Any recommendations for pre workout supps? Dont say Jack3D

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Valhalla86 View Post
    Creatine causes water to head to the muscles, NO boosters such as Citrulline/Agmatine/Nitrates cause the vein swelling.
    just wondering, anyone ever tried mesomorph/c-bol/nitrates and something like hemavol?


  2. Quote Originally Posted by tilldeath View Post
    just wondering, anyone ever tried mesomorph/c-bol/nitrates and something like hemavol?
    Personally? I haven't, but it sounds like a helluva combination. Creatine nitrate would be a good one to add for sure.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by PrepNwa23 View Post
    NeuroSurge if you don't want the overly stimmed feeling. It gives you good drive and focus when in the gym.
    ^^^ I agree, 1/2 scoop NeuroSurge is great for focus and clean smooth energy, 1 scoop though and im bouncing off the walls

  4. Quote Originally Posted by DreamBig
    The super pump 250 was good. The maxx sucked, I like c-4 good energy and pump, I'm going to try assault next. In about 2wks I'll start assault.
    The max did suck, I felt it maybe the first day, then after that I didn't feel a thing

  5. I have to say Muscle Marinade for insane focus. Maniac will give u awesome pumps.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by murk01
    I have to say Muscle Marinade for insane focus. Maniac will give u awesome pumps. I can't fuk with jaked or no explode they give me headaches and kill My routine.
    ...... ...

  7. I've been stacking Hemavol with Supersize - 10.00 bucks at nutraplanet ! Supersize comes at you in a different way then the usual 1,3 at least that's what they say. It actually works really good .
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    this always get me mad pumped up...
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by StangBanger View Post
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    this always get me mad pumped up...
    Hahahaha I'll laugh if he doesnt know what that is and asks if it is an oxygen valve or some **** like that!! hahahahaha

  10. Quote Originally Posted by gettn big View Post
    what is the stuff called you can take that makes your veins swell, like water goes to your muscles? anyone heard of this?
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    Get it ! It works stack it with hemavol and you'll get pumps that are insane. I can't even button my shirt leaving the gym .
    "Strive to seize the initiative in all things"

  11. Supersize is legit....
    It does it different than the normal 1,3.... Maybe they use a small dose not sure.
    I'm going to look into karbolic myself & see what that's all about.
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  12. Just used WYKED for the first time today. Good clean energy and focus. I've tried the majority of pre's and it was one of my favorites. It probably wont be around too much longer though.
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  13. Craze is amazing. I've been using it for months 3x per week. The last dose has been as smooth as the first.

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    Craze is the best pwo I've ever tried. It gives you absolutely insane focus.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by BigOil26 View Post
    I've tried quite a few, eventually they don't work on me anymore. Looking for something that makes me feel as if my skin is coming apart.
    SNS Focus XT+ SNS Cit-Mal is a great option. Pumps are insane, and the cost is even crazier.

    If you want some extra stims, I suggest picking up some of our Adrena-G (1,3) while our supplies last.

    I personally enjoy 1 scoop FXT+2.5 scoops SNS Cit-Mal (8g)+ 1 cap Adrena-G (25mg 1,3). The pumps are long lasting, the endurance is amazing, and the best part is the long lasting focus that I have the entire workout.

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  15. Quote Originally Posted by tilldeath View Post
    just wondering, anyone ever tried mesomorph/c-bol/nitrates and something like hemavol?
    I've stack creatine nitrates with hemavol. Pumps and strength were insane! I'm a huge creatine nitrate fan


  16. I've been experimenting with a combination that, to me, is even more potent than Hemavol.

    2 servings of SNS Arginine E2 Matrix (primarily for the norvaline and orthinine content, not the arginine) + 4 caps SNS Agmatine + 3 scoops SNS Citrulline Malate yields some incredible pumps.

    If you need that extra focus and a gentle stimulatory kick, throwing in a scoop of Focus XT is an excellent idea as well!

  17. Quote Originally Posted by roblasane View Post
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    Get it ! It works stack it with hemavol and you'll get pumps that are insane. I can't even button my shirt leaving the gym .
    food + blood pumps.. you can not get any better IMO. I do hemavol + waxy maize and swell up like a mofo!!
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  18. No-explode works for me


    But I gotta say there isn't much wrong with Jack3d! Just sayin.

  19. vasotropin actually is not half bad... if you can time it with a good carb meal 1 hour plus before workouts. Seems to work well the times I workout late, 1-2 hours after a regular family dinner.. When stims won`t do jack due to too much food in the system..
    Took 4 pills along with a pasta dish about 60-70 minutes before working out yesterday... pumps and energy was good, not extreme, but vascularity was insane...
    It also does wonders with a certain other kinda pump:-)

    I bought 3 boxes of craze, I love it, but I`m one of the guys that it totally kills my libido....not the lust, but while I usually can get it quickly up with little stimulation, after training with craze, I can only get semihard, and it feels totally numb..alot worse than 1.3 dim... can`t understand why... libido numbness issue stays atleast 8-10 hours... while 1.3 dim issue maybe lasted me 2-3 hours after a workout, and not really a big problem.. just took a bit longer to get going at full speed. .

    Vasotropin kinda counters it, but taking craze with vasotropin kinda nullifes the effects... kinda inverts my veins instead.. weird stuff.

    Never tried hemavol, but tried yok3d, which was even more hit/miss than vasotropin..
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  21. Maximize Intense (nutra 20 duckets)
    Ds Craze
    Maniac with Motivate
    Muscle Marinade with D-pol
    Wyked by Taurus (get it fast)
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by Airborne42
    Maximize Intense (nutra 20 duckets)
    Ds Craze
    Maniac with Motivate
    Muscle Marinade with D-pol
    Wyked by Taurus (get it fast)

    what he said.

    Hardcore Purus Labs {Rep}
    Lift the fücking weight from the floor, or leave it on the ground. The thoughts are supposed to be daunting. The pain is meant to be tormenting.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Airborne42 View Post
    Maximize Intense (nutra 20 duckets)
    Ds Craze
    Maniac with Motivate
    Muscle Marinade with D-pol
    Wyked by Taurus (get it fast)
    Half scoop of each! Ftw


  24. = meth
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  25. Quote Originally Posted by criticalbench View Post
    food + blood pumps.. you can not get any better IMO. I do hemavol + waxy maize and swell up like a mofo!!
    I agree with this - eating a meal high in carbohydrate content and hydrating well before workouts, along with doing high volume, is another great way to help stimulate a pump.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aaronbaron View Post
    But I gotta say there isn't much wrong with Jack3d! Just sayin.
    Are you being serious?

    Jack3d is essentially a ****tail of caffeine and 1,3 DMAA. 45 servings for ~$26. I think that I will buy SNS Caffeine (501 tabs) for $15, and SNS Adrena-G (1,3 DMAA - get it while the getting's good!) and save my money.
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