Best caffeine free preworkout supp?
- 09-05-2009, 07:32 PM
- 09-05-2009, 07:56 PM
- 09-05-2009, 08:03 PM
Feel the true power of oxygen with the addition of MST's cordyceps, heh. (seriously)
09-05-2009, 08:24 PM
09-05-2009, 08:43 PM
09-05-2009, 10:03 PM
DominATP is my favorite.
09-05-2009, 11:11 PM
If you're only wanting to use ONE product, Cre-02 covers all the bases well enough.
If you don't mind using more than one product the following stack will give you great energy and focus (take 45 min pre-resistance training on an empty stomach!):
* ALCAR @ 2 grams
* Choline Bitartrate @ 1 gram
* Drive (as recommended on the label)
* IGF-2 (as recommended on the label)
* Tyrosine @ 1 gram
09-05-2009, 11:41 PM
I would deff recommend trying caff free Ragnarok... Ive used both versions and I can honestly say Ive never had the urge to try another pre workout supp after being on Rag
09-05-2009, 11:46 PM
Maniac only has 100g of caffeine per serving but is good for overall focus, its more of a focus pwo than a stim supp. I stack it with ALCAR, PLCAR, GLPC, and creatine monohydrate.
doing my own thang!
09-06-2009, 02:15 AM
09-06-2009, 02:19 AM
OOPS lol, 100mg not 100g LOL, sorry bout that, bit off today, LOL
doing my own thang!
09-06-2009, 08:20 AM
Animal pump take out the red pill son see the magic and feel the pumps!
Diet is always the key to unlocking the door of success
09-06-2009, 02:41 PM
Is creatine PWO really that noticeable? I have never tried any of the expensive creatine products like Cre-02 but if more people can get behind it this one might be a good choice, although the ragnarok includes an NO booster, hmmmm....
Last edited by ejl; 09-06-2009 at 02:49 PM. Reason: cause
09-06-2009, 03:27 PM
09-06-2009, 03:32 PM
telling you DominATP is where its at for a prework out just simple and basic stuff.
Dicreatine Malate 4500 mg
Beta Alanine 3000 mg
Leucine 5000 mg
Citrulline Malate 3500 mg
Agmatine Sulfate 500 mg
Stuff works for me just fine.
09-06-2009, 06:37 PM
I use DomainATP and like it, I combine with Essentials and joint complex, which I also use for post workout.
doing my own thang!
09-06-2009, 07:17 PM
09-07-2009, 04:56 AM
As for creatine pre-training, I mentioned in another thread that, since creatine is a muscle fuel, taking pre and/or during anaerobic and/or high-intensity intermittent training/exercise aids in energy for anaerobic activity and increases buffering of hydrogen ions during such exercise, etc. Taken post-training creatine aids in recovery, and co-ingestion of carbohydrates (which are essential after training) enhances the rate of absorption (Burke, et al., 2006; Green, MacDonald & Greenhaff, 1997).
Re the creatine, you will have to try and see for yourself. Everyone will have a protocol that works best for them specifically, since everyone is difference. Some people may only use creatine pre or only post training, and others will not use it at all (i.e. non-responders).
09-07-2009, 11:01 AM
Thanks for the post I guess it's true if I want to see how pwo creatine is I'll have to try it!
09-07-2009, 01:27 PM
is Ragnarok still in production? I can't find it anywhere..
09-08-2009, 12:55 PM
09-08-2009, 01:08 PM
I put my weight behind Cre02, or the new Green Bulge. If you require any sort of endurance, like HIIT, Crossfit, martial arts, etc, Cre02 is it. Nothing tops it. If you are strength oriented, say, a power-lifter, or on a bulk, use Green Bulge.
09-08-2009, 02:23 PM
Ive heard about a study that says pre workout caffiene cancels out creatine ?whaddya guys think?
09-08-2009, 03:47 PM
Axis Labs SLINGSHOT fits under this category very well. As does HemodrauliX.
09-08-2009, 04:39 PM
09-08-2009, 05:45 PM
I'm too strong for my own good. I won't even consume caffeine before my workouts, because the increased blood pressure activates hemoroidal(spelling) bleeding. Should I be afraid of cordyceps?
09-08-2009, 07:30 PM
u should get some reset ad if your getting use to stims and recharge my friend
09-08-2009, 07:36 PM
09-10-2009, 10:43 PM
09-11-2009, 07:24 AM
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