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    sustain alpha vs. dermacine


    what's the pros and cons of each and would appreciate feedback from someone who has taken both. and i just noticed the testosterone recovery stack. would it be beneficial to add dermacine to that or is that more along the lines of a pro hormone?

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    i guess i should say what my goals are. i'm about to order probably the toco 8 and sustain alpha because i don't think the dermacine is natural boost(thats what i gather from the primordial website) along with DCP and i'm going to try Cre-02. looking to boost test while cutting and because libido hasn't exactly been that great lately. any suggestions or feedback will be appreciated. oh and is the stuff on nutra the new versions of the product with the spray top?
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    Like I mentioned What's the major difference between sustain alpha and Dermacrine , the Dermacrine is going to be suppressive. Run Dermacrine or 1-T, then follow it up with the TRS if you are going to do a pp stack.
    Read up on how Dermacrine works first.
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    thanks. and is the anti cort really necessary? couldn't i just take vitamin C for that or something cheaper?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsp0785 View Post
    thanks. and is the anti cort really necessary? couldn't i just take vitamin C for that or something cheaper?
    Vit C works, not as well though and the TRS sort of hits it from a more complete angle. I would take Vitamin C in addition ( I actually take the EndoAmp and Vit C on a regular basis to keep my cortisol down, as most people are constantly over-stressed).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    Vit C works, not as well though and the TRS sort of hits it from a more complete angle. I would take Vitamin C in addition ( I actually take the EndoAmp and Vit C on a regular basis to keep my cortisol down, as most people are constantly over-stressed).
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    I have dermacrine, 1-t, and Sustain Alpha. I currently am using sustain Alpha and love it. I never have really noticed a significant increase in libido other than this product. I am using it with igf-2 which is making for a great combo. im only about 8 days in though. Current side effects: acne, increased hair growth, and some other things.
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    well with the help of steveoph i am going to run 2 bottles of 1-t with the sustain alpha endoamp and toco 8 for pct along with some clomid. 6 weeks of 1-t with probably 6 weeks of pct. i dont' think 1-t causes a ton of shut down so i'll just run the clomid at a lower dose for a little longer
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