Heat Shock Proteins the real deal?

[capnsavem]

ok, so i've only noticed two companies promoting HSP products (MuscleTech and MRI)... is this a legit breakthrough in musclebuilding supp technology?

i was reading up on MRI's claims on this technology, and these HSPs are functional proteins that are generated inside your body, meaning that they aren't dietary proteins (whey protein, for example)...?

i don't fully understand it... can anyone shed some light on HSPs?

[panther77]

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[djbombsquad]

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[mixedup]

can't shed any light but *** also has there own house brand of HSP and a book explaining some of the benefits Also seen an article in the last mens fitness I believe talking about HSP no brand in particular

[Steveoph]

Lol... oh heat shock proteins. Anybody here study molecular biology? This will bring back some good memories.

I'm not quite sure what sort of heat shock proteins they are putting in; however I imagine it would be quite expensive to isolate and extract HSPs. Not to mention when taken orally, proteins would get degraded to their constituent amino acids and lose any pre-existing structure-function unless MT somehow protects them from degradation. Without seeing their claims, it sounds like marketing BS.

[simmons]

Lol... oh heat shock proteins. Anybody here study molecular biology? This will bring back some good memories.

I'm not quite sure what sort of heat shock proteins they are putting in; however I imagine it would be quite expensive to isolate and extract HSPs. Not to mention when taken orally, proteins would get degraded to their constituent amino acids and lose any pre-existing structure-function unless MT somehow protects them from degradation. Without seeing their claims, it sounds like marketing BS.

Hello, stranger.


MuscleTech, marketing BS?!!!?? What?!! Never!

[pinchharmonic]

i think *** gives 100% money back guarantee to any products. so if it doesn't "add mass directly to your arms and chest", you can at least get your $50 back.

[ctAL]

i heard that new MRI HSP Active makes you SWEAT like crazy.

[Esox Express]

i heard that new MRI HSP Active makes you SWEAT like crazy.

Well if it's anything like Myo Shock it would be because it contains a **** load of caffeine. I think MyoShock has like 400mg per serving or something like that.

EDIT: Never mind, I just checked the Supp Facts on MRI. No stims.

[Dagron]

Anything that puts stress a LOT of stress on the body upregulates HSP. Caffeine (400 mg) is an accepted and proven way to do this (as in the *** and MT products), however, it is my understanding that this wouldnt do a thing for muscle growth as HSP's do more than just aid in converting dietary protein and aminos to muscle tissue, they are also used to mitigate stress (you know, like the stress your caffeine just caused?)

MRI's HSP active is basically prickly pear extract. The idea there was to extract the portion that boosts HSP from the fiber (which blocks absorption of the active). Makes sense and all. They even have clinicals proving that it indeed did increase HSP expression in trained athletes. Fantastic, right? Well MRI never funded any clinicals on changes in body composition or fat loss as a result of this increased HSP expression and I think that's hardly coincidental.

Bottom line, until proven otherwise HSP supplements are to muscle building as tribulus is to test boosting.

[ctAL]

good info Dagron

seems to be all HYPE marketing at the moment........

[capnsavem]

thanks Dagron. i hear what you're saying.

Steveoph, it wasn't supplementing HSPs in a dietary nature, it was using something to "activate" HSPs already existing in the body, so to speak.

[fightbackhxc]

my friend did a log where he would sit in a hot tub for 20 minutes after workouts to activate these HSP. I think they can only be activated at a certain temperature. I was not aware caffiene did this. any studies?

[capnsavem]

my friend did a log where he would sit in a hot tub for 20 minutes after workouts to activate these HSP. I think they can only be activated at a certain temperature. I was not aware caffiene did this. any studies?

did he get any results?

[fightbackhxc]

he had to quit early because he got injured and had to take a break from working out for awhile i think. Let me see if I can find his log if not ill ask him where he has it at.

[capnsavem]

cool thanks

[jp17815]

ok, so i've only noticed two companies promoting HSP products (MuscleTech and MRI)... is this a legit breakthrough in musclebuilding supp technology?

i was reading up on MRI's claims on this technology, and these HSPs are functional proteins that are generated inside your body, meaning that they aren't dietary proteins (whey protein, for example)...?

i don't fully understand it... can anyone shed some light on HSPs?

Not really sure of the science in it.
But I did use Myoshock.
And yes, it does give a really good, almost painful pump. "In a good way"
It will cause you to sweat like crazy.
The only things that I did not like with it was an upset stomach after lifting.
Also eating 7 horse pills sucked.
But it did work.

JP.

[fightbackhxc]

i really would not suggest buying anything muscle tech makes.

[jp17815]

i really would not suggest buying anything muscle tech makes.

Yea.
I'm not a big fan of them.
But it does work if you can handle the sides.
There is better pre supps out there for sure.
Also I was not too happy of the *** price tag.

JP.

[fightbackhxc]

Here is that Log

He had to quit because the hot tub broke at his gym. Go ahead and give it a read it might enlighten you.

http://abcbodybuilding.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=90309