anything better than jack3d?
- 08-24-2010, 11:16 PM
- 08-24-2010, 11:23 PM
Not new but I prefer White Flood over jack3d. just an opinion though.
- 08-24-2010, 11:37 PM
jack3d sucked for me man- i just got a tub of iforce maximize- GREAT! ASGT is great too i hear got a tub of it on the wayTest e/dbol/epi/winnie
08-24-2010, 11:42 PM
I've been a huge fan of White Flood, but I just started ASGT, and it's right up there. ASGT has a more complete profile: creatine, anti-estrogen, testosterone mimickers, antioxidants. White Flood gives better pumps, but lacks hormonal effects and creatine.
08-24-2010, 11:58 PM
ASGT is awesome man. Ive given about 4 samples of mine to other people who use jacked, 1MR, NO Shotgun, and muscle spike. They all prefered the ASGT and 2 of them ordered it same day immediately after leaving the gym! Now im running low and got to re-up haha. As much as i love ASGT ive been wanting to try maximize v2 since its been getting alot of positivie feedback lately. But its going to be hard to switch honestly not sure if ill be able to do it blindly. Wish i could just get my hands on some samples of maximize v2!
08-25-2010, 12:06 AM
Shoot, my wife even liked her recent first dose of ASGT, and set a PR on it.
08-25-2010, 12:14 AM
Haha I wish there was! I've been getting pretty tolerant to jack3d, using 3 scoops these days. I've tried ASGT and Hemo Rage Black lately and they don't even come close. Jack3d with Hemavol is ridiculous and if I wasn't so used to Jack3d and Hemavol wasn't so pricey I'd use it every workout, except legs. As mentioned, White Flood is pretty good...but I still prefer Jack3d.
08-25-2010, 12:27 AM
Try NK2TS.... stuff will set you on fire.
08-25-2010, 12:56 AM
08-25-2010, 05:42 AM
Asgt is handsdown the best preworkout supp I have ever used..
08-25-2010, 07:02 AM
I didn't get the desired results from ASGT, and think it is overrated. I haven't found anything better than Jack3d sofar. I'd like to try the Muscle Marinade. It seems to get some good feedback. But that is it with these products. What works for one, might be too light or heavy for another. Just try to get some samples or take a risk here and there and buy 1 tub.
08-25-2010, 07:13 AM
I wanna try Muscle Marinade and 1MR.
I had a rotation of Jacked, White Flood, and ASGT. I run ASGT as my primary..
08-25-2010, 07:13 AM
Maximize V2!!!! Real potent stuff
08-25-2010, 08:50 AM
Anything that contains geranium and caffeine is a win.
08-25-2010, 09:01 AM
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08-25-2010, 10:11 AM
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08-25-2010, 10:13 AM
Dymatize Xpand is my favorite.
08-25-2010, 10:18 AM
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08-25-2010, 11:10 AM
ASGT worked wonders for me! I've also taken jack3d but it lost its effectiveness for me towards the end of the month. ASGT kept feeling like the first dose every time. Probably could go 2 months + with it.
08-25-2010, 11:16 AM
08-25-2010, 11:32 AM
ASGT,Presurge,PreMax,Maximize, Assault all very solid choices.
i also like rag.
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08-25-2010, 12:09 PM
I think if pure energy and pumps is your sole goal Jack3d still reigns supreme but as mentioned theres more complete profiles out there ASGT, I really liked Muscle Marinade never used ASGT but heard tremendous reviews. Its basically whatever you want.
08-25-2010, 12:23 PM
AGST didn't do much for me. Jack3d I think is better.
However, I prefer BPI's 1MR. Bare bones like jack3d, just as effective/concentrated, more caffeine. You don't need 1-3 scoops; instead 1 scoop is hardcore enough...
I used to use 2-3 scoops jack3d. It only takes me 2/3-3/4 scoop of 1MR for same or better effects. And its cleaner, no crash later. For some reason I always crashed after a jack3d workout.
08-25-2010, 12:29 PM
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08-25-2010, 01:31 PM
08-25-2010, 01:44 PM
Out of fear of being ripped to shreds and thrown to the lions for lunch i will say ;
anarchy covalex. Jack3d didnt do anything to me and no-xplode only worked when taken with coffee. 1 scoop of covalex and I am lit.
Downside is the crash after. Overall i like it though. might have to try this asgt though since people here seem to be digging on it.
08-25-2010, 01:50 PM
I did Hemodraulix with a cup of coffee as a preworkout for a while - good results.
Then I tried Jack3d for a month or so - better results.
Two weeks ago I picked up the ASGT/Anadraulic Pump/Postal workout kit just to try it out after reading all the hype. Was skeptical at first and the taste of ASGT took some getting used to. I'm doing ASGT one hour before quitting time, a cup of coffee 20 minutes later, Anadraulic Pump just before leaving for the gym, and Holy Crap - I've never been this psyched and focused in the gym. My lifts are heavier each session, aggression is better than ever, mood is great, not to mention libido through the roof. The wife doesn't know I'm taking this as I've got BP issues and she'd give me a hard time about it but she's definitely liking the results. I could lift for hours on this stuff but I force myself to get out when I think I might have had enough. I'm not trying to jump on any bandwagon here but so far this stuff has given me the best results in the gym of anything I've ever tried. The ASGT is still an "aquired taste" - after the first dose I wasn't sure I could even choke it down again but after hitting the gym it was well worth it where it matters. Just slam it and hit the weights. I'll be getting more this week when the kit runs out.
08-25-2010, 02:18 PM
08-25-2010, 02:21 PM
08-25-2010, 03:30 PM
I saw someone else mention Man's Clout. Before ASGT my favorite pre workout was a stack of Man's Clout and Body Octane. I am very stim sensitive so its hard to find a good stim preworkout like ASGT that doesnt give me jitters or crash feeling once it wears off. So if your up for non stim PWO id say give that stack a shot its pretty amazing.
08-25-2010, 06:49 PM
I want to try ASGT (and asked for a sample but never got it but there was tons of people asking so I know there was lots of confusion). But I personally prefer the stim'd out cracked out feeling (best workouts in the world when I'm this crazy and rowdy lol) and from what people are saying, ASGT seems mild in the stim department. However, that being said, I don't use N2KTS or Jack3d when I was using it that often.
You really don't need a pre-WO to get your favorite workouts like chest done. Doing chest is enjoyable all in itself and I look forward to it all day long--or arms. But I don't look forward to doing 315 squats for reps LOL. But a little, or a lot in my case stim pre-WO and I'm running to the squat rack!
That's how I personally use a pre-WO so all I'm after is the stims to get me through tired days, or enemy workouts. I just want a powerful stimulant.
And to Grey yes I use it. I don't know what your implying with your weird question and remark.
08-25-2010, 07:09 PM
08-25-2010, 07:50 PM
08-25-2010, 07:50 PM
Maximize V2 @ 2 scoops all the way boys! Then Muscle Marinade at one rounded scoop, followed by 3 scoops of Jacked. Thats my order of preference. MV2 is sooo smooth, you barely notice when its gone.
08-25-2010, 07:50 PM
08-25-2010, 07:56 PM
Juggernaut by Infinite Labs was pretty good. I like Jack3d, but I found Juggernaut was stronger.
08-25-2010, 09:04 PM
Yo I was looking for the same thing and one of my buddys got a sample of aps mesomorph, at the last europa in dallas. Its strong bro im literally "in the zone" lol
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