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    cant wait to try Agmatine. Ai has it but we got sold out fast!
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Smeton
    cant wait to try Agmatine. Ai has it but we got sold out fast!
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    Got mine today. It arrived about 20 mins before I left for the gym. Took a gram with my preworkout and my pump lasted 4 hours... It slowly subsided after that but not at all bad for day one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McCoy1989 View Post
    Got mine today. It arrived about 20 mins before I left for the gym. Took a gram with my preworkout and my pump lasted 4 hours... It slowly subsided after that but not at all bad for day one.
    Especially considering you didn't eat a bunch of carbs beforehand either. Try 100-150g carbs+1g=amazing pumps
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daycrawler View Post
    Especially considering you didn't eat a bunch of carbs beforehand either. Try 100-150g carbs+1g=amazing pumps
    WOW... what carb source are you using for that many carbs???

    I used to use +100g carbs with Pslin and that handled the load pretty well BUT it came from blended whole oats(1cup), milk(2cup), a banana and 1 serving on whey pro... IDK that I coulda shoved down any more then that either....
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    I'm gonna try adding a significant amount of carbs this morning and see if the effect is exacerbated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough

    WOW... what carb source are you using for that many carbs???

    I used to use +100g carbs with Pslin and that handled the load pretty well BUT it came from blended whole oats(1cup), milk(2cup), a banana and 1 serving on whey pro... IDK that I coulda shoved down any more then that either....
    Food lol.

    Whole wheat pasta+ a lil sauce.

    I've never tried a carb product though lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough View Post
    WOW... what carb source are you using for that many carbs???

    I used to use +100g carbs with Pslin and that handled the load pretty well BUT it came from blended whole oats(1cup), milk(2cup), a banana and 1 serving on whey pro... IDK that I coulda shoved down any more then that either....
    Daily macros > food sources. If you wanna pound carbs, things are gonna get dirty .
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69

    Daily macros > food sources. If you wanna pound carbs, things are gonna get dirty .
    Lol what?

    Its easy to get carbs in on a bulk or recomp lol
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    I wish I had a bigger appetite so I could comfortably eat all the carbs I need without feeling like my body is going to explode from fullness lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdavid
    I wish I had a bigger appetite so I could comfortably eat all the carbs I need without feeling like my body is going to explode from fullness lol
    Haha. I eat when im full man. Gotta gain, dont stop eating. 3.5k cals a day
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daycrawler View Post
    Lol what?

    Its easy to get carbs in on a bulk or recomp lol
    I don't think you read his post correctly. He obviously isn't having an easy time getting his carbs in from a volume standpoint. I'm saying sugary cereals and the like aren't the devil if you need to fit more carbs into your diet.
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    I only ever got decently enhanced vascularity, nothing like a steroid cycle. OP must be lucky. The price on ag has come down since several years ago, that is good to see. Honestly though, I get better pumps from ashwaghanda, along with a host of other benefits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I don't think you read his post correctly. He obviously isn't having an easy time getting his carbs in from a volume standpoint. I'm saying sugary cereals and the like aren't the devil if you need to fit more carbs into your diet.
    oh no... if I wanted to go dirty I could get in the healthy base and then some easy... its just when its ALL oats or ALL whole wheat pasta it seems to fill ya up REAL good... lol


    Only time Id like to get that dirty though is on a bulk while using a STRONG gda and right before or after a workout...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough View Post
    oh no... if I wanted to go dirty I could get in the healthy base and then some easy... its just when its ALL oats or ALL whole wheat pasta it seems to fill ya up REAL good... lol


    Only time Id like to get that dirty though is on a bulk while using a STRONG gda and right before or after a workout...
    That's what I figured. Don't be overly cautious though when it comes to the food source. For general health, yes, "dirty" foods are inferior. But for body composition, just focus on hitting your macronutrient targets
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I don't think you read his post correctly. He obviously isn't having an easy time getting his carbs in from a volume standpoint. I'm saying sugary cereals and the like aren't the devil if you need to fit more carbs into your diet.

    Ohhh. Yeah. Very true. You need the calories anyways. It's like people who don't drink on a bulk, some friends refuse too..
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    i love me a bit of agmatine about 30mins pre workout! best pump other than nitrates ive had.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sourdough View Post
    oh no... if I wanted to go dirty I could get in the healthy base and then some easy... its just when its ALL oats or ALL whole wheat pasta it seems to fill ya up REAL good... lol


    Only time Id like to get that dirty though is on a bulk while using a STRONG gda and right before or after a workout...
    Never used a GDA... do they really help reduce this horrible bloat? Ugh I cannot stand it half the time takes all the fun out of bulking. Which GDA do you recommend I'll prob try one after my current cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdavid

    Never used a GDA... do they really help reduce this horrible bloat? Ugh I cannot stand it half the time takes all the fun out of bulking. Which GDA do you recommend I'll prob try one after my current cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdavid View Post
    Never used a GDA... do they really help reduce this horrible bloat? Ugh I cannot stand it half the time takes all the fun out of bulking. Which GDA do you recommend I'll prob try one after my current cycle.
    If bloating is an issue I'd look into probiotics over a GDA

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    Quote Originally Posted by itzDodge

    If bloating is an issue I'd look into probiotics over a GDA
    True. Havent bloated once while on Gut Health.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itzDodge View Post
    If bloating is an issue I'd look into probiotics over a GDA
    Funny you mention that I just bought a probiotic lol hopefully it starts to help
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    starting up agmatine myself now. gonna high dose it this time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bry17 View Post
    starting up agmatine myself now. gonna high dose it this time.
    How high you gonna dose?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StakedCop View Post
    How high you gonna dose?
    week 1 at 1.5, then 1.75-2g for the rest of the run.
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    Which company is best tho?? Is caps or powder is better??
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    Quote Originally Posted by punjabimunde View Post
    Which company is best tho?? Is caps or powder is better??
    Our SNS caps are tested by a third party for quality each and everytime...

    So you know 100% what you're getting each time, not saying we are better or worse. Just making a blanket statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daycrawler

    Our SNS caps are tested by a third party for quality each and everytime...

    So you know 100% what you're getting each time, not saying we are better or worse. Just making a blanket statement.
    Ok cool...I'm gonna order some caps...thank you
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    So how does this stuff compare to Viagra?
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    Quote Originally Posted by punjabimunde View Post
    Ok cool...I'm gonna order some caps...thank you
    I have tried both powder and caps. The caps are much more enjoyable to take. I don't mind the nasty taste of raw powders but if you do then caps are the way to go.
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    What is this stuff?! It sounds Awsome. Do you have to cycle off
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    Quote Originally Posted by analogsubstnz View Post
    What is this stuff?! It sounds Awsome. Do you have to cycle off
    I would recommend taking time off of it yes...
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    Quote Originally Posted by analogsubstnz
    What is this stuff?! It sounds Awsome. Do you have to cycle off
    No. the health benefits when taken on a consistent basis are numerous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc

    I would recommend taking time off of it yes...
    Really? You would cycle off Agmatine? I dont see the need to cycle off it so if you can enlighten me, please do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daycrawler View Post
    Really? You would cycle off Agmatine? I dont see the need to cycle off it so if you can enlighten me, please do.
    I would just because of the neuro effects. I am a big proponent of cycling off just about everything and giving the body a break.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fightbackhxc

    I would just because of the neuro effects. I am a big proponent of cycling off just about everything and giving the body a break.
    Ah. Yeah, Im one of those people who doesnt lol
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    I would cycle off agmatine without a doubt. That said, you can be on it for a couple months without necessitating the cycling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mr.cooper69 View Post
    I would cycle off agmatine without a doubt. That said, you can be on it for a couple months without necessitating the cycling.
    Yeah I am about to that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vengeance187 View Post
    So how does this stuff compare to Viagra?
    When I try this stuff I'll be sure to let you know lol
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