Liver levels high???

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by bean5er

    AST-51
    ALT-72
    You won't be battling cirrhosis anytime soon with those numbers lmao. Your fine bro.. just keep and eye on it. But if you workout and use supplements you should already be getting routine lab work.
    Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals Representative


  2. Quote Originally Posted by criticalbench

    You won't be battling cirrhosis anytime soon with those numbers lmao. Your fine bro.. just keep and eye on it. But if you workout and use supplements you should already be getting routine lab work.
    I'm just asking as to why this is funny but are u implying I'm over reacting? I'm just trying gather info sorry if my question was dumb. When does cirrhosis come into play and what exactly is it.
    Independent
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by bean5er View Post
    I'm just asking as to why this is funny but are u implying I'm over reacting? I'm just trying gather info sorry if my question was dumb. When does cirrhosis come into play and what exactly is it.
    This is not a funny topic what so ever, actually a very serious topic. Regardless though, i asked for your numbers for a reason. I wanted to verify that you are not in immediate danger. What a weight lifter/bodybuilder needs to learn, is that not all lab values are going to be spot on like the average person. We sometimes have values out of range, or on upper/lower limits, but that is normal for us. I did not want you to panic and get alarmed and start taking drastic measures. That is why I said, monitor it.

    Although regardless, consult your perscribing physician for any and all concerns.

    Mike
    Hi-Tech Pharmaceuticals Representative

  4. Quote Originally Posted by criticalbench

    This is not a funny topic what so ever, actually a very serious topic. Regardless though, i asked for your numbers for a reason. I wanted to verify that you are not in immediate danger. What a weight lifter/bodybuilder needs to learn, is that not all lab values are going to be spot on like the average person. We sometimes have values out of range, or on upper/lower limits, but that is normal for us. I did not want you to panic and get alarmed and start taking drastic measures. That is why I said, monitor it.

    Although regardless, consult your perscribing physician for any and all concerns.

    Mike
    Thanks Mike I appreciate the info.
    Independent

  5. Quote Originally Posted by Est1969 View Post
    A strenuous workout can bump up your AST, but should not effect ALT. The effect on AST can last a week from your last heavy workout.

    All kinds of things can boost ALT. hepatitis, aspirin, Tylenol, McDonalds, etc. it's a big list.

    Since both were elevated I am pretty sure the protocol is a second blood test. If levels remain elevated then a Hepatitis screen. If the Hep screen turns up negative you go on to an ultrasound to check for fatty liver disease. I don't know what comes after that.

    What are your levels? What has your doctor advised as step 2?
    I had this happen to me about 20 years ago when I changed jobs and was denied new life insurance because of high liver enzymes. After going thru the Hep screen and ultrasound noted above, a liver biopsy showed that I have a fatty liver. Mind you at the time I was 5'10" and weighed about 155 lbs, so any mention of "fat" was foreign to me. I now get blood work done 2x/yr. Sometimes its slightly elevated, other times within the normal range (although high end of the range). My doctor at Massachusetts General Hospital isn't concerned and neither am I. If it was someting more serious he says the numbers would be multiples of what they are.

    Earlier this year I completed a 8 week cycle of Andromass + AndroBulk and my blood results 4 weeks later were 83 & 61. elevated, but again, only slightly. (my weight is now 195 and a lot of the increase over the years is muscle!)

    So all I can tell you is what my doctor tells me: exercise, watch your diet, don't drink in excess and try not to take tylenol.
    Take care.

    PS: currently just started on a Tren+EPI 2a3a + Methylzine cycle and results after 1 week are better than 8 weeks on AM+AB!
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  6. Why did they do a biopsy? Where they afraid it might have been something else? That's some ignorant, awful B/S denying your health insurance over liver enzymes. Did they reverse their decision after fatty liver was confirmed?



    Quote Originally Posted by BosLAD View Post
    I had this happen to me about 20 years ago when I changed jobs and was denied new life insurance because of high liver enzymes. After going thru the Hep screen and ultrasound noted above, a liver biopsy showed that I have a fatty liver. Mind you at the time I was 5'10" and weighed about 155 lbs, so any mention of "fat" was foreign to me. I now get blood work done 2x/yr. Sometimes its slightly elevated, other times within the normal range (although high end of the range). My doctor at Massachusetts General Hospital isn't concerned and neither am I. If it was someting more serious he says the numbers would be multiples of what they are.

    Earlier this year I completed a 8 week cycle of Andromass + AndroBulk and my blood results 4 weeks later were 83 & 61. elevated, but again, only slightly. (my weight is now 195 and a lot of the increase over the years is muscle!)

    So all I can tell you is what my doctor tells me: exercise, watch your diet, don't drink in excess and try not to take tylenol.
    Take care.

    PS: currently just started on a Tren+EPI 2a3a + Methylzine cycle and results after 1 week are better than 8 weeks on AM+AB!

  7. Quote Originally Posted by Est1969
    Why did they do a biopsy? Where they afraid it might have been something else? That's some ignorant, awful B/S denying your health insurance over liver enzymes. Did they reverse their decision after fatty liver was confirmed?
    They did a biopsy because they couldn't explain why I was still testing high and until I got an explanation, I couldn't get life insurance (at the time I was married, owned a home and had a little baby. I was getting tested every other month back then and always tested high (and I was never even taking supplements and only a social drinker).

    I think it took almost a year until I got life insurance, and only when my doctor wrote a letter explaining my results. it was with a different insurance carrier and at a higher premium. It was pretty pathetic when a greedy insurance company actually returns your insurance premium over high liver enzymes! And it's only term insurance.
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