Don't these people realize that it wasn't the product....? They're discrediting themselves when they say this...it wasn't the product, it was you! You lost that weight, you gained that mass...if you want to lose weight, it's calories in VS. calories out...that's what is making people lose weight, not a goddamn OTC supplement. The supplement industry is one of the greatest scams ever...99.9% of everything they produce is a total crock of **** people working under the radar of the FDA have made a fortune peddling snake oil to impressionable kids and ignorant daydreamers that will pretty much buy into any old heap of crap.
I'm not condoning steroid use - far from it. That **** is seriously dangerous and will fry your f*cking liver but it's the only thing that actually works. Other than that, protein and creatine you can get from red meat. Eat a f*cking steak, man....that will do far more for you than these bull**** products everyone is trying to sell you. Get your diet in check and change your lifting routine - then you will get to where you want to go. No supplement going to do that for you.