Supplement List(need help!!!)

[saderboy80]

SUPPLEMENTS IN MY OPINION SHOULD COME THIRD AFTER DIET AND LIFTING!!!


General Health
Multi-vitamin- generalhealth
FishOil- heart health, anti-inflammatory
Glucosamine& Chondroitin- joint health
Cissus Quadrangularis- joint health
Iron- red blood cell formation
Melatonin- sleep aid, controls my insomnia
Note: I have arthitis in both knees and right shoulder, also have had 2 surgeries on my right shoulder in the last 2yrs.


Workout Staples
Pre-workout- energy, pumps, endurance
BCAA- energy, muscle repair
Glutamine- muscle repair
Creatine- increase ATP
Protein- muscle repair
WaxyMaize- shuttles nutrients, energy


The Good Stuff(self-explanatory)
HGH Booster- never taken, any recommendations?
InsulinMimicker-
CortisolSuppressor- never taken any recommendations?
Estrogen Suppressor-
Testosterone Booster-
Prohormones-
Note: I did not include SERM's or cycle support supps.

Any comments are welcome especially regarding different supplement purpose, adding supps, subtracting supps, brands, dosing, timing.
Try to back up your comments with some science or broscience.
Will not be taking anything to strong for a while due to injuries. Just looking for a complete list of quality supplements.

 

[JudgementDay]

General Health
Multi-vitamin- MVP
FishOil- Nutrasea
Glucosamine& Chondroitin- Any brand
Cissus Quadrangularis- SuperCissus
Iron- In my multi
Melatonin- I use Carboxy instead
Note: I have arthitis in both knees and right shoulder, also have had 2 surgeries on my right shoulder in the last 2yrs.


Workout Staples
Pre-workout- I like Jack3d and Flashover
BCAA- I like bulk, Xtend, RPGIBCAA, RecoverPRO
Glutamine- I get it from Xtend or RPGIBCAA
Creatine- MCC
Protein- Any whey or Mutant Mass
WaxyMaize- Mutant Mass

The Good Stuff(self-explanatory)
HGH Booster- HGHpro, HGHUP, Powerfull or Carboxy
InsulinMimicker- Glycobol (Recompadrol has the best reviews tho)
CortisolSuppressor- ErasePro or Erase
Estrogen Suppressor- ErasePro or Erase
Testosterone Booster- Formula-X, Division 1, TitaniumXL, Erasepro....this stack can't be beat imo.
Prohormones- AndrohardLV was good, i'm gonna try V3 soon. Epistane by IBE has sick reviews and feedback.


I'm using a lot of whats on your list, this is the stuff I'm using in these categories.

 

[saderboy80]

Thanks for the input it is very helpfull. Any supps you think are unnecessary? OR any categories im missing on my list??

 

[R1balla]

The Good Stuff(self-explanatory)
HGH Booster- never taken, any recommendations? - IGF 2 if you are bulking, HGHup if cutting. take for at least 2 months.
InsulinMimicker- not needed IMO
CortisolSuppressor- never taken any recommendations? Free Test, Erase
Estrogen Suppressor- Free Test, Erase
Testosterone Booster- DAA
Prohormones- Androseries are the safest. not much on the market right now that are legal
Note: I did not include SERM's or cycle support supps.

Any comments are welcome especially regarding different supplement purpose, adding supps, subtracting supps, brands, dosing, timing.
Try to back up your comments with some science or broscience.
Will not be taking anything to strong for a while due to injuries. Just looking for a complete list of quality supplements.

i made suggestions ^^^^^

 

[R1balla]

Pre-workout- Lit Up, SuperPump, Hemavol for non stim
BCAA- bulk, Xtend, RecoverPRO
Glutamine-
Creatine- Creapure
Protein- 100% whey
WaxyMaize-

 

[JudgementDay]

Thanks for the input it is very helpfull. Any supps you think are unnecessary? OR any categories im missing on my list??

Looks pretty damn good to me!

 

[JoeHT]

Looks good. I would add Beta-Alanine and DAA.

 

[saderboy80]

Pre-workout- Lit Up, SuperPump, Hemavol for non stim
BCAA- bulk, Xtend, RecoverPRO
Glutamine-
Creatine- Creapure
Protein- 100% whey
WaxyMaize-

Possible to combine Hemavol with another pre-workout that contains stims? Or is that overkill?

 

[BPjohn123]

Possible to combine Hemavol with another pre-workout that contains stims? Or is that overkill?

Not needed imo

 

[saderboy80]

Looks good. I would add Beta-Alanine and DAA.

Not a big fan of large doses of Beta-Alanine. All the "tingly" effect goes straight to my face. Reminds me to much of an allergic reaction I had a couple years back.

But the DAA is supposed to increase test production quite a bit right? Any advice on dosing and other advantages it would have?

 

[saderboy80]

Not needed imo

Any suggestions to get a bigger pump? Other then a big bicep day HA

 

[BPjohn123]

Any suggestions to get a bigger pump? Other then a big bicep day HA

Are you already taking hemavol?

 

[saderboy80]

No I take Lean Max Revolution as a pre-workout. Bottles almost gone looking to switch it up

 

[BPjohn123]

No I take Lean Max Revolution as a pre-workout. Bottles almost gone looking to switch it up

Ok, from the reviews you should get plenty pump from hemavol, looking to try it soon myself.

 

[saderboy80]

Ill look into it, I like my stims to so that could be a factor.


Anyone else advise taking DAA?

 

[BPjohn123]

Ill look into it, I like my stims to so that could be a factor.


Anyone else advise taking DAA?

For sure, bulk daa, Taurus daa hcg, sns capped, formula x....all solid.

 

[JudgementDay]

Possible to combine Hemavol with another pre-workout that contains stims? Or is that overkill?

If you add a pre-workout with it MaximizeV2 seems to be the perfect fit.

Ill look into it, I like my stims to so that could be a factor.


Anyone else advise taking DAA?

DAA is where it's at for test boosting, look into Formula-X, you get a full serving of DAA and LCLT. Formula-X is also great taken Intra-workout, it contains NAT that will boost aggression, kinda like a non-stim energy. Plus 5g of 8:1:1 BCAA's. Can't beat the formula for the price, now I love DAA, but I love LCLT even more.. it really increases the overall effects of test boosting when stacked with other test boosting ingredients, such as DAA.

 

[BigRigg]

For insulin I like slin sane

 

[saderboy80]

I love recompradrol but seems like its dissapeared!

 

[saderboy80]

Dosing for BCAA and GLutamine?

 

[CJ_Xfit89]

Dosing for BCAA and GLutamine?

Get formula x. Has DAA in it as well as BCAAs. Add 5g glutamine in it
If training fasted.glutamine can be converted to glucose as a fuel source

 

[packers6211]

Very solid list and yeah JD looks a lot like yours and mine when I'm in lifting. I have been using the Athletix stack right before I had suregery and I found it to help a lot with strength and I added Erase in as we hadn't came out with the new anti at the time. Sick stack!

 

[saderboy80]

Thanks for all the help. Im still recovering from my second surgery, but want to have all my bases covered for when Im back at full strength. Thinking about slowing introducing each of this into my supplement schedule. As I think all at once might give me to a strength boost for my healing shoulder. Any opinions here?

I havent lifted since November just working on some light cardio and rehab, but it will be May 17th before Im released to lift heavy.

 

[hvactech]

Dosing for BCAA and GLutamine?

depends how you are using it....

 

[hvactech]

im currently running m1db and formx with t911.....also use assault, MP creatine, purple wraath....

 

[CDMMA]

Here are my recommendations:

Multi: Ortho Core, Orange Triad, MVP/ZMK, or Life Force
Fish oil: OxiMega
Protein: XF UP 2.0, Protean, Trutein, or Myofusion
Creatine:
- Creatine mono: AllMax
- Designer creatines: Trinitine, Orotine, or SNS MCC
- Designer creatines w/ extras: Clout, Cre-02, Green Bulge/Mag, or C-bol
Beta alanine:
- Caps: Carnage
- Powder: NOW
Pre-workout:
- Hi-Lo stims: RagNOrok-Ultra, PSU*, Body Octane GD, Fierce, C4, White Flood, or Vengeance*
- Stim-free: Ultima, Clout, RagNOrok-Ultra, Pump-bol, Body Octane HV, Hemavol, or White Blood

The underlined contain creatine, and the italicized contain beta alanine. The asterisks mark undisclosed amounts.

Peri-workout: Core ABC, Purple Wraath, Xtend, Atomic 7, Purple Psyko, IntrAbolic, IBCAA RPG, or Strive
Post-workout: Protocol
Fat-burners:
- Stimmed: EC stack
- Stim-free: Lean Xtreme
Test-boosters: BioForge v3, or DAA
Aromatase-inhibitor: Triazole, or Erase
GDA: Slin-Sane
Joint support: Cissus (+ Orange Triad), or Elasti-Flex

Possible to combine Hemavol with another pre-workout that contains stims? Or is that overkill?

Very possible, and not overkill whatsoever.

Not a big fan of large doses of Beta-Alanine. All the "tingly" effect goes straight to my face. Reminds me to much of an allergic reaction I had a couple years back.

But the DAA is supposed to increase test production quite a bit right? Any advice on dosing and other advantages it would have?

Dose the beta alanine multiple times a day to reduce the paresthesia.

And yes, it does raise testosterone significantly.

Any suggestions to get a bigger pump? Other then a big bicep day HA

Hemavol, agmatine, nitrates, citrulline, and/or White Blood 2.

 

[John Smeton]

SUPPLEMENTS IN MY OPINION SHOULD COME THIRD AFTER DIET AND LIFTING!!!


General Health
Multi-vitamin- generalhealth
FishOil- heart health, anti-inflammatory
Glucosamine& Chondroitin- joint health
Cissus Quadrangularis- joint health
Iron- red blood cell formation
Melatonin- sleep aid, controls my insomnia
Note: I have arthitis in both knees and right shoulder, also have had 2 surgeries on my right shoulder in the last 2yrs.


Workout Staples
Pre-workout- energy, pumps, endurance Maniac
BCAA- energy, muscle repair Recoverpro
Glutamine- muscle repair MST glutamine (10 grams a day when cutting) other times when you feel overtrained
Creatine- increase ATP Nutraplanet
Protein- muscle repair This is individual
WaxyMaize- shuttles nutrients, energy


The Good Stuff(self-explanatory)
HGH Booster- never taken, any recommendations? Hghpro
InsulinMimicker- Glycobol
CortisolSuppressor- never taken any recommendations? 7 keto dhea or some of pat arnolds 7 spray I think its called
Estrogen Suppressor- 6-oxo
Testosterone Booster- Daa
Prohormones-
Note: I did not include SERM's or cycle support supps.

Any comments are welcome especially regarding different supplement purpose, adding supps, subtracting supps, brands, dosing, timing.
Try to back up your comments with some science or broscience.
Will not be taking anything to strong for a while due to injuries. Just looking for a complete list of quality supplements.

my answers

 

[saderboy80]

depends how you are using it....

Most likely as an aid to muscle repair, and reduce soreness. For aided nutrients when cutting.

 

[saderboy80]

Thinking about Erase to cover cortisol and estrogen suppression. DAA for test booster.

But still unsure I need the BCAA and Glutamine, if i have a good diet, and intake enough protein. Any input?

 

[John Smeton]

Thinking about Erase to cover cortisol and estrogen suppression. DAA for test booster.

But still unsure I need the BCAA and Glutamine, if i have a good diet, and intake enough protein. Any input?

bcaas are not needed to build muscle, no. if you are taking in protein whether from whole food or shakes every 2-3 hoursa youll grow. Bcaa;s do help a ton on top of a good diet.

glutamine to me is=necceasly when I felt worn down, immune system down, and when Im pre contest or cutting somewhat agressively.

 

[saderboy80]

bcaas are not needed to build muscle, no. if you are taking in protein whether from whole food or shakes every 2-3 hoursa youll grow. Bcaa;s do help a ton on top of a good diet.

glutamine to me is=necceasly when I felt worn down, immune system down, and when Im pre contest or cutting somewhat agressively.

Sounds good ill implement some doses of glutamine post workout. Thinking 5g daily should be a good trial dosage and ill adjust from there

Also my profile says I weigh 185lbs. But due to surgery i now weigh 152lbs.......do supplement doses need to be lowered to account for this 30lbs weight loss? It was lost in 2.5 months and Id say most is muscle, as my body fat hasnt changed much.