I feel this needs to be posted - Me, My Brain, and ALCAR
03-24-2013 02:45 PM
Adding Choline would be a nice addition. You would have to try it out first to know how you react to the combo. But if it were me, I'd get some CDP-Choline and try it out.
03-24-2013 06:19 PM
Thank you for the replies! I will take 1g for the next few days and see if the side effects persist, and if I need to get choline I will. Anyone know where a good place to buy in Canada? There's nothing on bb.com and shipping on Nutraplanet is quite expensive.
04-01-2013 12:05 PM
Coop, from your quote 'If you are using Na-R-Ala as a general antioxidant to run concurrently with ALCAR, a lower dose can suffice (~150mg).'
From this, do you mean take Na-R-Ala 2-3 times a day at 150mg (and not with ALCAR) or would once suffice.
Either way, I would prefer (out of convenience) to take Na-R-Ala once a day - would it work well enough like this?
And, I am thinking of putting Na-R-ala with my one of my BCAA, Agmatine, Citrulline, Cissus, Alcar, Choline drinks (less the ALCAR when Na-R-Ala is used). Does this sound effective and convenient?
Thanks always for your opinion...
04-07-2013 05:10 AM
For those using Enhanced, ALCAR should go along very nicely with it.
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04-07-2013 05:43 AM
I love ALCAR its going to be a staple supplement for me, taking 1.5g twice daily with 1.5g choline 2x daily, I'm definately sharper, short term memory is much higher, and my thinking feels more liquid. I find it preferable to piracetam I was taking. I just recently started getting back into supplements, bulk powders have really changed the game as far as being able to afford a lot of things at once..
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04-07-2013 04:42 PM
I thought I would need choline because I had headaches during the first week, but turns out I just had a cold
Headaches have completely disappeared and I am dosing 2g/day, 1g in the morning 1g at night. So far (2.5 weeks) I have noticed increased sharpness (feels like I can analyze things with a clear mind, sort of like Samus in the Metroid Prime series when she's using the visor scanning thing), and I've noticed some memorization enhancement but I'm not so sure yet. I literally learned the last two and a half weeks of my organic chem class in 3 hours and got 93% on my quiz - I wonder if ALCAR had anything to do with that or if it's simply a placebo.
I'm definitely going to keep using it and it should only get better with time if I'm correct.
04-13-2013 08:16 PM
I've been using ALCAR for years and have never cycled it. This is the first thread I've heard about cycling. I workout in the morning and have been taking 1500 mg of ALCAR. I don't take it with ALA often because I tend to battle hypoglycemic symptoms. It took me months to figure this out. I stopped the ALA and the symptoms went away.
Great info on this thread. I'm finally through all 19 pages.
1. What are the dangers of not cycling ALCAR. I've never taken a break in over 5 years. I still feel awake and energized with my regular 1500 mg dosage. I recently added choline citrate and tyrosine to the morning mix so that could that be covering a tolerance?
2. What are the downsides of taking ALCAR without ALA?
3. Is there a substitute I could use if I cycle off? I've read DMAE on other boards. If do use DMAE, I'd cut the choline citrate correct?
04-14-2013 01:39 AM
Anyone know if females need to dose this any differently from males? A friend is interested.
04-14-2013 07:02 PM
I'm a female and dose at 1500mg in the morning. I don't seem to need more that that for the whole day. I've never read anything online about females dosing differently than males.
06-02-2013 02:15 PM
Great info in this thread.
After reading all 19 pages in summary stack to use daily would be the following:
dosing once in the morning and once mid day OR 30min before workout as a single dose
- 150mg Na-R-Ala around 30min before ALCAR,
- 1-2g ALCAR but those with potential balding go with lower dose cause it can cause hair loss or shedding,
- choline source either 2g of choline citrate or 500mg of CDP Choline (preferred choice) or Alpha GPC
Did I get the basic info in this thread or correct me if not?
06-02-2013 03:47 PM
Anyone getting vivid nightmares regularly that wake you up in the middle of the night? This only happened when I upped the dose from 1.5g daily to 2g.
06-02-2013 03:56 PM
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06-02-2013 08:04 PM
If the Na-R-Ala or ALCAR is capped, you can dose together.
Originally Posted by ahh123
06-02-2013 09:13 PM
Very nice summary, and yep, as kbayne said, you're fine dosing the Na-RLA and ALCAR together as long as you don't combine two bulk powders in water or something
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06-03-2013 09:46 AM
I just added in phenyl piracetam and I am completely blown away by this stuff. As I've posting many times in the past, Aniracetam is the most amazing noot available, IMO, and really changed my life. Phenyl piracetam could be a very close second in a completely different way. The heightened state of awareness and non stimulating energy is unlike anything I have ever experienced. I find my self doing things I would normally put off and not even really realizing I am completing it, until I stop and realize I have just had productivity in the last hour that would usually take 2-3. One thing that caught me slightly off guard was the increased visual sense. About an hour after taking it, it almost feels like a very mild hallucinogen in that things are so crisp and outlined that it almost appears animated. I was walking the dog just smiling because everything was so vivid and bright. Definitely a very interesting side.
06-03-2013 10:56 AM
What was your dose?
Originally Posted by kisaj
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06-03-2013 11:04 AM
I use the little scooper that was included and take it sublingual in an 80-100mg dose approximately 5-6 hours apart. I found that it starts coming on in about 20-25 min and there is an initial spike in energy for about an hour or two and then it slightly subsides and rides for 3-4 more hours before tapering off.
I haven't had a need to go over this amount and based on what I researched, it can cause anxiety and a slight manic feeling in high (200mg+) doses.
06-03-2013 11:29 AM
I'm very interested in aniracetam despite many reporting feeling less than piracetam but those that feel it can't praise it's anxiolitic effect.
Originally Posted by kisaj
What brand of aniracetam are you using, what dose, how do you cycle it...throw in any other beneficial info?
06-03-2013 11:48 AM
There is no comparison between piracetam and aniracetam. They act completely different and impossible to compare because of the effects they have. Piracetam is sedating and for those that enjoy the effects, is good for studying and focus. For me, it just makes me want to go to sleep for hours. Aniracetam is different in that it is ideal for social settings because it allows thoughts to flow and it makes the ability to speak in public (speeches and conferences are ideal) very easy. It actually encourages you to want to be in front of people and talk. I don't think that Aniracetam increases the ability to study or learn, but rather it takes what you already know and puts it in order, organizes, and puts words at the tip of your tongue.
I don't know if we are supposed to mention brands here, so I may not. 750mg twice a day with a choline source is ideal. Also, you want to eat a fat with it. Drink a glass of milk or something to help the effects. Keep in mind that they are currently trying to control Aniracetam and it is getting harder to find, so I'd say to stock up. My doc seems to believe that they will be making it only available by prescription in the future, so we'll see.
06-03-2013 12:58 PM
Can you tell me any reference for the hair loss part? As far as I know ALCAR has no relation to DHT levels, and the genetically inherited increased sensitivity of hair follices to DHT is one of the main causes of androgenetic alopecia. So, I wonder how it should promote hair loss in genetically prone men.
Originally Posted by ahh123
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