If anyone has a few minutes to spare I would love to know the difference in some of the popular AIs such as formex, TD formstane, Formadrol Extreme, ATD, 6 bromo. I know this is a lengthy list but be greatly appreciated to learn the difference.
atd is a suicide inhibitor tooATD does not eliminate estrogen but tends to modulate it, and help simultaneously raise testosterone levels.
You say in your 6-bromo controversies section that there is potential for anabolic isomers... im a ratard, what does this mean?http://anabolicminds.com/forum/post-cycle-therapy/76880-otc-ais-pros.html
It's been a long time since I posted this... my personal views have evolved over time, but it'll be a good start for you to start your own research.
You're correct about OTC AIs. IIRC, most to all script AIs are competitive inhibitors.B,
I think you got this already, but all the otc AI's are suicide inhibitors just to clarify. The nice thing about the otc AI's is that none of them eradicate estrogen... even exemestane, which steps it up a notch, blocks something like 40-60% based on your info source. Form is very similar to exem theoretically, so I'm sure it's on the lower end... maybe 25-50% range would be my guess.
An isomer is a chemical variation, in lehmans terms, to the "real thing". Usually either a different olefin geometry (cis vs. trans isomers) or stereochemical isomers (enantiomers, diastereomers, epimers, etc). Even though the change is very slight, the molecule becomes, essentially, 100% different even though the real thing vs. the isomer looks about the same.Enj,
I suck at chemistry so bear with my explanation. Long story short, an isomer is a slight variation. IMO the controversy was waaay overstated, but worth mentioning at the time since it was a hot topic.
your post count is too low, post more often :study:An isomer is a chemical variation, in lehmans terms, to the "real thing". Usually either a different olefin geometry (cis vs. trans isomers) or stereochemical isomers (enantiomers, diastereomers, epimers, etc). Even though the change is very slight, the molecule becomes, essentially, 100% different even though the real thing vs. the isomer looks about the same.
And on a side note, that was/is the problem with all the bro chemists and the previous gen OTC steroids; it looks similar to XX steroid so that means it's gonna act like XX steroid.
wrong.
I joined a few years ago because some clown was calling me out on here when I wasn't even a member at the time. I was always kinda partial to bb.com (always ordered at NP or elsewhere though ) but now since I'm permabanned there, I obviously can't post.your post count is too low, post more often :study:
..I joined a few years ago because some clown was calling me out on here when I wasn't even a member at the time. I was always kinda partial to bb.com (always ordered at NP or elsewhere though ) but now since I'm permabanned there, I obviously can't post.
Hicks? Jkeith?..
my bad, ignore the pm then. I thought you just joined because on my treo, there is limited visability and one is all the user info is gone from view so I assumed you just jumped over here recently.
thats exactly why I come here. As a first year pharmacy student I blow everyone away when I know details about SERMs, AIs, and endogenous hormones before we learn about them. Keep it up guys!well it is certainly refreshing to see educated people share information like this :cheers:
Sweet deal! Do you have any thoughts on the popular otc AI's: trione (6oxo), 6bromo, ATD, formestane?thats exactly why I come here. As a first year pharmacy student I blow everyone away when I know details about SERMs, AIs, and endogenous hormones before we learn about them. Keep it up guys!
1st year pharm students likely won't discuss this in great length, if ever at all.Sweet deal! Do you have any thoughts on the popular otc AI's: trione (6oxo), 6bromo, ATD, formestane?
Truth? I didn't think there was anyone left that spoke the truth period, period.Hicks? Jkeith?