Citrulline Malate or GPLC

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Both are used as NO boosters
Both are used to increase endurence and work capacity.
Which would you use and why?
 
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N experience with GPLC but I get the feeling that compound ight be fadeing out of popularity. I do love citruline malate, but my vote would be biased.
 
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Do both 4 grams of gplc and 4 grams of cm.
 
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N experience with GPLC but I get the feeling that compound ight be fadeing out of popularity. I do love citruline malate, but my vote would be biased.
It may or may not be losing popularity but it works great for me. Have some of the best workouts using just 4.5 GPLC and 5000mcg of methyl B12.

FWIW I never used CM alone.

Do both 4 grams of gplc and 4 grams of cm.
I've had good results from this as well but i used 4.5 GPLC and Hemavol (has 5g of CM). I had great strength endurance with this combo.
 
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I would use Cit Malate because that's what I've always used ;)
 

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it's best to use both, as djbombsquad suggested. i'd only up the dosages - 5g of GPLC and 6-8g CM and use them in a combination with free form amino acids and optionally other ergogenics and no enhancers
 
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4 grams of gplc. Not 5. Also creatine nitrates in theroy it to is a no booster.
 

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i have creatine nitrate, i was gonna try gplc, and i usually use citrulline malate....idk if all three would be OVERKILL
 
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No also beta alaine at 4 grams too will help.
 
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5 grams of ribose pre and 5 grams post.
 
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4 grams of gplc. Not 5. Also creatine nitrates in theroy it to is a no booster.
I think the nitrate molecule works by relaxing blood vessels in a more direct way than by increasing NO.
 
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There's no scientific proof this does anything for healthy humans (that i could find ;) ).
I saw a chart somewhere that placed ribose in the "recently disproven" category. I wish I could remember the site. Had all types of supps on there. Wasn't your typical bb site.
 

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why add ribose to your supp plan? ribose is a sugar that is used to make atp, well isnt that why we take creatine? to increase atp...so adding more seems pointless. On top of that ribose doesnt have any PO4 groups to it, it is the base sugar of ATP, DNA, RNA ect if im not mistaken...all your energy from atp ect happens when the bonds between the PO4 groups are broken since there is a lot of energy built up between the polar bonds....i could be off here but thats my understanding
 
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Iv seen people who swear by ribose. Ribose and creatine are different. Creatine plays a vital role in energy production by recycling ATP (Adenosine Triphosphate).
Ribose is a naturally occurring substance used by every cell in your body to synthesize and rebuild energy. Ribose is the most fundamental building block of adenosine triphosphate (ATP), the primary source of energy for every muscle cell in your body.
So to take both would be a synergy you would think.
Also found this on the net.
The main beef with Ribose at this point is its cost. To have a true anabolic effect you need 5-20 grams daily (I usually suggest 50 to 100 percent of the amount of creatine you are taking, but it should easily be 200 percent when taken separately) and at the current price, its just not worth the money.
 

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yes ribose is the back bone to atp, but that does not mean that adding more will add in the production of atp
 
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Good for recovery IMO.
 
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Currently running Flashover and GPLC 5gs ED

Since monday, see how it goes.
 
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Nice combo
 

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I think GPLC could "falling-out" due to pricing issues,this is the only reason i have not taken it yet.
 
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I love GPLC.
 
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I think GPLC could "falling-out" due to pricing issues,this is the only reason i have not taken it yet.
creatine nitrate is much bigger bang for the buck, imo. i hear people say they get a great pump from gplc, well cn gives that too-plus size and strength. guys [me included] are gaining lbm and getting stronger from cn, plus the pump is fantastic-why take 40 different supps?

there comes a point when taking all these different compounds becomes more detrimental than advantageous. keeping it simple is probably the best policy.
 

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i Agree with this, if you list out your supps and see how many things ur taking you may be like dear god!, i for one try my best to keep it as simple as possible. Im currently using creatine nitrate, im almost out of cit mal and ill prob not buy it again, since there are no studies on it and i can never tell a difference really. Creatine Nitrate, Beta-Alanine, Multi, Fish Oil, EAA, Protein...not much more then this is needed for me anyways...i was curious which of the two had more positive effects for future reference. I would not stack the two as price is always a factor.
 
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i Agree with this, if you list out your supps and see how many things ur taking you may be like dear god!, i for one try my best to keep it as simple as possible. Im currently using creatine nitrate, im almost out of cit mal and ill prob not buy it again, since there are no studies on it and i can never tell a difference really. Creatine Nitrate, Beta-Alanine, Multi, Fish Oil, EAA, Protein...not much more then this is needed for me anyways...i was curious which of the two had more positive effects for future reference. I would not stack the two as price is always a factor.
exactly-show me a study where they are stacking 4 or more nitric oxide boosters at one time-geezus.
 

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cit mal only has one study done on it, and it had to do with finger extensions...not sure how this translates to enhanced endurence, also it does increase the amount of arginine in the blood...not sure if that exactly translates to pumps tho...
 
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cit mal only has one study done on it, and it had to do with finger extensions...not sure how this translates to enhanced endurence, also it does increase the amount of arginine in the blood...not sure if that exactly translates to pumps tho...
want to know the best damned nitric oxide booster?










VIAGRA
 
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GPLC is definitely the real deal. It's fairly new tho and not many people know about it yet. Give it some time tho. This stuff blows away any arginine, AAKG, etc products. This is why more and more companies base their PWOs on this. Also, the clinical trials show this is far more potent than any other pump predecessors. However, the price tag is heavy. Maybe if they can find materials chaper or make a more efficient way of producing GPLC, price may drop. I mean look what happened to AAKG when it came out 1st. Now it's pretty cheap. Oh, 1 more thing. All the clinical trials I looked at, were conducted with 4.5 g of GPLC per serving. Look for that amount in ur PWOs or at least half and then just double up.
Nothing against CM tho. It's very good. In fact stacking it with GPLC would make both work better. If I had to pick tho, GPLC wins.
 
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GPLC is definitely the real deal. It's fairly new tho and not many people know about it yet. Give it some time tho. This stuff blows away any arginine, AAKG, etc products. This is why more and more companies base their PWOs on this. Also, the clinical trials show this is far more potent than any other pump predecessors. However, the price tag is heavy. Maybe if they can find materials chaper or make a more efficient way of producing GPLC, price may drop. I mean look what happened to AAKG when it came out 1st. Now it's pretty cheap. Oh, 1 more thing. All the clinical trials I looked at, were conducted with 4.5 g of GPLC per serving. Look for that amount in ur PWOs or at least half and then just double up.
Nothing against CM tho. It's very good. In fact stacking it with GPLC would make both work better. If I had to pick tho, GPLC wins.
don't worry about the price of gplc, once enough people have tried mesomorph and creatine nitrate the price of gplc will fall-because no one will be buying it. they will all be buying creatine nitrate and mesomorph.
 

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i can do without mesomorph, creatine nitrate is pretty neat tho
 
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don't worry about the price of gplc, once enough people have tried mesomorph and creatine nitrate the price of gplc will fall-because no one will be buying it. they will all be buying creatine nitrate and mesomorph.
I gotta compare the two. i need to get me some CN asap and see what all this hub-bub is about.

Is that BOGO deal still on at APS?
 
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I gotta compare the two. i need to get me some CN asap and see what all this hub-bub is about.

Is that BOGO deal still on at APS?
as far as i know-hit jd up w/a pm. the bogo is a great deal-meso/cn-hell yeah!


they really are THAT good.
 
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People are giving all the pump action from Mesomorph to the creatine nitrate. You guys realize that it's probably hte only preworkout with a full dosage of citruline malate, pluf 4 grams of beta alanine. Im pretty sure that has something to do with it also.
 
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People are giving all thew pumo action from Mesomorph to the creatine nitrate. You guys ealize that it's probably hte only preworkout with a full dosage of citruline malate, pluf 4 grams of beta alanine. Im pretty sure that has something to do with it also.
thank you for that endorsement, not only do you get the cit mal and ba, but you get the creatine nitrate as icing on the cake.

mesomorph is the best!!!!!


btw-don't sell the creatine nitrate short-look at the logs of guys who are running it without meso. ive got some creatine nitrate coming, i will probably be out or close to out of the meso by then-so we will see.
 

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