anything new that i have missed?
N2KTS is the best pre-workout supp I've used to date.Try NK2TS.... stuff will set you on fire.
x2..Not new but I prefer White Flood over jack3d. just an opinion though.
Were you immune to the rep reset?!!! :bigok:Try NK2TS.... stuff will set you on fire.
SAME HERE!!N2KTS is the best pre-workout supp I've used to date.
I still need to try ASGT tho.
1 M.R. is basically stims, tried it and the marketing pitch is that all you need is one scoop, which is mostly comprised of stims with limited amounts of anything else that's beneficial. I take 3 scoops of Jack3d and know I'm at least getting a decent amount of creatine and BA, same with Maximize (2 scoops). Muscle Marinade is also a great product.I wanna try Muscle Marinade and 1MR.
I had a rotation of Jacked, White Flood, and ASGT. I run ASGT as my primary..
the exact same thing as this guy, went through 6 tubs of maximize with me and my dad, we LOVE it..... great stuff,jack3d sucked for me man- i just got a tub of iforce maximize- GREAT! ASGT is great too i hear got a tub of it on the way
have you personally tried nk2ts? granted they are new to the forum but this is the first ive ever seen anyone recommend that product.Try NK2TS.... stuff will set you on fire.
Haha I wish there was! I've been getting pretty tolerant to jack3d, using 3 scoops these days. I've tried ASGT and Hemo Rage Black lately and they don't even come close. Jack3d with Hemavol is ridiculous and if I wasn't so used to Jack3d and Hemavol wasn't so pricey I'd use it every workout, except legs. As mentioned, White Flood is pretty good...but I still prefer Jack3d.
Maximize V2!!!! Real potent stuff
the exact same thing as this guy, went through 6 tubs of maximize with me and my dad, we LOVE it..... great stuff,
but we are trying ASGT coming this week
1 M.R. is basically stims, tried it and the marketing pitch is that all you need is one scoop, which is mostly comprised of stims with limited amounts of anything else that's beneficial. I take 3 scoops of Jack3d and know I'm at least getting a decent amount of creatine and BA, same with Maximize (2 scoops). Muscle Marinade is also a great product.
See the quote above yours. 1rm is a stim, marketed as a pre-workout. If you like a whopping stim pre-workout, go for it, but I'm not convinced it's really good for gains, the CNS, and recovery. I prefer REAL pre-workout products that have effective doses of ergogenic ingredients, like ASGT, Clout, etc. and don't murder your adrenals.AGST didn't do much for me. Jack3d I think is better.
However, I prefer BPI's 1MR. Bare bones like jack3d, just as effective/concentrated, more caffeine. You don't need 1-3 scoops; instead 1 scoop is hardcore enough...
I used to use 2-3 scoops jack3d. It only takes me 2/3-3/4 scoop of 1MR for same or better effects. And its cleaner, no crash later. For some reason I always crashed after a jack3d workout.
Asgt is handsdown the best preworkout supp I have ever used..
I wanna try Muscle Marinade and 1MR.
I had a rotation of Jacked, White Flood, and ASGT. I run ASGT as my primary..
]ASGT worked wonders for me! I've also taken jack3d but it lost its effectiveness for me towards the end of the month. ASGT kept feeling like the first dose every time. Probably could go 2 months + with it.[/B]
ASGT,Presurge,PreMax,Maximize,Assault all very solid choices.
i also like rag.
I did Hemodraulix with a cup of coffee as a preworkout for a while - good results.
Then I tried Jack3d for a month or so - better results.
Two weeks ago I picked up the ASGT/Anadraulic Pump/Postal workout kit just to try it out after reading all the hype. Was skeptical at first and the taste of ASGT took some getting used to. I'm doing ASGT one hour before quitting time, a cup of coffee 20 minutes later, Anadraulic Pump just before leaving for the gym, and Holy Crap - I've never been this psyched and focused in the gym. My lifts are heavier each session, aggression is better than ever, mood is great, not to mention libido through the roof. The wife doesn't know I'm taking this as I've got BP issues and she'd give me a hard time about it but she's definitely liking the results. I could lift for hours on this stuff but I force myself to get out when I think I might have had enough. I'm not trying to jump on any bandwagon here but so far this stuff has given me the best results in the gym of anything I've ever tried. The ASGT is still an "aquired taste" - after the first dose I wasn't sure I could even choke it down again but after hitting the gym it was well worth it where it matters. Just slam it and hit the weights. I'll be getting more this week when the kit runs out.
Me, too. I love feeling out of control, in a sense, and then coming home and crashing like a bus into a wall. Strangely, I get that feeling from ASGT/Anadraulic Pump. I do 1.5 scoops of each and when I'm done and walk in the door, I am wiped out to the point of taking a nap because I'm physically worthless. No other supp has ever done that to me.But I personally prefer the stim'd out cracked out feeling (best workouts in the world when I'm this crazy and rowdy lol)
Honestly, in some weird way I like that feeling too...Its almost gratifying knowing I busted a$$! Sorry, it IS gratifying!Me, too. I love feeling out of control, in a sense, and then coming home and crashing like a bus into a wall. Strangely, I get that feeling from ASGT/Anadraulic Pump. I do 1.5 scoops of each and when I'm done and walk in the door, I am wiped out to the point of taking a nap because I'm physically worthless. No other supp has ever done that to me.
CM, nice aesthetics holmes! damn!I want to try ASGT (and asked for a sample but never got it but there was tons of people asking so I know there was lots of confusion). But I personally prefer the stim'd out cracked out feeling (best workouts in the world when I'm this crazy and rowdy lol) and from what people are saying, ASGT seems mild in the stim department. However, that being said, I don't use N2KTS or Jack3d when I was using it that often.
You really don't need a pre-WO to get your favorite workouts like chest done. Doing chest is enjoyable all in itself and I look forward to it all day long--or arms. But I don't look forward to doing 315 squats for reps LOL. But a little, or a lot in my case stim pre-WO and I'm running to the squat rack!
That's how I personally use a pre-WO so all I'm after is the stims to get me through tired days, or enemy workouts. I just want a powerful stimulant.
And to Grey yes I use it. I don't know what your implying with your weird question and remark.
I don't think there's any such thing as a good artificial sweetener...but ace k is one of the more benign ones. I wish more companies would use stevia, myself.It is also used as a sweetener in pharmaceutical products,[5] especially chewable and liquid medications, where it can make the active ingredients more palatable.
[edit]Safety concerns
As with other artificial sweeteners, there is concern over the safety of acesulfame potassium. Although studies of these sweeteners show varying and controversial degrees of dietary safety, the United States Food and Drug Administration (US FDA) has approved their general use. Critics say acesulfame potassium has not been studied adequately and may be carcinogenic, although these claims have been dismissed by the US FDA[6] and by equivalent authorities in the European Union.[7]
Some potential effects associated with acesulfame have appeared in animal studies. Acesulfame K has been shown to stimulate dose-dependent insulin secretion in rats, though no hyperglycemia was observed.[8]
Rodent studies have shown no increased incidence of tumors in response to administration of acesulfame K.[9] Research conducted by the National Toxicology Program fed rats acesulfame K for 9 months, making up as much as 3% of their total diet (which would be equivalent to a human consuming 1,343 12-oz cans of artificially sweetened soda every day). There was no sign that these (or lower) levels of acesulfame K increased the rats' risk of cancer or other neoplasms.[10] Further research in terms of food safety has been recommended.[11][12]
Maybe I'll have to look into Hemodraulix a bit moreThe combo of Axis Labs Hemodraulix plus Applied Nutriceuticals Black Cats is hard to beat.
Its one of the few pump products that weren't weight limiting if you know what I mean. Most conventional pump products as you start to get a serious pump, your ability to move weight starts to go down. I guess because part of the pump from Hemodraulix comes from Arachidonic acid that it doesn't limit the weight. Nifty stuff, the only downside is its a 6 capsule dose and they are basically 1000mg fish oil size gelcapsMaybe I'll have to look into Hemodraulix a bit more