Vat Attack! By USPowders, Get Super Lean for Super Cheap! Write up and Q&A

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  1. MulletSoldier-
    Well then thanks for responding to my call earlier and also to my post!

    Bummer that it could have a negative effect to stack the two but I REALLY do appreciate your honesty! Also good to know that essentially you are saying that I have all that I need in the ReCreate!

    If it works on me, I'd be more than happy to spread the word on ReCreate to other "Moms"! In regards to marketing, you may want to consider targeting us Moms / women for increased sales...had I not walked into VitaminShoppe, I would have never heard about it.

    No actually, I googled ReCreate reviews and testimonials and after clicking on some other sites, somehow came across this one.

    Thanks again!


  2. Good luck!
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Welcome to the board! Believe it or not, but you and I spoke earlier today on the phone. A shot in the dark, but: did Googling 11B-HSD1 bring you to this site?

    In respects to Vat Attack! and ReCreate, though: Vat Attack! is actually a component of ReCreate, but it could certainly be used as a complimentary component for a more targeted, and specific, fat-loss approach; specifically, targeting adipose of the visceral type, down-regulating lipid and triglyceride forming processes, further negating cortisol-induced glucose metabolism abnormalities, and so on. This being said, Cortisol also plays vital role in the pathological function of the body, and so; diminishing it too much may be a negative thing! As ReCreate already contains a substantial amount of the extract otherwise known as Vat Attack!, I would be hesitant to stack the two!

    Mullet I am also going to be running Recreate but was thinking of adding a little VAT post or pre workout .. especially on very intense days. If very intense weight training causes an increase of cortisol would this be a good idea or do you think the Recreate still has me covered.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug

  4. Would it be ok to use this with something like Diiodothyronine? I am also currently on Lean Xtreme, I would stop LX then use VAT and Diiodothyronine then start back on Lean xtreme when done. Sound ok?

  5. How is everyone taking this in a shake? Just swallowing it?
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    How is everyone taking this in a shake? Just swallowing it?
    At first, I just swalled 1/4 of a tablespoon and chased it with some like juice or gatorade but the taste can be hard to handle it is horrific whn taken alone. I dose mine at 3 grams a day, once in the morning with a glass of milk and with my pre and post shakes. Hope this helps bro.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by wolverines View Post
    At first, I just swalled 1/4 of a tablespoon and chased it with some like juice or gatorade but the taste can be hard to handle it is horrific whn taken alone. I dose mine at 3 grams a day, once in the morning with a glass of milk and with my pre and post shakes. Hope this helps bro.

    Very true, by itself the stuff tastes like death.

  8. i took like 1/8 of teaspoon just to test it out. I think there is caffeine in it. I would suggest those that are sensitive to stims (like me) to take it in the morning, hehe.

    (Maybe of those 100 cups of expressos, they managed to remove 99 cups, which is not bad, i suppose)


    Quote Originally Posted by benj851 View Post
    Jacob answered the caffeine question here: New Special Powder by USPowders is???

    he said in post one:
    USPLABS: A natural selective NONHORMONAL inhibitor of the enzyme 11-B-hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase type 1.

    50% coffee extract which is the equivalent to drinking about 100 expressos without the caffiene.


    Who can name the hormonal inhibitior of the same enzyme?

  9. I've been doing the TP parachute with Vat, Carboxy and supersap..quick and tasteless

    Now based on Mullets comment above I'm wondering if I should drop the Recreate?

  10. Actually now that I look at some of my research USP LAbs six pack Vat Attack stack has AP, Recreate and Vat

    Maybe a rep could shed some light on this?

  11. When reading about cortisol and glucocorticoids, one can easily get the idea that they are bad. I have summer allergies and the doctor prescribed me some glucocorticoids (steroidal). They are helping me a ton, I don't see why people are trying to lower their levels of this stuff.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Delita420 View Post
    When reading about cortisol and glucocorticoids, one can easily get the idea that they are bad. I have summer allergies and the doctor prescribed me some glucocorticoids (steroidal). They are helping me a ton, I don't see why people are trying to lower their levels of this stuff.
    Because glucocorticoids have tissue-specific effects - that is, they effect different tissues differently. This point, relative to 11b-HSD1, was addressed in both the write-up and Q and A. In certain metabolically active tissues, glucocorticoids play necessary roles [Leydig Cells, for example] but in others they have less-desirable roles.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    Because glucocorticoids have tissue-specific effects - that is, they effect different tissues differently. This point, relative to 11b-HSD1, was addressed in both the write-up and Q and A. In certain metabolically active tissues, glucocorticoids play necessary roles [Leydig Cells, for example] but in others they have less-desirable roles.
    So there are good glucocorticoids and bad glucocorticoids?

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Delita420 View Post
    So there are good glucocorticoids and bad glucocorticoids?
    In a sense you could view it that way. It is more that glucocorticoids act differently in different tissues, and this is why "selective" cortisol inhibitors are important: selective too which isoenzyme they target [HSD1 or 2] and which tissues they target. Synthetic glucocorticoids like hydrocortisone also have different indications depending on the condition at hand, the type of inflammation within the condition, which tissue the condition is located in and so on. Really, it is a bit of a complex issue, which is why you more or less should privilege selective cortisol inhibitors, over non-selective ones.

  15. Tastes like dirt....

  16. Will this product be legal in Australia.?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Big Lee View Post
    Will this product be legal in Australia.?
    yes it's fine

  18. Has this product been discontinued? Don't see it in NutraPlanet's website?


    MANGO

  19. i dont think discounted is the right word. I believe jacob said when he brought this product to market it was only a limited run. I faintly remember him saying it could be brought back in another product down the road, but i could be wrong.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by freezito View Post
    i dont think discounted is the right word. I believe jacob said when he brought this product to market it was only a limited run. I faintly remember him saying it could be brought back in another product down the road, but i could be wrong.
    You are generally right!
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  21. I have a question. After reading a pamplet I saw I didn't realize that no explode could be the reason I have been stuck at 205 lbs after losing about 70 over the past 8 months. I stopped taking no explode and got some of your guys oxyelite pro. So far I have lost about 7lbs in a week which is crazy.

    basically my question is. Is this stuff better at losing the stubborn stomach fat I am trying to get rid of or should I stick with the oxyelite pro? Also I was wondering Does Jack3d cause you to gain weight? I want a pump, but I am really wanting to lose the weight and be cut more than gain weight and lift more.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Scotirish88 View Post
    I have a question. After reading a pamplet I saw I didn't realize that no explode could be the reason I have been stuck at 205 lbs after losing about 70 over the past 8 months. I stopped taking no explode and got some of your guys oxyelite pro. So far I have lost about 7lbs in a week which is crazy.

    basically my question is. Is this stuff better at losing the stubborn stomach fat I am trying to get rid of or should I stick with the oxyelite pro? Also I was wondering Does Jack3d cause you to gain weight? I want a pump, but I am really wanting to lose the weight and be cut more than gain weight and lift more.
    I am glad to read you are enjoying your OxyELITE Pro run. VAT Attack! is not currently in production, so it is not necessarily an option for you. Although VAT Attack! induces fat loss primarily via selective 11ß-HSD1 inhibition and the subsequent beneficial impact on visceral adipose tissue, OxyELITE Pro is overall superior to VAT Attack!, as it targets not just visceral adipose tissue, but also induces generalized and specific fat loss via a cascade of different pathways that include specific alpha-2 receptor inhibition (and alpha-1 adrenoceptor sparing), beneficial thyroid modulation (more T4 production as well as more T4-to-T3 conversion), beta-adrenoceptor agonism and targeted subcutaneous-fat reduction, and up-regulation of uncoupling-protein-1 expression (and brown-adipose-tissue recruitment). So, OxyELITE Pro should support the reduction of "stubborn stomach fat", while delivering fat loss in other areas.
    Product Educator | USPowders
    Statements made by this online persona are the sole property of the owner, and do not necessarily reflect USPowders’ opinion as a whole.

  23. Sweet thanks for the reply. Also One thing I am without a pump since I stopped taking NO Xplode. If I started Taking Jacked Would it stop me from losing weight in fat? Basically I want something to help me lift but not gain too much fat weight.

  24. how will this stack against Endoamp Max?

  25. Quote Originally Posted by JN230 View Post
    how will this stack against Endoamp Max?
    All I can say not having tried endoamp is that Vat Attack has major effect on your appearance giving you a much narrower waste.
    Unremarkable is no way to go through life... Doug
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