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  2. Quote Originally Posted by 1Fast400

    8:1:1? If someone believed that was the best ratio to go with, just go with straight leucine. Stick to what research says works, 2:1:1
    Straight leucine is inferior to modern.

    I enjoy the 8:1:1 and have been using it since it's release.
    People overlook the sustamine addition vs. Regular l-glutamine
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  3. Any research I've looked at as shown 2:1:1 being the ratio you needed due to how leucine is metabolized. I imagine you'd see just as effective, if not more, from a 2:1:1.

    All of the 4:1:1 and 8:1:1 were created not because of science, but because it was cheaper at the time to manufacture them as leucine was the cheapest of the 3 amino's. Now it's the most expensive. I'd expect a 8 bucks price increase on this product unless they mislabel or change formula.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by 1Fast400
    Any research I've looked at as shown 2:1:1 being the ratio you needed due to how leucine is metabolized. I imagine you'd see just as effective, if not more, from a 2:1:1.

    All of the 4:1:1 and 8:1:1 were created not because of science, but because it was cheaper at the time to manufacture them as leucine was the cheapest of the 3 amino's. Now it's the most expensive. I'd expect a 8 bucks price increase on this product unless they mislabel or change formula.
    Look into the modern bcaa write up (to find scholarly sources)

    From what I understand leucine is the main one responsible for activating mTOR
    But the other 2 are needed.

    I am on my phone otherwise I would expand and post what I find

  5. To metabolize 2 molecules of leucine you also have to metabolize 1 each of valine & isoleucine. Hence the 2:1:1 ratio. If you get leucine too high, you will actually deplete levels of the other 2 amino acids which may short circuit protein synthesis due to lack of substrate.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by 1Fast400 View Post
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    Aren't you associated with Scivation/Primaforce?

    I personally use whatever is the cheapest. Sometimes it is bulk, sometimes a premade product(xtend, recoverpro, etc)

    There is a site running a killer Recoverpro deal right now.

  7. I'm the CEO of both.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by 1Fast400 View Post
    I'm the CEO of both.
    Don't you think that would be pertinent information to share, when making product recommendations?

    I mean I love your products, and Scivation is one of the few companies I respect in this cluster **** of an industry, but I think people have a right to know where these opinions are coming from.

  9. No you're right. I'm so used to everyone knowing, I forget there are new posters. It isn't something I hide at all. What mod should I contact about changing my name? I'm stuck to my old name lol, had it for a decade. If you notice, I haven't posted in years until recently. Knocking the dust off.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by 1Fast400 View Post
    No you're right. I'm so used to everyone knowing, I forget there are new posters. It isn't something I hide at all. What mod should I contact about changing my name? I'm stuck to my old name lol, had it for a decade. If you notice, I haven't posted in years until recently. Knocking the dust off.
    It is understandable..

    I would just PM an ADMIN.

    Mabey add a signature for the meantime " Scivation/Primaforce CEO".
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