PreMax vs RagNOrok vs Standard
- 12-21-2009, 10:15 AM
PreMax vs RagNOrok vs Standard
For the last three weeks, I have been experimenting with a couple of new preworkout supplements. PreMax and RagNOrok Ultra verses my own preworkout ****tail. My standard preworkout ****tail consists of:
1 Scoop JP8
1 Scoop NOS Ether
2 Scoops Green Magnitude
I have used this protocol for several years with good success, however I would have to say that prefer either PreMax or RagNOrok Ultra to my standard. One of the biggest factors is taste. My standard tastes pretty bad and doesn’t provide nearly as good a pump as the other two.
10/10 RagNOrok Ultra, I tried the Blue Razz and it tastes great.
8/10 PreMax, not the best tasting but tolerable. I usually add a little Vitaberry for flavor.
4/10 Standard, as I said it tastes pretty bad it is only the Green Magnitude that makes it tolerable.
10/10 RagNOrok Ultra, great pumps that last for several hours after the workout.
10/10 PreMax, the same as RagNOrok Ultra.
9/10 Standard, pumps are good but not as good as the other two.
10/10 All three seem to be good in this area with no discernible difference.
10/10 Here again, based on treadmill running, no discernable difference.
I have currently abandoned my standard in favor of either RagNOrok Ultra and/or PreMax. The primary difference between these two is the added stimulant. Since I workout primarily in the evenings, if I take two scoops of RagNOrok at 6:00 PM I have trouble sleeping at night. So on days when I feel like I need a boost I use RagNOrok and on days when I don’t I use PreMax.
These are early results since I have only been using both PreMax and RagNOrok for about three weeks. I want to evaluate Omega’s Ultima against both of these when it becomes available.
- 12-21-2009, 02:03 PM
- 12-21-2009, 02:07 PM
Premax still seems promising to me i havent tried RagNOrok but i would agree that your standard tastes pretty bad green mag is good but thats it. As of right now my PWO of choice is NO Shotgun love the pumps no crazy energy but i too work out in evening so dont like too much energy. Im seeing good initial reviews for PreMax and will probally pick it up once im done with NO Shotgun.
As far as RagNOrok goes is the energy comparable to Jack3d? Because i crashed pretty hard on jack3d but liked the energy.
EDIT: just hit 666 posts oooo spooky
12-21-2009, 02:14 PM
12-21-2009, 02:16 PM
Thanks for the kind words.
pre-max looks very promising, but I'll hafta wait until my 1serving size unit request goes through (well if it somehow goes through) to see if it's worth the cost (thats not supposed to be a bash either)
12-21-2009, 03:42 PM
12-21-2009, 03:42 PM
I buy all my own supps so I can "call um as I see um".
12-21-2009, 03:50 PM
12-21-2009, 04:23 PM
I would have to go with Ragnarok here. For one, the price difference and serving size should be enough to pick one. If using Rag late in the evening is keeping you awake, why not go for the caffeine free version?
12-21-2009, 04:36 PM
have you tried 1 scoop rag with half serving pre-max? seems both of them together at half your reg dose should be nice. would add more value to the pre-max too, imo.
12-21-2009, 05:21 PM
12-21-2009, 08:22 PM
pre max for taste is 8/10?..hummmm I still wanna try it! have to save up for it
12-21-2009, 08:35 PM
I wish I had the funds to run both! hahaha. I did like your review, honest...
12-21-2009, 08:40 PM
12-21-2009, 09:13 PM
12-22-2009, 08:01 AM
1. A good hard pump.
2. The addition of Rag (Blue Razz) improved the taste of PreMax and they mixed very well together.
3. One scoop of Rag provided just enough stim for a good workout and I slept great.
4. One scoop of Rag helped reduce the cost of a serving of PreMax.
The will be my new standard preworkout supp. I still want to try Ultima when it becomes available.
12-22-2009, 10:44 AM
12-22-2009, 11:30 AM
Hmmmm What do I buy now both or or... BBB you make it so hard....
Diet is always the key to unlocking the door of success
12-22-2009, 11:34 AM
12-22-2009, 01:13 PM
By blending the two you get 40 servings or Rag and 20 servings of PreMax, therefor two tubs of PreMax and one tub of Rag works out perfectly. The synergism conitues. For me this is a "no brainer". I don't know what I'll do if I really like Omega Ultra. It'll through me into a tail spin.
12-22-2009, 01:50 PM
12-22-2009, 01:59 PM
12-22-2009, 02:21 PM
I don't make a dime of any supp sold so do as you please. This thread is just for informational purposes only.
12-22-2009, 02:24 PM
lol @ c0cktail being edited.
12-22-2009, 03:26 PM
12-22-2009, 05:02 PM
12-22-2009, 08:41 PM
glad to see such high praise of RagNOrok Ultra in here....thanks for the honest and detailed mini-review brother!
01-05-2010, 04:35 PM
I have been scientifically experimenting with all three products attempting to keep both diet and workout as consistant as possible. After nearly 6 weeks of experimentation my origional review still stands. I have discovered that I actually like having several preworkout supps on hand as I tend to get tired of the flavor any single product. I have discovered that virtually all preworkout supps tend to loose effacy if used too often, in my case more than twice a week. The exception is GPLC based products, these seem to work consistantly no matter how often I use them. As far as taste RagNOrok Ultra wins hands down. My favorate is still one scoop of Rag and one scoop PreMax. I'm planning on trying Omega Ultima but I can't imagine that it will beat the PreMax/Rag combo. I have also discovered that all products must be taken on an MT stomach for maximum results this includes GPLC products as well. I usually eat my preworkout meal at least two hours prior to my preworkout supp.
01-05-2010, 04:49 PM
01-05-2010, 04:50 PM
I agree with you on the taste factor on pre-max. It's tolerable, but it needs a bit of something.
I add IBCAA, Beta-Alanine, and Creatine and it could be a factor of the taste too.
I love the pump I get from it!
01-05-2010, 05:05 PM
not to overpimp here, but we have citruvol on steep discount at NP, 2-4caps +1scoop rag = crazy pumps. You can go to the mst site and request samples as well, millenniumsport.net, click the samples tab, scroll through and select which you want. Just a thought....
01-06-2010, 02:38 AM
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Glad to hear that you're getting good results!
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01-06-2010, 02:30 PM
T1, did you pass on any sugg's to big easy (eric), about doing a 1 serving size option at NP? just to see the effects? Even if it takes a few servings for the product to really shine, I'd be a lot more comfortable if I could spend a few bucks to see what 1 serving does before droppin 50 on this (the price can be justified, I'd just like to try 1 serving first)
01-07-2010, 11:06 AM
Ultima reviews are stellar. It seems that everyone who has tried it liked it. In fact I can't find one detrimental review on this product; I therefore ordered a tub yesterday. However, since I also love the "pump" and Ultima was not designed for this purpose I also ordered some GPLC to take along with it, I'm hoping for the best of both worlds. Iím also experimenting with a stack consisting of Prime and Diesel Test. Iíve used both independently with modest results Iím hoping for some synergism between the two. Yes, I know I spend far too much money on supps but you guys can benefit from my extravagance. I will report on my experience with Ulitma in the next few weeks.
01-07-2010, 11:30 AM
As you can tell I am a big fan of preworkout supps. I have also tried many others, these include white blood and white flood both are OK but nothing stellar. I have use NO Xplode, NO Shotgun, PlasmaJet, L-Arginine, AAG, AKG, Glycerin, GlycerGrow (doesn't work for me) and many others to numerous to mention. All work to a lesser degree than those mention above.
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