kinds of supplements less IS more and more is not better!Originally Posted by Geoforce
06-04-2012, 12:29 AM
I feel your pain. I had caffeine withdrawals for the first couple days and now I'm good haha. The only plus to being off stims right now is being on cycle haha.Originally Posted by StackedCop
06-04-2012, 12:30 AM
Cycling OFF stims!!!!! How would I survive!!!! LolOriginally Posted by StackedCop
Washing out is a good thing.....I just can't bring myself to do it! Lol
06-04-2012, 12:31 AM
Three I haven't come across yet! Thanks for the recommendations!Originally Posted by PrepNwa23
06-04-2012, 12:33 AM
Sometimes with newer stims I can start with lower doses but within a week I'm doubling or tripling the dose. Your suggestions sound worthwhile.Originally Posted by AZMIDLYF
06-04-2012, 12:38 AM
06-04-2012, 12:47 AM
The two I've had the best results from are Speed Xtreme Ultra Concentrate from Lecheek Nutrition and Muscle Marinade from Purus Labs.
I can do all this through Him who gives me strength.
06-04-2012, 12:49 AM
Lol....it usually takes me 2 cups of coffee every morning just to open my eyes!Originally Posted by StackedCop
You are doing the right thing to detox. I should follow your example.....I just hate coming up flat during a workout - on or off my cycles!
06-04-2012, 12:51 AM
I tried Muscle Marinade two years ago. I didn't feel much from it but I was probably already on too much junk. Maybe it's time to try it again!?!Originally Posted by CaptHowdy5150
I'm not familiar with the other two but I'll be looking into them. Thanks man!
06-04-2012, 01:02 AM
I'm the same way when it comes to caffeine / stims.. This last month I was using a pre workout twice a day and not I can take 300mg of caffeine and go to sleep. Soooo now I must ween off...
06-04-2012, 01:40 AM
Sounds all too familiar! Caffeine rarely keeps me awake! I think my blood plasma is now 50% caffeine and 50% hematocrit/plasma, lolOriginally Posted by StackedCop
Your hemoval recipe sounds like a winner to me!
06-04-2012, 02:14 AM
In no particular order:
The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES
06-04-2012, 07:48 AM
06-04-2012, 08:46 AM
06-04-2012, 08:57 AM
My humble opinion ...Craze by miles.
06-04-2012, 09:00 AM
06-04-2012, 12:58 PM
06-04-2012, 03:58 PM
Craze is what im crazy about. Stack it with vasotropin plus 40 mgs of 1.3 and your in for quite the rush.
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06-04-2012, 04:59 PM
06-04-2012, 06:38 PM
06-04-2012, 07:24 PM
I LOVE MusclePharm's ASSAULT! Wow! You can stack it with their NO amplifier, HYBRID. Stuff is like having an air intake system! I have tried MANY pre workouts. BSN NO-XPLODE, VPX, Jack3d, White Flood, Amino Energy, the list goes on. ASSAULT has been, hands down, best for me. No crash either. It's safe, even for people with kidney/liver issues. It's not banned by any Athletic Association. Solid stuff! I have all my friends on it now. It's a big product for the NFL and UFC. Definitely worth trying. A full scoop has 5gms Creatine. The serving size is either half scoop or full scoop depending on the intensity of your workout. I also use Scivation Xtend BCAA's powder after for cardio. Gives quick energy. Hope that helps
06-04-2012, 07:43 PM
06-04-2012, 07:55 PM
Anyone try Bullnox. I liked it and noticed strength increases even better than Craze. Had a lower stim tolerance then though. Liked it better than Assault, Jack3d, D1MR, Lit Up, RPM, SP Max, NO Explode and etc. That Monster Pump looks solid.
06-04-2012, 10:02 PM
I also like Bullnox Androrush by Bentancourt you get a lot of stamina on this preworkout but even better
is Bentancourt's D-Stunner I was really STUNNED by this one it came on real smooth and then BAM I was
completely in the zone and it was back day and I was feeling it. I was piling plates on my bar for deadlifts
50lb increases instead of 20 to 30lb increases and everything was feeling good. I walked away from that
workout with some major callouses on my hands and I use versagripps but I was grabbing that so hard even
the gripps didn't protect my hands. LOl What a workout ! That was 2 weeks ago and I haven't used the
D-Stunner since then because I rotate my stims each workout so it might be a little while before I use it
again but I am looking forward to it and hopefully I have the same kind of workout. Try to get a sample of
D-Stunner to try I think you will like it.
06-05-2012, 02:33 AM
06-05-2012, 06:29 AM
Never tried monster pump might have to give it a go.
06-05-2012, 07:16 AM
I have taken quite a few and really like EFX K-Otic. I'm surprised nobody has mentioned it.
06-05-2012, 12:39 PM
06-05-2012, 12:43 PM
06-05-2012, 12:47 PM
06-05-2012, 10:46 PM
The above is my own opinion and does not reflect the opinion of PES
06-05-2012, 11:39 PM
06-06-2012, 12:38 PM
VPX Friction is hands down the best preworkout ive ever had. Ive taken about 75% of the preworkouts out there and this beats them all in every aspect. Great taste and formula. The scoop is small so you dont need to chug 10oz before you lift and be bloated. I pay $30 on tf supps and if u live in chicago pure core nutrition sells it for that too. Screw non stimmed preworkouts. Thatz like drinking decaf coffee. Pretty pointless imo
06-06-2012, 01:39 PM
Iv'e tried c4,muscle marinade,N.O. explode, but the best two I have tried by far is acg3 and Hyde. They both have 1.3 dmaa in them but to me I get the best workout, stamina and focus on either of these two. Oh yeah hello everybody, Im new to this site.
06-06-2012, 03:19 PM
I prefer N.O. Shotgun, it gives you the edge you need for a good workout without the jitters some other supps. give you.
06-07-2012, 02:22 PM
has anyone tried vpx "Bang!", i was looking for redline and found this stuff in it's place. i was a little weary of the claim, "being the only stable liquid creatine." I though that argument was over.
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