Natural Testosterone booster: Tongkat Ali (the real stuff)
- 03-08-2012, 09:31 PM
Natural Testosterone booster: Tongkat Ali (the real stuff)
I ordered Tongkat Ali extract from Indonesia a couple of times, and though I am a huge skeptic, I feel its effect, which includes elevated mood (could be placebo), better workouts (could be placebo), but what cannot be placebo is that my balls double in size and my penis is bigger than usual (like a half chub all day). I was taking 2000mg/day of 1:50 extract.
Has anyone tried this and can compare to other T boosters? Any blood tests regarding this or other T boosters?
- 03-08-2012, 09:37 PM
The stuff has been proven to raise testosterone levels with blood tests and studies. All you have to do is google to find them. Could have done without the comments on your dong and balls though.
03-08-2012, 10:14 PM
It was for scientific purposes. As far as natural T boosters go, is there any sort of ranking as to what works best? What would be the top 3? In addition to Tongkat Ali, I tried products like Triazole, Activate xtreme, etc. It's hard to tell witout blood tests, but I'd put tongkat ali at #1 by far, followed maybe by triazole.
03-08-2012, 10:32 PM
I had been taking 200:1 Tongkat Ali doses (600mg, 2x per day).
I definitely experienced a boost in libido and a feeling of well-being. I also got this sensation that my sack was full and heavy. Never noticed any increase in size tho. No blood work to back up the T count.
Never noticed any significant increase of performance in the gym, however. Maybe just a tiny bit, but negligible. But I continued to take the TKA for the boost in libido.
Then I started a cycle of Intimidate and Erase Pro, and my libido surged to the point of distraction. It was ridiculous. I stopped taking all other libido sups (Horny Goat Weed, TKA, Rhodiola, Catauba Bark, in rotation). Now my brain actually has a few other thoughts outside of sex.
Interested in hearing other TKA experiences.
03-08-2012, 10:54 PM
03-08-2012, 11:04 PM
I buy mine from a seller on Ebay. He resells 200:1 from US SUMATRA PASAK BUMI. The sellers name is "musemuse"
03-08-2012, 11:09 PM
03-08-2012, 11:44 PM
I get it straight from the source, tongkatali.org. It's pretty expensive and I damn well intend on doing a blood test on it so I know what I'm spending money on.
Note: there is evidence that the 200:1 is not much better than the 50:1 extract. Google it. In other words it's definitely not 4 times better. You're better off on a high dose of 50:1.
03-08-2012, 11:56 PM
Wow that is unreasonably expensive. $200+ for a run o.0
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03-09-2012, 03:26 PM
03-09-2012, 03:36 PM
I have done a bit of research on tkali in the past,
there are only say 2 100% genuine suppliers of tkali and the supplier is use is ACTUALLY THE WORLDS MOST GENUINE NUMBER 1 SUPPLIER THATS A FACT, you have the right stuff there,
i believe the 200:1 extract is stronger as it uses more of the root than the 50:1 extract
IMO the best strongest natural tbooster is tkali, it reduces shbg by approx 1/3 if im correct thus increasing free t, and doesnt cause a negative feedback loop with the pituritary gland like other tboosters and steroids do/can, users report feelings continuing after the cycle of tkali has finished.
The results you have experienced are typical of legit tkali, i think they would increase with a stronger extract,
I am keen to try this as a tbooster in the 200:1 extract, as from what i believe tkali WORKS (given its from the legit source) but i would be prepared for estrogen to shoot up as tkali can boost t beyond natural levels.
You should have done a log of your effects with it along with your training routine and noted your effects
03-09-2012, 04:44 PM
03-10-2012, 11:26 AM
03-10-2012, 11:37 AM
I actually like that ingredient too but it is hard to find good extracts of it as we have looked into it in the past.
Check out Formula X though, I really think you would like that one and it is by far my favorite Athletix product and our line is pretty much completely geared towards HPTA (until we come out with our fat loss product )
03-10-2012, 11:48 AM
Tongkatali.org worlds number 1 genuine supplier
Have you ever used tkali as a tbooster?
99% of products as you say dont contain the proper stuff most are fakes and copys full of fillers, wont go wrong with the above mentioned source although expensive but apparantly worth the cash
Whats the story of the fat loss product by athletix or is it a long way off?
03-10-2012, 06:30 PM
03-10-2012, 07:18 PM
Nutraplanet used to sell something called the horney mac stack which was Maca, HGW, and LJ100. It sold for about $30. Was a great deal. Too bad they took it away.
03-11-2012, 06:05 AM
miniarnold seems pretty knowledgeable about tongkat.
Firsthand I can say that it increases sex drive, penis and balls increase in size (google a site called testingtongkatali), but it does not give you significant increases in strength, at least not right away, and not in a major way. It is also reported that free T was increased 3x. I have not done blood test so I cannot verify. If we are to believe the info at that site, the increase in T seems reasonable, ie, you can go from 500 to 1000 or so. I would be perfectly happy with this, especially that there are no side effects.
The best thing we can do as a community is test this using before and after blood tests. I will definitely do this personally and report the results. Without this, all this talk is more or less hot air.
Also, I am surprised how little tongkat is present in some supplements. If you're going to try tongkat, I personally feel an effect at 2000mg/day. I don't know what you get at 200mg if anything at all. It costs me about $150 for a 40 day supply at 2000mg/day. tongkatali.org seems to have authorized resellers now that can sell locally much cheaper.
I sent them money via western union last time because it saves me $20 or so. They could have screwed me, but I did receive the order just like when I paid with a credit card.
I can't find the article where they talked about the 1:50 vs 1:200 extracts. But the reason I order the 1:50 is that you get more bang for your buck. The 1:200 is not 4x better, not even 2x better. I strongly recommend you talk to them before getting the 1:200.
So all anecdotal evidence aside, if blood tests prove this stuff is worth the money, I will make it one of my staples.
03-11-2012, 05:24 PM
You have read some of the same info as i have from testing tongkat ali, i think supp companys dont use it to much as its expensive for the proper stuff, no doubts your 1:50 extract is good enough but i would say the 1:200 extract is lets say more potent, i say this as this is the extract strength i can get from the uk www.tongkatfitness.com (this site has apparant blood work results etc) which comes directly from tongkat.org, i could get the 1:50 extract as you but would have to get over seas shipping, so ill most likely try the 1:200 extract and if its that strong i may be able to use less and make it last longer
I Havent used tkali yet but i will be doing at some point without a doubt.
You should if poss get bloods b4 and after, and also log your experience with it, is this your first time using it, how long have you been on it now, how are you cycling it?
03-11-2012, 05:25 PM
03-11-2012, 05:26 PM
03-12-2012, 12:17 AM
I will be running some 100:1 root extract TKA from Indonesia from a co. from FL. called Barlowes
Herbals so I will post back after my cycle with my review of it. When you go to Tongkatali.org
they show the retailers here in the states who sell their TKA at a much lower price than they do for
instance you get the 200:1 at Premium Tongkat Cheap for $59.99 and you can get the 50:1
at New Life Alternatives at $34 a jar or $30 a jar if you buy 3 or more. I will be trying the 50:1
in the future but first I will see how good the 100:1 root extract at 500mg per capsule works out.
There is also another co. in Canada called Root of The Matter and they are selling a TKA 100:1
100% water extract from Indonesia at 50mg capsules for $30 a jar or $28 a jar if you buy 3 and another
20% off on top of that so it works out for 3 jars and shipping to only $75 but I have search the internet
so see if anyone posted any reviews on this TKA but I found nothing. If anyone has any experience with
any of these brands of TKA please feel free to share I would love to find out more info.
03-12-2012, 03:34 AM
Don't want to high jack the thread but ever since i heard about it and did some research, i was thinking about stacking it with an A.I, anybody done similar stack?
03-12-2012, 06:14 AM
I will try another cycle in a month.
03-12-2012, 09:47 AM
03-12-2012, 09:48 AM
03-12-2012, 09:49 AM
03-12-2012, 11:10 AM
If anyone is going to run tests and post bloods, please do it with tka only the first time. If you run more than one thing, no way to know which product caused what effect.
03-12-2012, 11:17 AM
I'm running tongkat 1:200 with erase as we speak! Only been 6 days in so haven't felt nothing yet, will let you know by the end of this cycle how my results go!
03-12-2012, 12:32 PM
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