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  1. Would someone fill me in on why Thermolife is likeable? I've looked at their formulas multiple times and they all just seem underdosed and overpriced - what the hell am I missing? I know they've got a frigging cult over on BB.com, but I just don't see what the fuss is about.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by matthias7 View Post
    4. Lack of hyper-links in AM sigs
    ... Better stop whinging!!!!
    Funny, your sig is not hyperlinked yet you complain about it.
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Resolve View Post
    Would someone fill me in on why Thermolife is likeable? I've looked at their formulas multiple times and they all just seem underdosed and overpriced - what the hell am I missing? I know they've got a frigging cult over on BB.com, but I just don't see what the fuss is about.
    well, as far as i know they actually have 95% divinal in their products, unlike DS's only 5%. this is the rumor i am not making the claims. you get what you pay for i guess.

    seen t-bol blood work logs proving it works well.

    ive done dicana with multiple cycles and loved it. expensive but works.
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  4. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    well, as far as i know they actually have 95% divinal in their products, unlike DS's only 5%. this is the rumor i am not making the claims. you get what you pay for i guess.
    Meh, I've seen their reps go all over the place on that subject. Even claim that it is only a 97% urtica dioica extract and never implies that there is 97% Divanil in it, that the divanil content is probably much lower than that. But that's not what the label says...
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  5. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    i dont really hate them, i just dont like how the top goes about their business. they have become like musletech alot.

    just be honest, and sell the stuff for what it is, not some freaking miracle killer stuff.

    they make stuff that works, but their advertisements give the supp industry a bad rep.

    the recent thing was OEP, i did it for 3 weeks and it seems like people dont like how i criticize it. they are coming out like its some killer new ephedra, but its really a mild fat burner. get some geranium/caffeine and anything to stimulate the thyroid and you get the same effects, minus the hunger OEP gave me.

    plus there is 600 5 star crazy rating on the OEP page that were posted before the product even came out, most make OEP to be some straight miracle. its obvious imo that OEP secret agents went there and posted those high ratings on the products page. what a scam and shame.

    Well its good to see that you have your own opinion based on experience. I mean we both agree that MST and Anabolic Innovations are underrated we just disagree on USP which in my opinion is excellent. I mean i think Universal's Animal ads are ridiculous and misleading on how they have this 270-300lb beast saying all he needs is animal pak and flex and he is good to go squat 600lbs for 15 reps. And when it comes to their general advertising, the company itself i feel mirror's muscletech or BSN in putting . I took many of the animal products and personally i feel they pale in comparison to my experiences on USP supps. MAN is another company that i was not impressed with and thermolife all ive tried is their ecdy and it did nothing for me.

    Personally, based on my experience, every USP supp i have tried did as it reported. Prime and powerfull busted all my records...and not by 5 or 10lb but more like up to 70lbs(squat) in 10 week period. So do I hype the company? No...i just lay out my results and people interpret it as hype. When i tried OEP, you felt it was a mild fat burner, while i had never felt anything like it and mind u i have tried quite a few.

    The fact you have a contrary opinion is just how the cookie crumbles. The only supplement that is guaranteed to affect everyone equally is gear, besides that i dont think ppl can expect similar gains/results on herbal extracts.


    Thus the truth behind the saying "to each his own"
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  6. Well in my opinion anything with a brand name... All about the Bulks BABY!

    Nothing compares: Make your own, only way to know what your really getting.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    i dont really hate them, i just dont like how the top goes about their business. they have become like musletech alot.

    just be honest, and sell the stuff for what it is, not some freaking miracle killer stuff.

    they make stuff that works, but their advertisements give the supp industry a bad rep.

    the recent thing was OEP, i did it for 3 weeks and it seems like people dont like how i criticize it. they are coming out like its some killer new ephedra, but its really a mild fat burner. get some geranium/caffeine and anything to stimulate the thyroid and you get the same effects, minus the hunger OEP gave me.

    plus there is 600 5 star crazy rating on the OEP page that were posted before the product even came out, most make OEP to be some straight miracle. its obvious imo that OEP secret agents went there and posted those high ratings on the products page. what a scam and shame.
    Gotta agree here, I Love my Jacked, but their advertising really gets under your skin. Like you said it gives an Industry with a bad name already, a worse one. Just say what it is, not miracles.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by ProteinMurder View Post
    Gotta agree here, I Love my Jacked, but their advertising really gets under your skin. Like you said it gives an Industry with a bad name already, a worse one. Just say what it is, not miracles.


    haha but what if it feels like a miracle? I could have sworn when i took 3 scoops of Jack3d that angels from heaven came down and gave me a spot on squat and bench....it was surreal i tell you!
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by GoHardOrGoHme View Post
    haha but what if it feels like a miracle? I could have sworn when i took 3 scoops of Jack3d that angels from heaven came down and gave me a spot on squat and bench....it was surreal i tell you!
    Lol, I hear ya mate. I do LOVE my Jacked, especially on an empty stomach, whooooa mumma.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Resolve View Post
    Would someone fill me in on why Thermolife is likeable? I've looked at their formulas multiple times and they all just seem underdosed and overpriced - what the hell am I missing? I know they've got a frigging cult over on BB.com, but I just don't see what the fuss is about.
    Cbol is legit, its got its own nitrate bond...
    doing my own thang!

  11. Quote Originally Posted by andrew732 View Post
    Cbol is legit, its got its own nitrate bond...
    How does that help?

    Edit: NM, did some research...
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by p5sky View Post
    Funny, your sig is not hyperlinked yet you complain about it.
    Exactly - that is what I am complaining about.

  13. anabolic innovations/mst/appnut/Man/cl all have great products i really like.

    but everyone already knows that!

    if i were to name a company that is truly under-rated it would have to be goliath!
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  14. Quote Originally Posted by AK32408 View Post
    All of those sales are from uninformed consumers that believe the claims and a lot of times don't do any further research on supplements. I still have friends that are convinced that MuscleTech is the be all and end all of supplements, even when I try to tell them how it really is, lol.

    ...
    I know all that, however, they are worried about sales period. And. at that game, they are king or at least in the ring with the kings. No one breathing can deny that.

  15. We absolutely LOVE all the positive comments about Anabolic Innovations!

    Everything we do, we do with the customer in mind. And based on this thread it looks like people are starting to notice.

    Thanks everyone.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by p5sky View Post
    Funny, your sig is not hyperlinked yet you complain about it.
    Thanks for the tip. I'll retract my complaint.

    BB shipping costs, UK taxation on imports and domestic supplements costs gripes still remain. :

    Wish I could just click a few buttons and they would disappear! Well actually with BB you can, buy Nutra instead

  17. Quote Originally Posted by matthias7 View Post
    Thanks for the tip. I'll retract my complaint.

    BB shipping costs, UK taxation on imports and domestic supplements costs gripes still remain. :

    Wish I could just click a few buttons and they would disappear! Well actually with BB you can, buy Nutra instead
    I would buy Nutra if they carried the LG products I am waiting for: Postal and Natadrol
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  18. Quote Originally Posted by matthias7 View Post
    Similar to above.

    Great companies/ under-rated:
    1. Millenium Sports (at the moment tomorrow it might change)
    2. Primordial P.
    3. Anabolic Innovations (joint 3rd with USP)
    3. USPlabs - my gripe is low stock of USP powders
    5. NutraPlanet powders - very underrated indeed
    6. IBE - X-Dream is an excellent product
    7. CEL - formestane - can make it from NutraPowders (have not done it yet)
    8. LG Science - some cool stuff. Important in post-ban anabolics era
    9. Controlled labs - Orange Triad is a good product no question
    10. APPNUT - I'll be running their stuff later this year. Important in post-ban anabolic era. I've not run their stuff to date though.

    Big Products yet to be released
    * The big product is USPLabs new muscle cap.
    * PP's "Muscle Feeder System". Whats that all about? They are very hush hush.
    * AI might hit it off with an adaptogen "remix"
    * LG's Natadrol. Okay its released but I'm curious
    * APPNUT - expectations for this year chatting to Rosie

    Best AM Reps
    1. Annobolic Innovations - hands down both in sponsorship and reps. Formidible team
    2. USPLabs, Strategic. Mullet hasn't been around for ages.
    3. IBE - AK32408 above
    4. APPNUT - Rosie single-handedly holds the ship (successfully)
    5. Millenium - CTDeuce and BN
    6. PP - Eric isn't bad, Trauma has disappeared - actually he hasn't. UKStrength has gone quiet since joining.
    7. LG - Irish Cannon! Without Irish things are quiet
    8. Axis Labs - earlier in the thread. Never used their product but have in stock

    No thrills:
    1. NOW

    Overrated:
    1. International shipment costs of BB - utterly terrible
    2. Anything bought within the UK 'cause of the mark up in price. The only exception is PP's stuff. Might due to UKStrength dunno
    3. UK customs and tax, cost me $$$
    4. Lack of hyper-links in AM sigs
    ... Better stop whinging!!!!
    we have a new product coming out in 4 weeks
    Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    Way Overrated, and im basing this heavily on all their BULL ads they place to brainwash society.
    USP Labs
    Muscle Tech
    gaspari
    USP Labs (yeah, twice why not?)
    LG Sciences
    Muscle Milk
    almost everything at GNC that people in my gym talk about
    USP Labs

    underated and under appreciated (in real life anyways)
    MST
    anobolic inovations
    RPN
    Universal
    MAN
    Thermolife
    where do we fall on the list?

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Resolve View Post
    Would someone fill me in on why Thermolife is likeable? I've looked at their formulas multiple times and they all just seem underdosed and overpriced - what the hell am I missing? I know they've got a frigging cult over on BB.com, but I just don't see what the fuss is about.
    i have tried thermolife a few times e-bol so so and over priced.
    i love t-bol best tribublus i have ever used and i have used 5 or 6 defferent kinds.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by CONTROLLED LABS View Post
    we have a new product coming out in 4 weeks

    where do we fall on the list?
    you guys fall in underrated in my opinion. there is only one or two of your products at my local shop, that's it! I know they have white flood, but dont remember the other he stocks.

    you guys always fall on my list, if i missed ya in mine, i apologize haha

  21. Quote Originally Posted by GoHardOrGoHme View Post
    haha but what if it feels like a miracle? I could have sworn when i took 3 scoops of Jack3d that angels from heaven came down and gave me a spot on squat and bench....it was surreal i tell you!
    Awesome - I've got an unopened container of Jack3d just waiting to be used.

    I think I'll start it this week!


  22. Quote Originally Posted by CONTROLLED LABS View Post
    we have a new product coming out in 4 weeks

    where do we fall on the list?

    Who are you guys again??

    Haha i kid, i kid!! I think its pretty well known u guys got some legit products. NO BS just old school basics that work....havent tried purple wrath....need to get me a tub...
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  23. IMO most over rated underdosed and far far away overpriced products- LA MUSCLE...

  24. I think Usp labs is starting to get up there in popularity, recognition. I didnt even KNOW about Primordial Performance untill I joined this forum and after doin much research they've become #1 in my book. Its just a matter of time before Primordial Performance hits it "big time" and starts advertising in the magazines, wich is great. They need to know about this company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by matthias7 View Post
    Similar to above.

    Great companies/ under-rated:
    1. Millenium Sports (at the moment tomorrow it might change)
    2. Primordial P.
    3. Anabolic Innovations (joint 3rd with USP)
    3. USPlabs - my gripe is low stock of USP powders
    5. NutraPlanet powders - very underrated indeed
    6. IBE - X-Dream is an excellent product
    7. CEL - formestane - can make it from NutraPowders (have not done it yet)
    8. LG Science - some cool stuff. Important in post-ban anabolics era
    9. Controlled labs - Orange Triad is a good product no question
    10. APPNUT - I'll be running their stuff later this year. Important in post-ban anabolic era. I've not run their stuff to date though.

    Big Products yet to be released
    * The big product is USPLabs new muscle cap.
    * PP's "Muscle Feeder System". Whats that all about? They are very hush hush.
    * AI might hit it off with an adaptogen "remix"
    * LG's Natadrol. Okay its released but I'm curious
    * APPNUT - expectations for this year chatting to Rosie

    Best AM Reps
    1. Annobolic Innovations - hands down both in sponsorship and reps. Formidible team
    2. USPLabs, Strategic. Mullet hasn't been around for ages.
    3. IBE - AK32408 above
    4. APPNUT - Rosie single-handedly holds the ship (successfully)
    5. Millenium - CTDeuce and BN
    6. PP - Eric isn't bad, Trauma has disappeared - actually he hasn't. UKStrength has gone quiet since joining.
    7. LG - Irish Cannon! Without Irish things are quiet
    8. Axis Labs - earlier in the thread. Never used their product but have in stock

    No thrills:
    1. NOW

    Overrated:
    1. International shipment costs of BB - utterly terrible
    2. Anything bought within the UK 'cause of the mark up in price. The only exception is PP's stuff. Might due to UKStrength dunno
    3. UK customs and tax, cost me $$$
    4. Lack of hyper-links in AM sigs
    ... Better stop whinging!!!!
    Cheers for the support mate! I agree, since I've started repping my support for PP is getting spread more 'thinly'. However, AM.com is where it all began for me so I shall make a concerted effort to be on here more often. You know you can always reach me by PM as well

    Did you know that our European Stockist 'Predator Nutrition' stock our complete range mate? (link in my signature) They're based in Leeds and have a huge range of international brands (just about every company who's posted on here funnily enough!).

    BTW if you're coming to BodyPower 2010 in Birmingham, I'll be repping for Primordial Performance there so make sure you come and say 'hi'!

    Oh and my list:

    Highly Rated:

    1. Applied Nutriceuticals
    2. Controlled Labs
    3. Olimp
    4. RPN
    5. IForce Nutrition

    Overrated:

    1. Maximuscle
    2. LA Muscle
    3. MuscleTech
    4. PhD
    5. CNP (Dorian Yates)

  26. Quote Originally Posted by UKStrength View Post

    Overrated:

    1. Maximuscle
    2. LA Muscle
    3. MuscleTech
    4. PhD
    5. CNP (Dorian Yates)
    there is no cutting on yates i have never used 1 of his products but he is a god.if he tells you to like it you better

  27. Quote Originally Posted by CONTROLLED LABS View Post
    we have a new product coming out in 4 weeks

    where do we fall on the list?
    definitely under-rated, but in no particular order
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    Quote Originally Posted by wedlund6 View Post
    there is no cutting on yates i have never used 1 of his products but he is a god.if he tells you to like it you better
    Mate, Dorian doesn't even use those products. He doesn't own the company, he just has his name on the bottle so people will buy it.

    The whole range is very overpriced for what they are, much better alternatives available.

  29. Quote Originally Posted by UKStrength View Post
    Mate, Dorian doesn't even use those products. He doesn't own the company, he just has his name on the bottle so people will buy it.

    The whole range is very overpriced for what they are, much better alternatives available.
    SARCASM

  30. Quote Originally Posted by nynone View Post
    you guys fall in underrated in my opinion. there is only one or two of your products at my local shop, that's it! I know they have white flood, but dont remember the other he stocks.

    you guys always fall on my list, if i missed ya in mine, i apologize haha
    Quote Originally Posted by GoHardOrGoHme View Post
    Who are you guys again??

    Haha i kid, i kid!! I think its pretty well known u guys got some legit products. NO BS just old school basics that work....havent tried purple wrath....need to get me a tub...
    Quote Originally Posted by ax1 View Post
    definitely under-rated, but in no particular order
    haha, thanks guys, we appreciate the recognition
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