Just bought Jack3d,Yok3d,Oxyelite Pro..................

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  1. Please let us know how your supps are working. I hope it all works out for you bro!

  2. well i took oep and wow so far amazing...................feel just perfect and took a nice #2lol

    also not hungry whatsoever i drank a protein shake 5 min after and am not hungry

    will keep u posted when i tried jack3d (probly tomorrow)

  3. haha awesome brother, keep us posted hope these all work for you!

  4. yea i cant believe how NOT hungry I am........,like i dont even want a cracker lol

  5. good song here man

  6. Quote Originally Posted by th3vikes View Post
    Yeah those damn GNC guys will try and squeeze more money out of than you may want to give. If you didnt know they get a commission for any GNC product that they sell o be aware.

    However I would agree with him as far as amino acids and glutamine. Glutamine is great because if helps you recover quicker after a workout, so post workout I would take 5g. As far as amino acids (the building blocks of protein) I take the BCAA's from USP Labs. They are great and I sip it throughout my workout. Are glutamine and the BCAA's necessary right now? Nah I wouldn't say so. I am not saying you have to go get them but they would be a benefit. The casein protein is a slower digesting protein which means it takes longer for your body to break it down, so it usually is taken at night. I would recommend just a standard whey protein. I find that the whey proteins are faster absorbed into your muscles for faster recovery after a workout. if you want a good when, get any of the Optimum Nutrition. their cookies and cream is the best tasting one I have ever had!

    Your bro will be fine although I would start taking any pre-workout until 18 or so just because he is young but he can do what he wants.

    Just remember one thing though about supplements. They are only a tool and the hard work really comes for how hard you train and your diet.
    If we are talking about amno acids gear I think would be a awesome choice compared to modern bcaa only because he already is taking a protein shake so taking gear would be more cost effecive choice.

    I quote from Rickrock13
    Protein is one of the best – and worst – understood macronutrients in the bodybuilding world. Every bodybuilder knows they need at least a gram of protein per pound of bodyweight, but very little is understood about the quality of protein.

    That’s like telling someone they need to drive 100 miles to get to your house, but not telling them what direction!

    Proteins are just long chains built up from “links” of various individual amino acids. Some of
    those links are like titanium: essential amino acids. Other links are more like regular old iron: non-essential amino acids. Joining two amino acids together with each other forms a dipeptide, three joined togetherform a tripeptide, etc…Once we get 50 amino acids all joined together, we have a protein – the chain made from all of the little links.

    If we were making a chain, we want it to be strong, right? In fact, if we could, we would want to make the entire chain from titanium. Well, it’s the same when we look at a chain of amino acids. We want it to be made from high quality links. This is because the ratio of one amino acid to another determines the overall quality (or strength) of the chain. The highest quality, most anabolic protein sources all have an amino acid chain that is most closely associated with natural human protein.

    Gear is an advanced protein delivery system and nutrition octane booster!

    When you take 2-4 capsules of Gear with your meals, it not only provides you with valuable, high quality aminos, serum proteins, and fractionated whey; it also provides you with the bioactive enzymes your body needs to convert that protein into muscle. It’s like taking a pill that turns every meal into a high-quality protein shake!

    Once in the body, protein is broken back down into smaller peptides (dipeptides, tripeptides, etc…) and individual amino acids in the gastrointestinal tract, after which they’re sent to the liver, kidney and eventually the blood, thereby raising blood plasma levels of amino acids. When those get high enough, we see increased protein synthesis, which results in the accrual of muscle tissue. This is an anabolic effect – an increase in muscle mass. As you can see, the processing and digestion (breaking down) of proteins back into aminos is very important! If you’re not digesting your protein, then your body isn’t going to use it, which is exactly why we at Need To Build Muscle formulated Gear with loads of high quality digestive enzymes, like Aminogen and Bromelein.

    GEAR uses a concentrated form of protein that is both ENLARGED and FRACTIONED. In other words, each amino molecule not only encompasses more space, it is split into “micro molecules” which essentially increases the bio-availability ten-fold!

    A single gram of protein becomes more like TEN grams of super boiavalable protein!

    On top of that, Gear uses the power of Super Plasma Blood Serum Protein. Studies have shown that test animals fed a comparable calorie diet with Super Plasma Serum grew an average of 20% LARGER than those on a diet without it. How can that be? Because Super Plasma Serum is the protein that already exists in the blood plasma. It’s instantly recognized as “useable”. It’s like adding blood to your blood - there is no conversion! Whatever you add is “more”. That’s what happens with Super Plasma Serum. It’s essentially instant muscle! Since the actual amino molecule of SPS is FOUR TIMES LARGER than that of meat, egg or whey protein it can be dispersed over a greater area of the intestines, allowing for maximum nitrogen dispersion. The extraordinary growth potential from Super Plasma Serum may also be due to the fact that it contains the highest IGF-1 level of any natural food source.
    This is the closest thing to actual “injectable aminos”, which is what the pros have been using for years, BUT AT A FRACTION OF THE COST!

    Super Plasma Protein is protein isolate and made from hydrolyzed animal plasma. Because of its high concentration of bioactive proteins, peptides, and potent amino acid profile, this protein has been used to increase growth in multiple animal studies.

    When we look at proteins, we want to make sure the chains are made from as many high quality links as possible, because once the protein is in your body, your body breaks it back down into those same links, and uses it to produce more muscle. Proteins are in a constant state of synthesis, being built up and broken down. If you’re breaking them down at an accelerated rate, with intense weight training, you need to replenish them at an increased rate as well. When you go to the local hardware store to buy a chain, you can ask them how strong it is (its tensile strength). This tells you how much pressure the chain can take before it snaps. Try
    going to a restaurant and asking about the amino acid chains in their chicken cordon blue. They’ll look at you like you’re crazy! Most bodybuilders can rattle off the exact amount of protein in a glass of milk or a 6 oz. steak, but they have no idea about the quality of that protein or the rate at which there body will absorb this protein. That’s a huge mistake, and it’s like buying a chain without knowing what it’s made of. Who cares if it is 50 feet long, if it’s made of paper?

    Scientists have figured out a way to measure protein quality, just like they’ve figured out ways to figure out how strong different metals are.

    Protein Efficiency Ratio, or P.E. R. was one of the earliest ways they used to gauge the quality of various proteins. It was based on dividing body mass gains versus the amount of ingested protein. You might expect milk protein rates very highly, while corn, oats and other plant sourced
    proteins rank poorly.

    Blood serum proteins have a Digestibility above 90% and a protein efficiency ratio (PER) of 2.8! . THE HIGHEST SCORE EVER! In fact off the charts. But the power of blood serum protein does not stop there. Read the next part.

    The problem with BV is that it doesn’t tell us how much of that protein is being digested adequately, only that it’s not being excreted. Neither of these two protein measurement systems are widely used any longer because they’ve given way to another measure of protein quality, known as the protein-digestibility amino acid score (PCDAAS). This is the most accurate method of ranking various proteins, and it’s the one currently being used by scientists and doctors. This score ranks the essential amino acid content of various proteins and compares them with amino acid requirements in humans. The amino acid that is represented most poorly is found to be the limiting amino acid (the weakest link of our chain), and that system ultimately determines which protein sources provide the most abundant supply of amino acids that match human protein needs. Of course, this isn’t just science, it’s what we see in the real world too. How many people get huge by eating wheat protein? Nobody. the stuff that ranks the most highly is the stuff that makes all of the top bodybuilders huge –whey protein, beef, eggs, and milk.

    Of course, nobody eats a meal of just one food, right? People combine their foods at meal time, and if they’re smart, they can make some of those poor quality proteins into better ones. This is why we always see vegetarians combining certain plant-based foods; rice and beans, for example. Rice is deficient of several aminos that beans have in abundance.

    The amino acids lacking in one food is made up for in a different food.

    This strategy of combining foods is exactly what we’re doing with Gear! We have included branched chain amino acids, as well as amino rich superfoods like Super Plasma Protein, a protein isolate made from hydrolyzed blood plasma proteins.

    With Gear, you can have a peanut butter sandwich, (not a great source of quality protein) and the digestive enzymes will ensure that you’re processing every single gram, while the BCAAs, Super Plasma Protein, and Whey Protein Isolates fill in the missing aminos. It’s like turning every peanut butter sandwich, slice of pizza, and piece of French toast into a protein shake! A banana split is always going to have a lot of fat and sugar, but with Gear, at least it’ll also have a lot of
    high quality protein as well.
    Knowledge is power- The power to do your part and make a difference.

  7. link for gear?
  8. Knowledge is power- The power to do your part and make a difference.

  9. I personally use gear and love the results from my strength and weight. I really got me cut up and It was part of my contest prep for my NPS show.
    Knowledge is power- The power to do your part and make a difference.
  10. Knowledge is power- The power to do your part and make a difference.

  11. I take my Yok3d almost two hours prior to work out... and Jack 40 min PWO. Te OEP can be taken right when you wake up as it works better in a fasted state.. i would not go any longer than 45 min before eating after you take it or you will feel like your stomache is going to eat itself.. Also make sure you drink a lot of water... lots of stims in these products and if not properly hydrated you will defeat all your hard work.. nice stack.. I am new here also.. but I have been very active on other forums.. Welcome and keep in touch.

  12. th3vikes hooked you up with great info bro. like he said, these supps are just tools to help you along the way.. make sure your diet and workouts are on point. I've used both Jack3d and OxyElite Pro, but not Yok3d... yet. Jack3d is great for lifting days, and OEP for cardio. don't mix them- too much stim effect.

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  13. I took a lot of caff and then took Jack3d and Yok3d I felt like my heart was going to explode. When I was researching OEP I found the side effects to be too extreme.
    "I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take this anymore!" - Howard Bale

  14. I take jack3d 30 mins before workout. I can tell when its time to workout because it makes my skin crawl. Other than that it gives a good pump.


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