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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I still drink occasionally, and when I drink, it's usually quite a bit. During the following days, or even the entire following week, I feel foggier. ALCAR seems to reverse these effects if taken at 2g prior to drinking as I have. This makes sense scientifically as well, as ALCAR is demonstrated to help prevent alcohol-induced neurodegeneration.
    I tried 2g before drinking and did notice not being foggy the next day.

    What else do you think would be good to supplement that might get washed out of your body after a couple days of binge drinking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryank View Post

    Have you had luck with Biotin? I like ALCAR, but I do notice a bit more shedding with 1-1.5g a day range. I am definitely genetically predisposed to MPB, but I would like to keep the hair loss to a minimum.
    I've never had to use biotin supplement wise. I've read that it can help with shedding to a certain extent though. I would try to add the biotin and see if it helps any. Hope it does help with the shedding
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    Quote Originally Posted by ryank View Post
    I tried 2g before drinking and did notice not being foggy the next day.

    What else do you think would be good to supplement that might get washed out of your body after a couple days of binge drinking?
    The reason ALCAR works isn't because it's an essential nutrient that gets "washed out," but let's not focus on the details. Pyritinol would be very effective for treating hangovers
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I have never experienced hair loss from ALCAR. Is it possible? Yes. But there are a hundred genetic and environmental factors to assess first.
    Exactly. I'm not saying Alcar is the sole reason for my hair loss, but if it is slightly speeding it up I may have to find something to replace it with.
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    I just bought 100g ALCAR and 30g Sulbutiamine what would be an effective dose to start out with. I have ADD or AD/HD ( not really sure was diagnosed when I was really young and mom never did anything about it) and sometimes it's really hard for me to focus to do stuff and can get very exhaustive. I love bodybuilding but most of the time only make it to the gym 3 or 4 days out of my 5 day routine because of this. Also are there any other inexpensive products I could add to this stack to help me stay focused. Thanks in advance.
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    Coop, what dosage or Na-R-Ala do you recommend and is the NP Bulk a good option?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bakerwil View Post
    Coop, what dosage or Na-R-Ala do you recommend and is the NP Bulk a good option?
    Coop is probably studying, so I'll give you a couple answers.

    If you are using Na-R-Ala as a general antioxidant to run concurrently with ALCAR, a lower dose can suffice (~150mg).

    If you are using it as a GDA (in addition to above), a dose of 300mg about 20 minutes before a meal will do.

    NP bulk is a perfect choice - Geronova licensed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by domore View Post

    Coop is probably studying, so I'll give you a couple answers.

    If you are using Na-R-Ala as a general antioxidant to run concurrently with ALCAR, a lower dose can suffice (~150mg).

    If you are using it as a GDA (in addition to above), a dose of 300mg about 20 minutes before a meal will do.

    NP bulk is a perfect choice - Geronova licensed.
    When isn't he haha. 300mg Na-R-ALA + 500-750mg Agmatine is a nice homemade GDA. Running it now along with 500mg ALCAR.
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    I do try my best to be a student of life

    I agree with everything the 2 above posters said. Wise men.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I do try my best to be a student of life

    I agree with everything the 2 above posters said. Wise men.
    The ultimate student haha
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    Awesome, thanks everyone!
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    Does this sound solid, convenient and cost effective?
    30 minutes prior to main daily carb meal (and out of convenience)
    300mg Na-R-ALA + 500-750mg Agmatine + 500-1000mg ALCAR + 500mg choline citrate

    For the rest of the day, I would not need anymore Na-R-ALA
    Add a second serving of ALCAR with Choline along with modern BCAA's (empty stomach)
    Workout days preworkout: add a second serving of Agmatine (with Cit Mal) and modern BCAA's

    Thanks for your help!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bakerwil View Post
    Does this sound solid, convenient and cost effective?
    30 minutes prior to main daily carb meal (and out of convenience)
    300mg Na-R-ALA + 500-750mg Agmatine + 500-1000mg ALCAR + 500mg choline citrate

    For the rest of the day, I would not need anymore Na-R-ALA
    Add a second serving of ALCAR with Choline along with modern BCAA's (empty stomach)
    Workout days preworkout: add a second serving of Agmatine (with Cit Mal) and modern BCAA's

    Thanks for your help!
    I like your set up on everything. However if you wanted, you could add another dose of NA-R-ALA + Agmatine + ALCAR pre-meal later in the day.

    What pre-workout are you using? On your wokout days preworkout, it would be beneficial to add ALCAR + Choline Citrate if your preworkout doesn't already contain it.
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    Cooper, are you in medical school? Just wondering :-)
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    Good advice again kbayne!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Good advice again kbayne!
    The guy is on fire!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    I like your set up on everything. However if you wanted, you could add another dose of NA-R-ALA + Agmatine + ALCAR pre-meal later in the day.

    What pre-workout are you using? On your wokout days preworkout, it would be beneficial to add ALCAR + Choline Citrate if your preworkout doesn't already contain it.
    Thanks for the advice!
    Pre-workout, for now, is straight up Cit Mal (about 10mg), Agmatine and BCA's. However, I will add ALCAR and Choline to the mix!
    Very exciting. Thank
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    Good advice again kbayne!
    Thank you Mr.coop (:
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    Quote Originally Posted by domore View Post

    The guy is on fire!
    Just trying to give out great advice as I have seen you do numerous times
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    Quote Originally Posted by bakerwil View Post

    Thanks for the advice!
    Pre-workout, for now, is straight up Cit Mal (about 10mg), Agmatine and BCA's. However, I will add ALCAR and Choline to the mix!
    Very exciting. Thank
    For CM, you mean 10 grams right? That will be a nice homemade preworkout with all of that mixed together.
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    Are you supposed to take additional choline with the Na-R-ALA/ALCAR/Agmatine "Stack"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PuZo View Post
    Are you supposed to take additional choline with the Na-R-ALA/ALCAR/Agmatine "Stack"?
    No it is not necessary. It would be a nice addition though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    For CM, you mean 10 grams right? That will be a nice homemade preworkout with all of that mixed together.
    Right 10 grams!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bakerwil View Post

    Right 10 grams!
    Okay, good to know. Have you tried dosing CM lower? 6-9 grams is the clinical dose. 10 grams won't hurt any but you could get a longer run out of your CM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    Just trying to give out great advice as I have seen you do numerous times
    We're just spreading the good stuff.

    Quote Originally Posted by PuZo View Post
    Are you supposed to take additional choline with the Na-R-ALA/ALCAR/Agmatine "Stack"?
    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    No it is not necessary. It would be a nice addition though.
    Agreed. I always have Na-R-Ala, ALCAR, and citicoline on hand, so, by default, they get stacked together.
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    Quote Originally Posted by domore View Post

    Agreed. I always have Na-R-Ala, ALCAR, and citicoline on hand, so, by default, they get stacked together.
    It's a beautiful combo
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbayne View Post
    Okay, good to know. Have you tried dosing CM lower? 6-9 grams is the clinical dose. 10 grams won't hurt any but you could get a longer run out of your CM.
    I started at 6g, but noticed a substantial difference at 9g. I only use it a 3-5 times a week...so its not too bad on the budget!
    For choline, is Citrate the best bang for the buck? I see Bitartrate at the bulk stores, but not Citrate...what do you recommend?
    Thanks again for your help! I have learned allot reading your comments all over the place.....btw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bakerwil View Post
    I started at 6g, but noticed a substantial difference at 9g. I only use it a 3-5 times a week...so its not too bad on the budget!
    For choline, is Citrate the best bang for the buck? I see Bitartrate at the bulk stores, but not Citrate...what do you recommend?
    Thanks again for your help! I have learned allot reading your comments all over the place.....btw.
    If you want the "best bang for your buck," I would pick up some SNS choline citrate. If you have some extra money to spend, you could purchase CDP-Choline (many poster's personal favorite). CDP-Choline raises choline, uridine, and cytidine triphosphate levels. AND, the cytidine moiety also stimulates phosphatidylcholine synthesis, too.
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    Alright I just finished reading through this entire thread, tons of great info! I received my tub of PrimaForce ALCAR (powder) a couple of days ago and started with 2g (at 1g taken twice), but I think I might cut the dose by half because it did make me feel kind of lethargic/mildly anxious. It kind of made me feel foggy if that makes sense, being "out of it". Of course, this may be because I started taking 2g right off the bat.

    My question is: what signs would dictate whether you need a choline source if you're taking ALCAR? Do my above feelings mean that I should invest in a choline source like Alpha GPC? I also take Orange Triad (good antioxidant stuff in there), Hemavol (agmatine), Craze, and fish oil if that helps. Thanks!
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    Sounds like you might need a little choline. You'll have to feel out how much, if any, is needed.
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