I've triedwith various different things. by itself its a solid preworkout product for me, it keeps me going... if I don't need a stim to rock out in the gym. normally I'd take two scoops and two scoops after. then I've tried it with the free refresh that came with it. now I've taken alot of sh*t in my day but these are by far the worst tasting pills I'll ever tried. but I have to say that while they dont make we wanna go rip someone's head off, like jacked, refresh seems to give me a nice I'm here, and I can focus, and keep going feeling. when I take refresh and together I seem to be able to go a little further in the gym than with DominATP by itself.
What I normally do though is a fasted weight training and cardio workout everyday, with just a crap load of BCAA's so this supp (dominatp) fits in perfectly and gives me some creatine at the same time. I normally use 3s dominatp, 2s , 1s , 2s jack'd. But I like to have the power to keep going in the gym and I'm on ckd so it's kinda hard to get psyched up for the gym.
DominATP has definitely made a difference when I added it to my stack, primarily from the creatine, high levels of beta Alaine, and high levels of luciene. seems to be able to give me more energy and stamina than my orginal stack, same as above but without the dominatp.
The refresh that came with it I take later in the day, or if I'm hungover with some vitamins seems to help... but again that pill is fricken nasty! Where refresh really earned it's weight with me was when I was taking my finals I popped three pills an hour before each final because it made me focus in the gym...and it actually helped me focus on my tests, lol me focused go figure! that alone is worth me choking down the pill and actually forking out some money to pay for refresh if it ever does hit the market. I could see it costing 15-20.
If you want a great stim free pre/wo supp try dominatp if you need more power and length to your wo try dominatp. basically you can't go wrong with it, it's not to much money tastes pretty good on its own but blends great with lemon jacked lemon and lemon lol.
if you wanna focus or be able to keep paying attention long after you normally do try the refresh, it works for me at least, but good god that pill is nasty no matter how much water I chug them with... no offense to usplabs, I love your products. They are pretty solid.
btw here are the ingredients.
DominATP Powerhouse Profile:
Schzandrin 15% 500mgs
Gynostemma 98% gypenosides 300mgs
Bacopa (40% bacosides)200mgs
Terristris(extracted for tribulosin) 1250mgs
3 cap serving size
courtesy of stevoph in this thread: USPowders' DominATP + FREE Refresh...Only 100 Available and Disappearing Fast!
All in all DominATP is another solid product from USPowders/Labs, especially because I have bought 4 bottles of DominATP now, I really would recommend it to anyone that wants to be able to keep going further in the gym.