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    I have been wt training for about 7 yrs now and have built up a nice muscle base. I am 5-7 about 170lbs and lean. I am going to compete in a triathlon in a couple of months and I want to retain as much muscle as possible during training, but I know I will lose some muscle.

    recommend any supps that would help in:
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    -endurance training

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    I've been lifting and supplementing for at least 7 years too. I'm 5-11, 185lbs. Just did my first triathlon ever. Took standard pre-workout (ASGT, Jacked sometimes combined), EFA's, NutraPro (2 shakes a day), and Xtend (sip 2 servings in the morning, drink during and post-workout), and finished my AnabolicPump/Waxy Maize cycle about 3 weeks into tri training. Supps I wish I did: cordyceps for optimum O2 usage and creatine mono for max power output. Also trained about 2x a day 6 days on 1 off combining swimming, spin, running, or lifting (10-20 reps).

    I also ate plenty of carbs including oatmeal, whole wheat sandwiches, etc. I hardly lost any muscle or strength, got rid of about 5lbs body fat. Hope this helps

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    I am training for a sprint triathlon and I plan on incorporating this:

    http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/m...-v02-caps.html

    I hear great things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeswimlive View Post
    I am training for a sprint triathlon and I plan on incorporating this:

    http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/m...-v02-caps.html

    I hear great things.
    Def, I have used Cordygen for soccer training. I will make this part of my regiment. Also some Cytomax and BCAAs.
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    adding Drive would be a nice choice as well, it also has cordyceps in it, as well as the forslean and other ingredients to help with muscle retention
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    Quote Originally Posted by p5sky View Post
    I have been wt training for about 7 yrs now and have built up a nice muscle base. I am 5-7 about 170lbs and lean. I am going to compete in a triathlon in a couple of months and I want to retain as much muscle as possible during training, but I know I will lose some muscle.

    recommend any supps that would help in:
    -maintaining muscle mass
    -endurance training

    Thanks
    Drive's key features and effects are improving endurance - I can personally attest to this. It will also help in maintaining your muscle mass - but bear in mind that your NUTRITION is going to play the key role in that (and if it's right, you shouldn't lose any muscle at all, honestly), since you definitely need to be eating enough for energy and to cover your energy requirements, and if you're going to be doing a long triathlon and doing hours and hours of training, then you'll be eating close to (if not more) than ~10,000 calories a day (that was what I was eating on average daily when I was cycling)!

    You may also want to look into using Cre-02, as if you're resistance training, creatine is essential, and Cre-02 also has some endurance boosting effects.

    BCAAs will be good for consumption during training - as opposed to just drinking water - and in aiding in recovery post-training.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    Drive's key features and effects are improving endurance - I can personally attest to this. It will also help in maintaining your muscle mass - but bear in mind that your NUTRITION is going to play the key role in that (and if it's right, you shouldn't lose any muscle at all, honestly), since you definitely need to be eating enough for energy and to cover your energy requirements, and if you're going to be doing a long triathlon and doing hours and hours of training, then you'll be eating close to (if not more) than ~10,000 calories a day (that was what I was eating on average daily when I was cycling)!

    You may also want to look into using Cre-02, as if you're resistance training, creatine is essential, and Cre-02 also has some endurance boosting effects.

    BCAAs will be good for consumption during training - as opposed to just drinking water - and in aiding in recovery post-training.


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    Thanks Rosie. I have used Drive but not in a while. I am def looking at my nutrition so that I can retain my muscle mass. It is a tri sprint so nothing extremely demanding, but I do not usually do that much cardio training outside of my soccer training and coaching ( I am not a spectator coach, I am very involved with fitness and technique training along with the players). I probably wont need 10k cal but I will def increase.

    I have not used CRE02 and have heard good things, this may be my new creatine once I finish Neovar.
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    Cytomax from Cytosport has been very popular, as well as Endurox R4. Instead of pre-workout supplements and stimulants, I know many that use Post Workout supplements for before and after training due to the carb/protein/BCAA ratio. The goal is to get energy from Carbs/nutrients and not from stimulants ..etc. Adding Creatine would help as well in endurance.

    Good luck.
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    If I was in your shoes I think my supss would be like this

    Cre02
    Xtend
    Pp's beta alanine
    A good carb supp
    And even no I haven't ran it I would throw in drive

    Of course butrition is key but I'm sure you already know this so I'm not gonna even go there
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    CordYgen 5.. for training

    If you want you can take this for you race Cordygen VO2 ULTRA...

    Also drink some PRe-max or Assault or mix them togather!

    I Have run 5k races using these products. ( boston)
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    1.creatine and protein for maintaning mass
    2.caffeine for endurance
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    Quercetin has good literature for endurance. Just ask Lance Armstrong
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    I also prefer straight blood doping.
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    You might want to PM Crowler from AI, if I recall he does Ironman competitions.
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    ^^^Stole my thunder! I was going to say the same thing.

    I've talked to him about this in the past and said that Nimbus Poseidon was great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bikeswimlive View Post
    I also prefer straight blood doping.
    I thought of this, but I dont wanna be ratted out by Floyd Landis . . . snitch!
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    You might want to PM Crowler from AI, if I recall he does Ironman competitions.
    yea he does.

    he would be a great person to ask.

    Caffenine helps with glycogen resynthesis. not sure id wanna take it though before doing anything like that.

    Cordyceps and PLCAR are great.
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    staples for you buddy are creatine beta alanine, ibcaa or peptopro(maximum absorbed protein) citrulline malate, and a good energy source, maybe oxy elite pro or maximize v2 is my fav
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    i know this won't go over well since this forum is basically a big advertisement for the companies who participate, but besides the many great options given, look into Hammer Nutrition's products if endurance is your game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by emiliozapata View Post
    i know this won't go over well since this forum is basically a big advertisement for the companies who participate, but besides the many great options given, look into Hammer Nutrition's products if endurance is your game.
    Thanks, good looking products for endurance athletes. I will be looking at a couple of products to add to the staples.
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    Hammer is definitely the way to go for race/training fueling. Their gels provide a quick boost for shorter events and their Perpetuem is a must for longer ones (olympic distance and beyond).
    As far as supplements, I second cit. mal, BA, creatine, and BCAA's (pre. during and post).
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    Quote Originally Posted by scherbs View Post
    Hammer is definitely the way to go for race/training fueling. Their gels provide a quick boost for shorter events and their Perpetuem is a must for longer ones (olympic distance and beyond).
    As far as supplements, I second cit. mal, BA, creatine, and BCAA's (pre. during and post).
    Yeah, I am looking at Recoverite, Endurolytes, and Heed. Also thinking of using LG Postal as a pre-workout with the carbs, creatine, BA, protein.
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    Aminos!!!!
    BCAA, EAA, Beta Alanine

    I would be loading up on those
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    Ohhhh the Endurolytes looks nice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nattydisaster View Post
    Quercetin has good literature for endurance. Just ask Lance Armstrong
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    Some good suggestions coming in all the time . . . Thanks!!!

    Any recommendations on training styles? I started DC training about 3 weeks ago and Im noticing some results quickly. But this was before I decided to do the triathlon. Should I do hi-rep range, 12-15 for more endurance?
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    I like to do some muscle confusion type of stuff, if you are doing some of your swimming at a pool, work some 100's and then do wall dips and pushups to near failure (you'll find "failure" more as cardio limited rather than muscularly) and then jump back in for a 100 , repeat until you basically can't swim the 100, it's a gut check but really gets the blood pumping.

    One more thing, the single greatest endurance boost I have ever experienced is from consuming at least 1/2 of a raw red beet per day. I blend it into my shakes , even throwing the greens in with it, actually a noticeable difference after 3-4 days of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p5sky View Post
    Some good suggestions coming in all the time . . . Thanks!!!

    Any recommendations on training styles? I started DC training about 3 weeks ago and Im noticing some results quickly. But this was before I decided to do the triathlon. Should I do hi-rep range, 12-15 for more endurance?
    If you want to be good at the triathlon, then the bulk of your training should be endurance work - SWIMMING, CYCLING, RUNNING - because that's the way to get the base/endurance for it. Weights should go through the same phases re base/strength, load/specific strength, strength endurance/speed, low-speed, high-speed/anaerobic threshold, sprints/power/speed as your cardio-specific training. Maybe lifting only 1-2 times a week, 3 times tops in the earlier phases.

    I highly recommend reading Jon Ackland's The Power to Perform - it has triathlon specific training programmes, from a sprint/Olympic to Ironman re distance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by zwa004 View Post
    Side note: look into getting Vibram barefoot shoes for your run, your legs and feet will thank you.

    No, they'll hate you. THe rest of your body will thank you, but not your feet or calves.

    Quote Originally Posted by bikeswimlive View Post
    I am training for a sprint triathlon and I plan on incorporating this:

    http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/m...-v02-caps.html

    I hear great things.
    Great stuff, but I honestly prefer Cordygen5. It's the ****.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    Drive's key features and effects are improving endurance - I can personally attest to this. It will also help in maintaining your muscle mass - but bear in mind that your NUTRITION is going to play the key role in that (and if it's right, you shouldn't lose any muscle at all, honestly), since you definitely need to be eating enough for energy and to cover your energy requirements, and if you're going to be doing a long triathlon and doing hours and hours of training, then you'll be eating close to (if not more) than ~10,000 calories a day (that was what I was eating on average daily when I was cycling)!

    You may also want to look into using Cre-02, as if you're resistance training, creatine is essential, and Cre-02 also has some endurance boosting effects.

    BCAAs will be good for consumption during training - as opposed to just drinking water - and in aiding in recovery post-training.


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    Agreed.

    Quote Originally Posted by emiliozapata View Post
    One more thing, the single greatest endurance boost I have ever experienced is from consuming at least 1/2 of a raw red beet per day. I blend it into my shakes , even throwing the greens in with it, actually a noticeable difference after 3-4 days of this.
    WTF? Puke. But hey, tell me more. Sounds like I need to go on a ginger/onion juice/white button mushroon/beet diet.
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    for endurance i would say take a plasma enhancer for oxygen supply to the muscles and lungs go with plasmatic ep its nice
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    and of course lots of aminos man you need lots of them for recovery
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosie Chee Scott View Post
    If you want to be good at the triathlon, then the bulk of your training should be endurance work - SWIMMING, CYCLING, RUNNING - because that's the way to get the base/endurance for it. Weights should go through the same phases re base/strength, load/specific strength, strength endurance/speed, low-speed, high-speed/anaerobic threshold, sprints/power/speed as your cardio-specific training. Maybe lifting only 1-2 times a week, 3 times tops in the earlier phases.

    I highly recommend reading Jon Ackland's The Power to Perform - it has triathlon specific training programmes, from a sprint/Olympic to Ironman re distance.


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    Thanks Rosie! I am competing in my first sprint triathlon so I do want to be prepared and finish respectably. I am not trying to win or place, this is purely recreational comp just attaining a goal and challenge.

    I was slim throughout my first 35 yrs of life, 5-7 and 135lbs. I played soccer in hs and college, ran x-country in school but I have never been muscular. Now that I have put on a solid base I DO NOT want to drop back down in size. My buddies that do tri regularly are built like I used to be.

    I am focusing on endurance work for the tri sports, but I do want to continue to wt train. I was looking at designing a sched just as you have mentioned. I do wt training 3x/week, over the next few weeks I will cut that to 2x.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p5sky View Post
    Thanks Rosie! I am competing in my first sprint triathlon so I do want to be prepared and finish respectably. I am not trying to win or place, this is purely recreational comp just attaining a goal and challenge.

    I was slim throughout my first 35 yrs of life, 5-7 and 135lbs. I played soccer in hs and college, ran x-country in school but I have never been muscular. Now that I have put on a solid base I DO NOT want to drop back down in size. My buddies that do tri regularly are built like I used to be.

    I am focusing on endurance work for the tri sports, but I do want to continue to wt train. I was looking at designing a sched just as you have mentioned. I do wt training 3x/week, over the next few weeks I will cut that to 2x.
    No worries

    As a former endurance AND power athlete, I understand the importance of achieving that balance. For the shorter triathlons, the extra muscle mass should be useful for you. And even though triathletes and other such endurance athletes have muscles and are often ripped to shreds, their muscular mass is not really very high, and what they DO have is very well conditioned.

    Just make sure that you get your resistance training in line with your specific training - and if it's just this one triathlon, then 16 weeks of training specifically for it is not going to do you any harm. Just remember to EAT for the energy expenditure being done.


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    Wow, never heard of this!
    http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/m...-100-caps.html

    I may look into an MST stack of Nitroceps, Cre-02, Athlytes. They all have Cordyceps in the formula so I would not need that addition. I also want something like Drive too. All this along with some nutritional supps from Carb boom or Hammer Nutrition.

    Def will have other staples such as BCAAs, BA included
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    So far so good. I have increased tri training yet I have maintained weight while def slimming down. Ive got bulk creatine, beta alanine, citr mal, Xtend, add that to Drive and increased calories.

    I'm also gonna pick up some Heed and Endurolytes when I go to the bike shop tomorrow.

    I did find a Creatine/ATP/Ribose blend, wondering about trying this out.
    -OMEGA RecoverBro-
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