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  1. Muscletech does it again...


    MuscleTech - MyoShock HSP - Extreme Musclebuilder With Heat Shock Activation

    Myoshock?? I seriously think they make stuff up sometimes. Heat shock activation? Heat shock proteins?? I wish some one would bomb muscletech headquarters. wtf...I'm speechless

    It has 400mg of caffeine...pretty hefty dose if you ask me.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by planetfuzz View Post
    MuscleTech - MyoShock HSP - Extreme Musclebuilder With Heat Shock Activation

    Myoshock?? I seriously think they make stuff up sometimes. Heat shock activation? Heat shock proteins?? I wish some one would bomb muscletech headquarters. wtf...I'm speechless

    It has 400mg of caffeine...pretty hefty dose if you ask me.
    dude, give it a rest.

    Check out this thread instead:

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  3. okay, had to take a peak...

    it looks like a buch of herbs, some caffine and mono... no fkn surprises there.

    ...so this must have been Dex's secret weapon, huh? I bet ya Jay is pissed, he was stuck with the cryogenic suppository event that landed him second place.

    These boys would be better off taking steroids....
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  4. Lol I couldnt agree with you anymore... Im still lost as 2 y ppl still buy their garbage.

  5. DIRECTIONS: To develop respect for and understand the potency of MyoShockHSP™, take 3 caplets 30-45 minutes before your first workout. Thereafter, move to one full serving (7 caplets) before your daily workout. Do not exceed 7 caplets in a 24-hour period. Read the entire label before use and follow directions provided.


    Respect the Myoshock, biatches.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    DIRECTIONS: To develop respect for and understand the potency of MyoShockHSP™, take 3 caplets 30-45 minutes before your first workout. Thereafter, move to one full serving (7 caplets) before your daily workout. Do not exceed 7 caplets in a 24-hour period. Read the entire label before use and follow directions provided.


    Respect the Myoshock, biatches.

  7. This product sounds awesome! can't wait to get my hands on some of it! Do you think NP will get it?
    “We are what we repeatedly do. Therefore, excellence is not an act, but a habit.”

  8. How can companies spew such verbal diarrhea and not be regulated at any level? How can this be legal? Honestly, it pisses me off that companies can say anything they want regarding product claims/effects. Only in the supplement industry do you see this!

    Don't get me started!

  9. Quote Originally Posted by papapumpsd View Post
    How can companies spew such verbal diarrhea and not be regulated at any level? How can this be legal? Honestly, it pisses me off that companies can say anything they want regarding product claims/effects. Only in the supplement industry do you see this!

    Don't get me started!
    People have the freedom to research the claims and ingredients to figure out of they are BS.

    Trust me, you don't want the alternative of having the government involved (which would allow NO claims or mentions of efficacy, forcing people to "figure it out for yourself".)
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    People have the freedom to research the claims and ingredients to figure out of they are BS.

    Trust me, you don't want the alternative of having the government involved (which would allow NO claims or mentions of efficacy, forcing people to "figure it out for yourself".)
    Could we not say this about the sub-prime mort. industry too? Those ignorant homeowners should have researched real estate finance, budgeting, interest rates, etc. but instead they believed the lending institutions (financial professionals). I know I'm comparing apples to outhouses, but there are basic ethics at hand. Lending/financial institutions should be held to a fiduciary duty.

    I'm not saying government should control the supplement industry, but surely some sort of marketing/claims regulation could protect consumers from B.S. marketing of many supplement manufactures. They are straight out LIES in the MuscleTech ad.

    Anyways, I've expressed my opinion on this topic before. I know there are VERY GOOD supplement companies out there Dsade, but its companies like MuscleTech and the others that give this industry a bad name. You can either sit with the bad apples and stink too or get the bad apples thrown out. To how that's done, I don't know, but IMO, sitting with stinking apples is not the best route.

    Survival of the fittest doesn't seem to work with supp. mfgs as MuscleTech has been busy swindling people for a long time and their products are a joke when compared to label claims. In other words, they will not disappear on their own.

    Do you not want to start a "Responsible Sports Supplement Council" (RSSC) or something to differentiate the good apples from the bad? Leverage economies of scale by gathering the 'good' manufacturers into one group/body (RSSC for example). Promote this body and the standards. Your firm, nor Nutra, nor any other 'good' supplement manufacturer has the budget to go head-to-head against the 800lb. gorillas (MuscleTech). But you can certainly have a collective, summative effect by starting an organization as mentioned above. Pool your dollars and "campaign" against the 800lbers.

    Just thinking out loud.

    Constructive commentary appreciated.

  11. Quote Originally Posted by papapumpsd View Post
    Do you not want to start a "Responsible Sports Supplement Council" (RSSC) or something to differentiate the good apples from the bad? Leverage economies of scale by gathering the 'good' manufacturers into one group/body (RSSC for example). Promote this body and the standards. Just thinking out loud.

    Constructive commentary appreciated.
    It's been tried...and does not succeed. Whether a combination of egos in this industry and flat out insecurity/greed plays out, there simply is no way to standardize "good" without instant corruption.
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  12. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    It's been tried...and does not succeed. Whether a combination of egos in this industry and flat out insecurity/greed plays out, there simply is no way to standardize "good" without instant corruption.
    Damn shame. Thanks for the replys.

  13. before bash I give the benefit of the doubt, HSP may have their place in bb, apart from that I believe the new mri product WAR have a better ingredient profile


    Heat Shock Protein 72 Response to Exercise in Humans
    Authors: Yamada, Paulette1; Amorim, Fabiano1; Moseley, Pope2; Schneider, Suzanne1

    Source: Sports Medicine, Volume 38, Number 9, 2008 , pp. 715-733(19)

    Publisher: Adis International


    Abstract:

    Heat shock protein (Hsp) 72 is a unique, ubiquitous molecule. In vitro and in vivo animal models have shown that increased Hsp 72 is associated with improved cellular survivability and tolerance to stressors. The primary focus of this article is to review the Hsp 72 protein response to exercise in humans. Various mechanisms regulate post-transcriptional activity and therefore measurement of messenger RNA (mRNA) does not necessarily represent the level of functional Hsp 72. For this reason, this article incorporates only a few studies that assessed Hsp 72 mRNA response to exercise. Although this article focuses on human studies, it also includes some key animal studies to provide insight into the mechanisms of the response of Hsp 72 to stress.

    Intra- (IC) and extracellular (EC) Hsp 72 have different functions. IC Hsp 72 confers cellular protection from subsequent stressors, while EC Hsp 72 has a whole-body systemic role in antigen presentation and immunity. An acute exercise bout stimulates an increase in both IC and EC Hsp 72. Long-term training and improved fitness increases the rate of availability of IC Hsp 72 in response to stress. Other factors that affect Hsp 72 production include environmental factors, exercise mode, duration and intensity, age, estrogen, and anti-oxidant and glycogen availability. The functions and roles of Hsp 72 also depend on the tissue of origin. This article describes the Hsp 72 response to exercise in relation to the tissue assayed (i.e. skeletal muscle vs lymphocyte) and the origin of the sample (i.e. venous vs arterial serum). Collectively, the reviewed studies reveal exciting and novel research that encourages future investigation in this area.
    Keywords: Exercise; HSP 72; Leucocytes; Muscles

    Document Type: Review article

    Affiliations: 1: 1 Department of Health, Exercise and Sports Sciences, University of New Mexico, Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA 2: 2 Department of Internal Medicine, University of New Mexico School of Medicine, Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA

    http://www.ingentaconnect.com/conten...00009/art00002

  14. Quote Originally Posted by dafox View Post
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  15. This stuff only works if you wear the "STRAP"!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    No doubt it will be at GNC in time for the holidays.

  16. 400mg Of Caffeine Wtf
    Might As Well Put Crack In It!?!

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Chub View Post
    This product sounds awesome! can't wait to get my hands on some of it! Do you think NP will get it?
    I HOPE SO I AM GONNA FILL ALL MY CREDIT CARDS FULL OF THEM, I CANT WAIT THIS IS A ONCE IN A LIFE TIME PRODUCT MUST BUY!!!!!!!

  18. Muscletech is ****.I would rather throw my money away than spend it on their products.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Big BAMA View Post
    This stuff only works if you wear the "STRAP"!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    No doubt it will be at GNC in time for the holidays.
    It is already there.
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by xtgear View Post
    before bash I give the benefit of the doubt, HSP may have their place in bb, apart from that I believe the new mri product WAR have a better ingredient profile


    Heat Shock Protein 72 Response to Exercise in Humans
    Authors: Yamada, Paulette1; Amorim, Fabiano1; Moseley, Pope2; Schneider, Suzanne1

    Source: Sports Medicine, Volume 38, Number 9, 2008 , pp. 715-733(19)

    Publisher: Adis International


    Abstract:

    Heat shock protein (Hsp) 72 is a unique, ubiquitous molecule. In vitro and in vivo animal models have shown that increased Hsp 72 is associated with improved cellular survivability and tolerance to stressors. The primary focus of this article is to review the Hsp 72 protein response to exercise in humans. Various mechanisms regulate post-transcriptional activity and therefore measurement of messenger RNA (mRNA) does not necessarily represent the level of functional Hsp 72. For this reason, this article incorporates only a few studies that assessed Hsp 72 mRNA response to exercise. Although this article focuses on human studies, it also includes some key animal studies to provide insight into the mechanisms of the response of Hsp 72 to stress.

    Intra- (IC) and extracellular (EC) Hsp 72 have different functions. IC Hsp 72 confers cellular protection from subsequent stressors, while EC Hsp 72 has a whole-body systemic role in antigen presentation and immunity. An acute exercise bout stimulates an increase in both IC and EC Hsp 72. Long-term training and improved fitness increases the rate of availability of IC Hsp 72 in response to stress. Other factors that affect Hsp 72 production include environmental factors, exercise mode, duration and intensity, age, estrogen, and anti-oxidant and glycogen availability. The functions and roles of Hsp 72 also depend on the tissue of origin. This article describes the Hsp 72 response to exercise in relation to the tissue assayed (i.e. skeletal muscle vs lymphocyte) and the origin of the sample (i.e. venous vs arterial serum). Collectively, the reviewed studies reveal exciting and novel research that encourages future investigation in this area.
    Keywords: Exercise; HSP 72; Leucocytes; Muscles

    Document Type: Review article

    Affiliations: 1: 1 Department of Health, Exercise and Sports Sciences, University of New Mexico, Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA 2: 2 Department of Internal Medicine, University of New Mexico School of Medicine, Albuquerque, New Mexico, USA

    http://www.ingentaconnect.com/conten...00009/art00002
    good post , the first with some science and no bashing.
    I personally think MT has its place on the supp world and some good supps, they are expensive and a lot of hype but nowadays almost every brand hypes their products a lot

  21. I better stock up on this stuff before it get's banned !
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  22. What study shows that this product does work or does not work? I have not even used the product or researched it to nock it.

  23. I'm knocking the marketing verbiage MT uses. The product claims are down right LIES.

    Do you believe what they claim the product will do for you? If so, I clean water supply I want to sell you in Mexico.

  24. i've said it once and i'll say it again...most mainstream sup companies build their products on studies such as the one posted above, and not by doing their own research as they rather spend their money in marketing. sure muscletech sucks...but if their prices were better you'd probably sing a different tune. just look at this 400mg of caffeine everyone is amazed about...what makes muscletechs caffeine different from anyone elses? the ingredients work its the hype and price you are pissed at!

  25. Quote Originally Posted by raginfcktard View Post
    i've said it once and i'll say it again...most mainstream sup companies build their products on studies such as the one posted above, and not by doing their own research as they rather spend their money in marketing. sure muscletech sucks...but if their prices were better you'd probably sing a different tune. just look at this 400mg of caffeine everyone is amazed about...what makes muscletechs caffeine different from anyone elses? the ingredients work its the hype and price you are pissed at!
    Exactly ! If they cut their prices in half... er, I mean 1/3, and didn't have such B.S. marketing and claims in their ad's, and didn't have such outrageous proprietary blends.. they'd be ok.
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  26. Quote Originally Posted by djbombsquad View Post
    What study shows that this product does work or does not work? I have not even used the product or researched it to nock it.
    I don't know man. Perhaps you can make another youtube video and log it for us - report back on your findings.

    I will rep you into the green if you do

  27. Quote Originally Posted by AK32408 View Post
    Exactly ! If they cut their prices in half... er, I mean 1/3, and didn't have such B.S. marketing and claims in their ad's, and didn't have such outrageous proprietary blends.. they'd be ok.
    LOL, exactly. So IF, AND, AND, AND, AND all of that, they'd be an A-OKAY company. Just like if politicians didn't lie, cheat, steal, bribe, and commit adultery, they'd be A-OKAY too

  28. Quote Originally Posted by papapumpsd View Post
    LOL, exactly. So IF, AND, AND, AND, AND all of that, they'd be an A-OKAY company. Just like if politicians didn't lie, cheat, steal, bribe, and commit adultery, they'd be A-OKAY too


  29. I'll be happy to test it out...

  30. Quote Originally Posted by D3vildog View Post
    I'll be happy to test it out...
    Only if they send ya 2 free bottles though right ??
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