I need a good No product
- 11-05-2008, 01:33 PM
- 11-05-2008, 01:46 PM
White FLOOD, Ragnarok, GlycerGROW or Bulk Arginine
- 11-05-2008, 04:10 PM
I know alot of people bash Muscletech (I myself cannot stand them) however NaNo Vapor works wonders for me and is by far the best pre workout supplement I have ever used. Heres a list of what I tried: NO Shotgun, IDS Beta Nox, NO Xplode, Xyience NOX CG3, Plasmajet, RPM, and EST Xtreme NO.
11-05-2008, 04:16 PM
Can I ask why you only want a NO product? I personally love my Ragnarok over the NO-xplode I was taking before that.
11-05-2008, 05:03 PM
11-05-2008, 05:29 PM
I'd just buy the cheap six star brand NO pills, only ~$20. You don't need anything more expensive.
11-05-2008, 05:33 PM
dude, got get bulk agmentine (speling?) and Hemodraulix. you will have crazy pumps, plus u get free kre alkiline creatine with the Hemodraulix.
11-05-2008, 06:23 PM
NO Shotgun is what i'm running right now.
i like it better than NO Xplode, but my favs are Superpump250 by Gaspari and White Flood by Controlled Labs.
11-05-2008, 08:08 PM
Drink - SMASH Fully Loaded or Superpump
Pills - HemodrauliX hands down.
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11-05-2008, 09:23 PM
NO Shotgun is my favorite. Plasmajet also worked pretty well for me...
11-05-2008, 10:44 PM
The other day I did this and had a good pump all day
1gal of water
4gr Vit C
3TBS Vegetable Glycerine
1 tub crystal lite
Serious Nutrition Solutions Representative
11-06-2008, 01:01 AM
We just released our NEW pre-workout product called Pre-Surge. You can go on our website,
www.aenutrition.com and check the forums for new info.
I'm confident that you will experience pumps like you've never felt before. From Russian Tarragon Extract to increase creapure uptake, to theobromine PEA and Neuravena for focus...it's got everything
11-06-2008, 02:10 PM
11-06-2008, 02:38 PM
Try pre surge. Im ordering 6 bottles.
11-06-2008, 02:39 PM
Pre surge has no gimic crap in there from what I have seen. Looks like a awesome product.
11-06-2008, 09:10 PM
11-06-2008, 09:42 PM
pre-surge looks pretty interesting but i cannot attest to its affectiveness.
but out of all the pump products ive tried the best is superpump 250, maybe not the best for stregth, but definately the best for pump. Why? It has a good insulin mimicking complex, and arginine complex. and a stimulant mix that cant be beat, 100mg caffiene so your not overload, vincopetine, huperzine, n-actyl tyrosine,ect.ect...
Why people dont recommend superpump,cuse people like to hate on gaspari. I will say that plasmajet sucked majorily.
Hemodralix was also good, mainly because of the arichoninic acid and beta alanine. If u want a pill pump product i would reccomend this.
What id personally do is superpump, 1 cap x-factor, plus 3-4 grams of bulk beta alanine added to the superpump, For ultimate pumps, this can be taken further by drinking xtend during your workout.
11-06-2008, 09:44 PM
see any no product that only relies on only arginine will dissapoint you, however the iccarin in there is good for pumps.there is so much more to a pump than NO
11-06-2008, 10:01 PM
Universal Nutrition - Shock Therapy
I've used No-Xplode and UN's Shock Therapy. Shock Therapy, for me, was way better than No-Xplode. I get really energized and have good work-outs on this product. I've never got a Pump from NO products (maybe i don't know what a pump feels like???), but definetly felt an energy lift and a mental focus like none other.
Shock Therapy is cheap, has anti-oxidants to counter the free radicals produced by the NO, but doesn't taste that great. Taste doesn't really matter to me anyway.
BTW, i've read on Bodybuilding.com that Beta Alanine products really kick ass over NO products. I may try out B.A. after my shock therapy is out.
11-06-2008, 10:10 PM
no xplode doesnt have a good insulin mimetic properties, uses cinnamon,some other stuff, plus it has too much caffiene 200mg.
Shock Therapy is good for stregth but i think there are better pump products.
Superpump,arichindonic acid,Beta alanine,Citruline malate will get get u pumped as hell, even can add glycerol monosterate and waxy maize but ive found there is a certain limit to the pump, GM and WM may not add extra benefit, but are also good pump products.
Try that, its crazy.
11-06-2008, 10:25 PM
11-06-2008, 11:23 PM
200mg is too much for me, plus its in the anyhydrous form which is more deleterious to the heart. 200mg of coffe caffiene isnt the same as 200mg caffiene anhydrous. Coffe contains cholergenic acid lessens the negative effects of caffiene, really every supplement company should add this in if they use caffine in the products, i would if i was a supplement company.
11-06-2008, 11:49 PM
Yea, we contraing 175mg caffeine anhydrous. The profile really cannot be beat. Stores should have it within the next few weeks. Vitamin Shoppes should have it within the next month or two, as they can be slow to get it on the shelves.
Here's the FAQ!
*ATHLETIC EDGE NUTRITION-PreSurge FAQ- Premium, Pre-Workout Supplementation!
11-06-2008, 11:54 PM
Russian Tarragon sounds very interesting indeed.
11-06-2008, 11:57 PM
all the science behind it is very promising, i just dont like the amount of caffiene, theobromine is good to add in though.
id really like a sample pack of this, u gonna be doing any samples of this?any logs?
11-07-2008, 12:55 AM
I do believe Seb said he had some samples made, so I'll definitely keep you guys informed about those!!
11-07-2008, 02:03 AM
Well I ordered 6 bottles of the stuff.
11-07-2008, 02:05 AM
11-07-2008, 09:06 AM
11-07-2008, 11:32 AM
Well I have been taking 50% of whats in the formula so now with this combo I will just double the dosage make it last 3 months and I will just have to buy one more intrabolic. I am doing this stack with the monster pslin stack for massive NO pumps.
11-07-2008, 11:34 AM
11-07-2008, 12:17 PM
11-07-2008, 01:00 PM
That is good. You push harder when you don't burn.
11-07-2008, 05:50 PM
11-09-2008, 04:20 PM
BA with pre surge will be a awesome stack.
11-09-2008, 05:27 PM
yeah the ba buffers lactic acid, as does going to the sauna,
11-12-2008, 04:54 PM
11-12-2008, 04:59 PM
Axis Labs Hemodraulix
11-12-2008, 05:00 PM
I'm going to say it again...Axis Labs Hemodraulix.
As for a drink, grab some bulk P-Slin and take that 10mins before...2scoops Whey/2scoops WMS/1cup ground Oats
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