Best non-Pro-hormone Muscle builder...
- 05-10-2009, 10:11 AM
Best non-Pro-hormone Muscle builder...
Hey guys I've been lifting for awhile now and want to try to increase my gains and recovery but don't want to try prohormones yet becasue they kinda scare me... I know that there are alot of products out there like, Phyto-Test,Stoked!, just to name a few, I'm sure theres like a thousand different types...
I've read a bunch of reviews on here, please don't let it turn into a bash fest. I just want to know what you think is the best, and how it worked for you.
PLEASE give me some feedback, but don't try to ruin one company or another, I just want to know what worked and if you'd try it again, and why you liked it please.
Thanks for all your feedback.
- 05-10-2009, 11:44 AM
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05-10-2009, 01:45 PM
Squats and deadlifts (more than any other exercise) cause a natural boost of testosterone and HGH in the body, the testosterone is released and put into the blood stream and travels through the whole body causing hypertrophy.
Supplements, when I say this I mean NO supplement will give you the same gains as a high protein / high carb / low fat diet with lots of water.
As far as supplements go, I like using creatine monohydrate, whey protein, muscle milk, and an animal-pak multi-vitamin.
Make a routine around squats and deadlifts and watch how your poundages increase. Google "Starting Strength", it's an excellent mass building program.
05-10-2009, 01:48 PM
05-10-2009, 02:08 PM
I'm researching the prime right now, it seems a little fishy but I won't argue the guys saying it works good and their gains. :-)
Afterall, experience is better than opinion.
05-10-2009, 02:45 PM
orginal poster, youre not alone.............screwin with hormones scares me alo. i just turned 24 may 6th ive been tempted/curious many times but you really have to know what youre doing including PCT.
for me, eating good, training hard, multi vitamin, creatine, bcaa an whey isolate.
05-10-2009, 03:26 PM
Figure out how to gain without and the "with" will be that much better!
Always open light. Itís not what you open with, itís what you finish with. Louie Simmons
05-11-2009, 06:40 PM
umm..muscle builders; obviously whole foods , alot of protein , which was already stated, but as for supps. i would go with sizeon, works really good for me. Not a big fan of mono creatine because i hold alot of water weight as were CEE not much. You might get more strength with mono but im a bodybuilder, not a powerlifter
The weight loss after getting off mono takes a toll on me psychologically
05-11-2009, 09:22 PM
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05-27-2009, 09:35 PM
Swole Stack has been very good for me. No hormone items
Sleep Supplement 3Z BCAA: Red Raspberry and Lemon flavors
HGH/sleep enhancer: HGHpro
Test Booster: TestoPRO and STOKED!
Preworkout: MANIAC Fruit Punch and Pink Lemonade
05-27-2009, 09:46 PM
green magnitude and cyto gainer are blowing me up, obviously with lots of whole food too and compound movements.
Im 27 have run cycles before and I regret ever using any of them , I really do.
Anyone else notice that when your on cycle you almost start to look older. I get bags under my eyes and just look run down.
Creatine and food
05-27-2009, 09:49 PM
agreed...squats lots of food..... Im on PRIME right now....i have set two PRs on bench....but 5 lbs more each time.....nothing crazy....
So far im not super impressed with PRIME.....i get the shizzts from it for some reason... (i think its the chebella or w/e its called) plus its expensive...the bottle probablt wont last me 3 weeks......
05-27-2009, 09:51 PM
05-27-2009, 10:01 PM
Pre: Mass Pump Stak
Eat enough at the right ratios. Get Animal Pak for your ED vitamin. ZMA and more Xtend before bed.
05-27-2009, 10:08 PM
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05-28-2009, 01:01 AM
besides food. id say its a toss up between creatine and beta alanine
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05-28-2009, 01:22 AM
I went to nutrashop and asked for a natural test booster that wont shut my system down and they recommended testanon. It was pricy at 79.99 but it has a tribulis like ingredient(puncture vine) in it that worked well for me. It is a natural test booster( not really a prohormone)so I figured I would mention it.
05-28-2009, 01:20 PM
05-28-2009, 01:35 PM
Prime is really good when stacking it with powerfull, ive been doing weight I've never done before this week on both...good stuff
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