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    This just in about 2 minutes ago and I had to share with my peers.

    I'm not promoting a product just informing that a herb we been studying anecdotally(logs) and through our affiliated universities in India contains a potent Anabolic that significantly increase strength.

    This product is lowering LH and testosterone but not suppressing it while increasing strength significantly....really cool finding but time to isolate and concentrate...

    I am stacking with PRIME and it is interesting....To bad a 90 count bottle currently costs 175 dollars to use at the acitve dose. We will refine this down and maybe one day come to market but for know it is a lofty vision.

    If we release this it will be waaaayyyy down the road but Nature is full of anabolic compounds we just have to associate ourselves with the right people and companies and the innovation is without limits.

    Cool how USPlabs has come from a team of one that did the research to a team of many from universities, biotech firms, and research pharmacists that are interested in natural medicine...

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    interesting but holy crap at that price tag
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanbane View Post
    I LOLed

    We plan on running blood panels on a steroid found in nature if ever released along with a university study.....Hell we did over 20 panels with PRIME.

    The synthetic route is easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanbane View Post
    I LOLed

    Me too...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanbane View Post
    Your bizarre obsession of following me(USPlabs threads) around the internet is very uncomfortable.

    Posting in USPlabs related threads opens the company you represent to scrutiny....Just let this sh!t die and mind your attention to AN.

    USPlabs Reps are on board to educate. You seem to enjoy sparking school girl drama.

    O well, a leader you are not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USPLabs View Post
    Your bizarre obsession of following me(USPlabs threads) around the internet is very uncomfortable.

    Posting in USPlabs related threads opens the company you represent to scrutiny....Just let this sh!t die and mind your attention to AN.

    USPlabs Reps are on board to educate. You seem to enjoy sparking school girl drama.

    O well, a leader you are not.
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    Although I don't really see the purpose of the original post in the thread by USP, I do have to sympathize with USP in this case. You do seem to show up often and rip on USP, for really no reason. You could of just as easily not posted anything and went about your business.

    Honestly, and I'm not proud to admit it, but thats the one thing that's kept me from trying a single one of AN's products. Other an Easy (who happens to be very informative and helpful from what I can see)...your reps are flat out annoying. I'm hardpressed to find a thread where someone is asking supplement advice and an AN rep(s) comes floating in pimping drive and RPM. It's really no different than how MuscleTech is all over magazines. Yeah...I guess in a sense it's their job, but it's overdone. I digress, I just had to say that. I was annoyed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    Me too...
    I fail to see how this is constructive or additive to the discussion in anyway, IL. It appears Jacob posted this information for discussion, rather than abasement and sarcasm; I can also personally attest to the contention that this product's development is very longitudinal in nature: alpha testing has only commenced recently, so this is not a "hype" thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lanbane
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    Interesting response, though much more indicative of your general level of professionalism than Jacob's. Given the admittedly frayed history between our companies, I deliberately shy away from AN and AN-related threads; and, in the odd circumstance I do contribute to such a thread, my commentary is courteous and empirically-based. Apparently, reciprocity in tact is not something that, at the very least, you promote in your interactions with other companies.

    Challenging of conduct and concepts is the peculiar characteristic of intelligent discussion; while, on the other hand, baseless sarcasm is the peculiar characteristic of drama-fodder. Why either of you would choose to promote the latter in opposition to the former is beyond me. Rather than respond to this post antagonistically and spitefully, let us just accord each other's statements with a certain amount of respectful consideration, and move on from childish conduct. Agreed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BurghHardcore View Post
    Although I don't really see the purpose of the original post in the thread by USP, I do have to sympathize with USP in this case. You do seem to show up often and rip on USP, for really no reason. You could of just as easily not posted anything and went about your business.

    Honestly, and I'm not proud to admit it, but thats the one thing that's kept me from trying a single one of AN's products. Other an Easy (who happens to be very informative and helpful from what I can see)...your reps are flat out annoying. I'm hardpressed to find a thread where someone is asking supplement advice and an AN rep(s) comes floating in pimping drive and RPM. It's really no different than how MuscleTech is all over magazines. Yeah...I guess in a sense it's their job, but it's overdone. I digress, I just had to say that. I was annoyed.

    This thread is taken a turn for the worst due to lack of professionalism.

    The USPlabs team is based around product innovation(which I was trying to ellude to with this thread. A natural steroid has never been discovered so we are on brink of something special) and concentrating on growing our business through product/consumer education.

    We never drop silly one liners in a competitors thread. The competitors love to drop them in our thread and that is just validation of our success.

    We do not enjoy but accept it as proof of being relevant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BurghHardcore View Post
    Although I don't really see the purpose of the original post in the thread by USP, I do have to sympathize with USP in this case. You do seem to show up often and rip on USP, for really no reason. You could of just as easily not posted anything and went about your business.

    Honestly, and I'm not proud to admit it, but thats the one thing that's kept me from trying a single one of AN's products. Other an Easy (who happens to be very informative and helpful from what I can see)...your reps are flat out annoying. I'm hardpressed to find a thread where someone is asking supplement advice and an AN rep(s) comes floating in pimping drive and RPM. It's really no different than how MuscleTech is all over magazines. Yeah...I guess in a sense it's their job, but it's overdone. I digress, I just had to say that. I was annoyed.
    I was going to simply roll over all of this but, honestly, are you kidding me?

    No, seriously, would you admit to just be joking at the very least?
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    I don't get the point of this thread. Just seems like pre-hyping a product which will probably come to market miraculously sooner than expected and offered at such a great price, but act now because supplies are limited......
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    Quote Originally Posted by USPLabs View Post
    This thread is taken a turn for the worst due to lack of professionalism.

    The USPlabs team is based around product innovation(which I was trying to ellude to with this thread. A natural steroid has never been discovered so we are on brink of something special) and concentrating on growing our business through product/consumer education.

    We never drop silly one liners in a competitors thread. The competitors love to drop them in our thread and that is just validation of our success.

    We do not enjoy but accept it as proof of being relevant.
    professionalism is the key word usplabs and all of their reps are always professional especially Mullet and Jacob Dont let the haters get you down
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebo View Post
    I don't get the point of this thread. Just seems like pre-hyping a product which will probably come to market miraculously sooner than expected and offered at such a great price, but act now because supplies are limited......

    Always a possibility.......
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebo View Post
    I don't get the point of this thread. Just seems like pre-hyping a product which will probably come to market miraculously sooner than expected and offered at such a great price, but act now because supplies are limited......
    yea it could be hype or it could be a breakthrough product added to the list of other great usp products but without promotion who would know about it and it sounded to me like a topic for discussion for something that might be available down the road regardless i dont see why people are attacking usplabs over a post informing us of a possible breakthrough product it just seems malicious IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmillz224 View Post
    yea it could be hype or it could be a breakthrough product added to the list of other great usp products but without promotion who would know about it and it sounded to me like a topic for discussion for something that might be available down the road regardless i dont see why people are attacking usplabs over a post informing us of a possible breakthrough product it just seems malicious IMO
    I guess I could of posted Obamas state of the union speech in the supplement section.
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    No hardknock. I'm not joking at all. Which is unfortunate. As I stated, I'm not proud of it, or gloating about that fact in any way. People react different to different stimuli, I guess that I just don't react well to AN reps.

    Lots of people don't buy MuscleTech (for lots of obvious reasons lol), but one popular reason is their marketing approach. From what I see on here the same can be said about USP, but to a lesser degree. It TURNS THEM OFF, much the same way AN reps turn me off. Sorry to have disappointed you bro with my take on the situation.

    Either way I certainly didn't post to get into an argument here, if it came off like that then I apologize. I just said what I feel. Although I've only personally tried 2 of their products, I personally appreciate the way of thinking that USP brings to the table and they're free to do whatever the hell it is they want to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USPLabs View Post
    This just in about 2 minutes ago and I had to share with my peers.

    I'm not promoting a product just informing that a herb we been studying anecdotally(logs) and through our affiliated universities in India contains a potent Anabolic that significantly increase strength.

    This product is lowering LH and testosterone but not suppressing it while increasing strength significantly
    ....really cool finding but time to isolate and concentrate...

    I am stacking with PRIME and it is interesting....To bad a 90 count bottle currently costs 175 dollars to use at the acitve dose. We will refine this down and maybe one day come to market but for know it is a lofty vision.

    If we release this it will be waaaayyyy down the road but Nature is full of anabolic compounds we just have to associate ourselves with the right people and companies and the innovation is without limits.

    Cool how USPlabs has come from a team of one that did the research to a team of many from universities, biotech firms, and research pharmacists that are interested in natural medicine...
    could you expand on the bolded part?
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    Usplabs, I know it gets annoying and frustrating but why even respond? It seems to me that every time you respond to the negativity the thread goes to crap and the only ones that lose are the people that were interested in hearing more about said plant/herb. I mean, it's the internet, for crying out loud. There's always gonna be a Tommy Tuff Guy or Billy Badass talking crap but so what? It comes with the territory. Just keep innovating, growing and moving forward...and posting awesome videos on Youtube!

    Anyways, I'm hoping to hear more and I'm sure other people are, as well.
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    Has it also increased LBM? Also isn't Lowering and suppressing the same thing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bionic View Post
    It seems to me that every time you respond to the negativity the thread goes to crap and the only ones that lose are the people that were interested in hearing more about said plant/herb.
    This is what they want to happen. It keeps threads fresh and is even better for promoting their stuff. Just like this thread.... It starts with this post and in a month or two you will see them introduce this new super products much earlier and have a bunch of super suckers already to break out their credit cards and buy it.... Hell it works, so I don't blame them...
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    Interesting. But yeah, that IS quite pricey. lol Subbed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BurghHardcore View Post
    Although I don't really see the purpose of the original post in the thread by USP, I do have to sympathize with USP in this case. You do seem to show up often and rip on USP, for really no reason. You could of just as easily not posted anything and went about your business.

    Honestly, and I'm not proud to admit it, but thats the one thing that's kept me from trying a single one of AN's products. Other an Easy (who happens to be very informative and helpful from what I can see)...your reps are flat out annoying. I'm hardpressed to find a thread where someone is asking supplement advice and an AN rep(s) comes floating in pimping drive and RPM. It's really no different than how MuscleTech is all over magazines. Yeah...I guess in a sense it's their job, but it's overdone. I digress, I just had to say that. I was annoyed.
    You know if you look at the original "The One" promo thread, the owner of AN was taking jabs at USP the entire time. I have nothing against AN's products but I thought it was pretty unprofessional and totally turned me off from AN. I don't understand why companies and their reps can't just mind their own business, especially when the posting has nothing to do with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USPLabs View Post
    The synthetic route is easy.
    I'm sure the chemists of the world would disagree with you.

    Anyways.... what would be the reasoning for the lwoering of LH and T? Is the herb introducing an exogenous hormone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rx Lift View Post
    You know if you look at the original "The One" promo thread, the owner of AN was taking jabs at USP the entire time. I have nothing against AN's products but I thought it was pretty unprofessional and totally turned me off from AN. I don't understand why companies and their reps can't just mind their own business, especially when the posting has nothing to do with them.
    I was thinking this as well, but you beat me to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebo View Post
    I don't get the point of this thread. Just seems like pre-hyping a product which will probably come to market miraculously sooner than expected and offered at such a great price, but act now because supplies are limited......
    yea it could be hype or it could be a breakthrough product added to the list of other great usp products but without promotion who would know about it and it sounded to me like a topic for discussion for something that might be available down the road regardless i dont see why people are attacking usplabs over a post informing us of a possible breakthrough product it just seems malicious IMO
    The last time I looked it seemed to me that is exactly why a board sponsor pays to advertise, market and promote their products here. The petty antics of others are very telling and quite unbecoming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeternitatis View Post
    I'm sure the chemists of the world would disagree with you.

    Anyways.... what would be the reasoning for the lwoering of LH and T? Is the herb introducing an exogenous hormone?
    You took it out of context....

    A supplement company can easily contact China's MANY steroid chemists and get it done quickly.

    From our Chemist;

    "LH can vary throughout the day so if collection of blood is done at different times, that can always account for such a thing.

    The changes in testosterone were a bit odd as I expected to see a change in both free and total testosterone, but sometimes that's just the nature of these tests. Once we get more data from other people, it'll help put things into better perspective as small changes in the values of one person don't mean much in the grand scheme of things. Overall, I'm still expecting that we'll see LH will be down along with total and free T."
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    Interesting. The grand scheme of things is definitely important . I look forward to seeing some more updates on this mystery herb.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joebo View Post
    This is what they want to happen. It keeps threads fresh and is even better for promoting their stuff. Just like this thread.... It starts with this post and in a month or two you will see them introduce this new super products much earlier and have a bunch of super suckers already to break out their credit cards and buy it.... Hell it works, so I don't blame them...
    Prescient?

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    Actually another possible reason for lowered T is the compound increasing the AR sensitivity so that they uptake more testosterone, as happens with use of l-carnitine-tartrate. In a study they found the use of LCT lowered T levels postworkout, but saw signicant change in retained nitrogen in the muscle tissue as well.

    Any individual piece of the puzzle is hard to evaluate on its own without all of the puzzle visible....

    I'm still not sure how you can say its lowering it but not suppressing it for certain though without knowing more about the rest of what it is doing. Its definitely possible for natural substances to suppress testosterone production.
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    Does this have anything to do with this guy who was trying to get a herbal product from india into production?

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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    Actually another possible reason for lowered T is the compound increasing the AR sensitivity so that they uptake more testosterone, as happens with use of l-carnitine-tartrate. In a study they found the use of LCT lowered T levels postworkout, but saw signicant change in retained nitrogen in the muscle tissue as well.

    Any individual piece of the puzzle is hard to evaluate on its own without all of the puzzle visible....

    I'm still not sure how you can say its lowering it but not suppressing it for certain though without knowing more about the rest of what it is doing. Its definitely possible for natural substances to suppress testosterone production.
    LH increased and free test dropped significantly...I can eat soy if I wanted to lower testosterone levels. This happens sometimes with androgens LH is secreted but the testes do not respond...

    Plus, we are talking big increases in strength thus far from the few that used it.
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    Guys.... calm down.

    Yes I came in and laughed, yes I posted that fact.

    Did no one else see through the, "I promise this isn't hype... I am just so excited I can't help but type this info in multiple sections of the forum" talk?

    Judging by my increase in rep points and commentary to coincide, I think many did see through it. I apologize to USP that I alone chose to verbalize my thoughts as well.

    Please don't try to turn this into a reps vs. reps thing..... we aren't ***** gangs. I have the utmost respect for Strategic and Mullet.
    Nothing in my comment alluded to anything against your team or company..... you are the one who chose to turn it into drama. My comment was directed towards your 15th use of the same marketing method (big news... not trying to sell anything at all... just thrilled to share info with you, my little harem of supp users who think I know what I'm talking about) which is successful; just annoying that you think people are too dumb to see through it after so many uses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanbane View Post
    Guys.... calm down.

    Yes I came in and laughed, yes I posted that fact.

    Did no one else see through the, "I promise this isn't hype... I am just so excited I can't help but type this info in multiple sections of the forum" talk?

    Judging by my increase in rep points and commentary to coincide, I think many did see through it. I apologize to USP that I alone chose to verbalize my thoughts as well.
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    Thanks man

    I truly am smiling right now too.
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    Will this new herb be stronger than Prime?
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    There must be dramatic surges in ATP, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanbane View Post
    Guys.... calm down.

    Yes I came in and laughed, yes I posted that fact.

    Did no one else see through the, "I promise this isn't hype... I am just so excited I can't help but type this info in multiple sections of the forum" talk?

    Judging by my increase in rep points and commentary to coincide, I think many did see through it. I apologize to USP that I alone chose to verbalize my thoughts as well.

    Please don't try to turn this into a reps vs. reps thing..... we aren't ***** gangs. I have the utmost respect for Strategic and Mullet.
    Nothing in my comment alluded to anything against your team or company..... you are the one who chose to turn it into drama. My comment was directed your 15th use of the same marketing method (big news... not trying to sell anything at all... just thrilled to share info with you, my little harem of supp users who think I know what I'm talking about) which is successful; just annoying that you think people are too dumb to see through it after so many uses.

    Jacob, apologies from the knees of my heart for my laughter being taken wrong.

    You can't even apologize correctly. If you are going to apologize be a man about it.

    Your hypocrisy rains harder than little Wayne at strip club. Do you ever read what you write? You are molding yourself as a pompousness individual in this thead.

    If this product makes it to market it will be years down the road and it will be released along with blood panels and research at the university level. This is fact.

    Today USPlabs was told information about a herbal breakthrough of sorts, and anabolicMinds is my home board. AnabolicMinds is where USPlabs has gone from a UG brand to a world distributed brand. I owe a lot to this board and it’s a huge reason my generosity shines here. I feel like a owe. I feel like I should give back.

    You come and type your uselessness into my dialogue with my consumers with your view on my thread.

    Honestly, What gives you the right to predict MY intentions and at the same time call others idiots for taking interest(are claiming to be smarter than everyone else..sure sounds like It). I really want to know...

    AnabolicMinds is my home. Beyond business, I established valuable relationships based on shared knowledge. I was sharing some knowledge on the future of our company.

    Yes, I was bragging about how far USPlabs has come. Yes, I did post this to inform others on the direction of my company. Yes, this is a supplement board where people are seeking the next best thing.

    Does this create excitement, obviously. Does this validate our position as the leading sports nutrition brand using natural herbal ingredients to a higher level, possibly.

    At the end of the day, we all want to know information about supplements and what is coming next....Does AnabolicMinds have 70,000 members that want to listen to lanbane. No. As much as you like to believe that you are irrelevant. I am irrelevant it’s the supplements that draws the crowd.

    Lanbane, What is wrong with that?

    I know what is wrong.....You work for another company! Grow up and mind your business.
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    Judging by my increase in rep points and commentary to coincide, I think many did see through it. .
    Do you understand that you are a grown man?
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