good pre workout supp?
- 05-08-2010, 02:34 PM
good pre workout supp?
looking for a good pre workout drink that doesnt contain creatine because of bloat. Also no caffeine. Any suggestions? Also a good test booster or some product to lean up? For some reason most test boosters hurt my stomach? Liquid gel caps are fine but for some reason certain products hurt my stomach.
- 05-08-2010, 03:07 PM
no caffiene and no creatine?....
no creatine would be White Flood... but i can't be without my stims... my precious... . . precious. . .
- 05-08-2010, 03:12 PM
Im pretty sure pre max is caffeine and creatine free...pretty pricey but Ive never heard anyone say they didnt like it.
Im taking prime now during a cut, losing fat and gaining weight, powerFULL sounds pretty interesting also, will def use in the future to lean up.
05-08-2010, 04:28 PM
05-08-2010, 05:42 PM
right on Killerkanadia- Anadraulic Pump... i forgot about that... even though i have a jug in my cabinet right now LOL
05-08-2010, 06:01 PM
i know you said no creatine, but you should look into ragnarok caff. free. i had no probs with bloat when taking this everyday so if you take it only preWO you should be fine. its a great prod imo check it out http://store.anabolicminds.com/produ...-servings.html
05-08-2010, 06:31 PM
05-08-2010, 06:40 PM
05-08-2010, 06:43 PM
Yeah wow that really limits no creatine or stim would either only be NitroCeps by MST, Anadraulic Pump by LG that comes off the top of my head.
05-08-2010, 10:40 PM
Look into something like MAN Body Octane or PP Premax if you want non stim and no creatine
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05-09-2010, 03:53 AM
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05-09-2010, 03:56 PM
No caff no creatine products like that off the top of my head will be something like MST Nitroceps
05-09-2010, 04:00 PM
Exactly what jn230 said^^. If im not taking Premax then im making my own, via Primordial Performance's goodies. Ibcaa, GPLC, Arginocarn, Toco 8 and EndoAmp Max. Throw in some Crystal Light and im good. Thats what I use half way into my morning fasted cardio. I then finish it right before my cardio ends.
Another scoop of Arginocarn and a serving of MAP, taken about a half hour later works great too.
05-09-2010, 06:34 PM
For a creatine and caffeine free pre wo, I would recommend Syntrax Nitrous.
For a test booster, topical formestane.
05-09-2010, 06:58 PM
05-09-2010, 11:05 PM
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05-09-2010, 11:36 PM
premax is 10 servings for 50 bucks, looks like a solid product, but that price is insane....
05-10-2010, 02:00 PM
05-10-2010, 02:40 PM
what does premax bring??Strength gains? Energy? Heard its really good but not much detail?
05-10-2010, 02:55 PM
Amino Acids, Protein, Real Nitric Oxide increase through GPLC, Pomegranate (Anti-Oxidant), Electrolytes.
It is the definition of a well rounded pre workout.
05-10-2010, 11:54 PM
Sounds like Hemavol may be an option, no creatine or caffeine.
05-11-2010, 12:45 AM
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