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  1.  10-18-2008  08:09 AM
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    Oppinion on suppliments.


    Hey guys hows it going?

    just wondering your oppinion on NaNo vapor? Ive seen it in the shop now and seen some reviews, it seems to have bad reviews with it, but i was looking at a deal on a website to buy that together with anabolic halo for a cheap price, ive looked up on Halo and it seems to have really good reviews..

    Im currently using NO Xplode and is the first pump ive tried and am really happy with the results, its really doing wonders for me and im worried about changing over and spending money on another pump product and not getting good pumps out of it..

    thanks !



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    You could check out White FLOOD also. It might save you some cash. it's in tablet form now as well as powder. check out Volcom's log:
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    Originally Posted by militarypress View Post
    just wondering your oppinion on NaNo vapor?
    I really liked Vapor. It got me so jacked up and i felt like i could lift for hours. I get so focused in the gym and i lift like a mad man, but that is just me. It might not work for you but if i were you i would give it a try if you can afford it because it is expensive and i only buy it when there is a good sale on it.

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    All of the products mentioned in the OP are garbage. If you're looking for a pre-WO energizer type, look into RPM (may have to fiddle with dosing), and, as aforementioned, White Flood.

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    I have tried a ton of pre workout supps. Plasmajet, NO Xplode, NO Shotgun, Beta Box just to naw a few. Vapor surpases all of them by far from my experience. It worked extremely well for me and will be using it again shortly.

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    of course it's gonna work the whole back of the container is filled with ingredients. with all of that crap in there something is bound to work.

  7.  10-18-2008  05:19 PM
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    Originally Posted by wolverines View Post
    I have tried a ton of pre workout supps. Plasmajet, NO Xplode, NO Shotgun, Beta Box just to naw a few. Vapor surpases all of them by far from my experience. It worked extremely well for me and will be using it again shortly.
    u should probably try some that are good instead of ones u can get at ***. RPM, Drive, white flood.... something proven to work not something proven in a magazine ad to work.

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    i normally wouldnt touch muscletech products because their so expensive, but i tried nano-vapor last year and really liked it. had some great workouts. but dont tell anyone i said that okay.....shhhh

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    Originally Posted by jsp0785 View Post
    u should probably try some that are good instead of ones u can get at ***. RPM, Drive, white flood.... something proven to work not something proven in a magazine ad to work.

    and i just cant let this one slide, while i am not defending muscletech or bsn(actually like bsn tho) these products are more "proven" than rpm, drive or white flood. i guarantee to you that more people are using and have had good results from muscletech and bsn products than oeople have had with a.n's or controlled labs. these are "proven" products and their is nothing wrong with using them. u can just do it a little cheaper somewhere else.

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    Originally Posted by mooch2321 View Post
    and i just cant let this one slide, while i am not defending muscletech or bsn(actually like bsn tho) these products are more "proven" than rpm, drive or white flood. i guarantee to you that more people are using and have had good results from muscletech and bsn products than oeople have had with a.n's or controlled labs. these are "proven" products and their is nothing wrong with using them. u can just do it a little cheaper somewhere else.
    none of those products are more proven. granted they do work but most pre workout supps have the same basic ingredients. these are only proven by highschool kids who saw how awesome it was in the magazine and how muscletechs scientists give studies that says it works. i used to work at *** and i would see kids come in all the time and buy nitrotech and celltech and swear by how great it was but you know what. they never got any bigger. if u can get it cheap i guess why not but i would never waste money on it. i guess it says something that their not as useless as fizogen

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    i tried nanoVAPOR and i actually liked it. right now i am trying NO Xplode and so far it doesn't even compare to vapor. right now i am just in the testing phase with the NO supps, just trying different things and see which one works best.

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    Originally Posted by mooch2321 View Post
    and i just cant let this one slide, while i am not defending muscletech or bsn(actually like bsn tho) these products are more "proven" than rpm, drive or white flood. i guarantee to you that more people are using and have had good results from muscletech and bsn products than oeople have had with a.n's or controlled labs. these are "proven" products and their is nothing wrong with using them. u can just do it a little cheaper somewhere else.
    You have to understand the ingredients and how they a) work with your body, and b) work with eachother.
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    Nano Vapor is crap. F*ck muscletech. I would never even thinking about giving money to that company. I get pissed off everytime I see some ad about how jay cutler added 500 percent more mass with some gay stack.

    Sure Nano Vapor will work but there are lots of products that are cheaper and work better. The time I tried it I was not impressed. If you want something with caffeine. RPM or White Flood. I am currently using ragnarok and it's great.

    P.S. Learn how to spell.

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    The back panel is full of ingredients, so something is bound to work?

    Bullsh1t. There are two scenarios:

    1) with 70 effing ingredients, you will not get enough of any one ingredient, no matter how good it might be, to actually work.

    2) there are 70 ingredients, and ingredients are listed in order of percentage of the formula. I guarantee you the two of the first 3 ingredients are arginine, creatine, and/or maltodextrin, and they comprise 90% of the formula, with the other 67 ingredients taking up only 10%. Why? They're cheap and effective (at least the creatine is, and the arginine gives you mad tyt3 pumps, yo). Throw in a healthy dose of caffeine, and OMGzors!!!!it the ****!

    I GUARANTEE you Clout, Ragnarok, Cre02, Assault, RPM, etc are FAR more effective.

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    2.2 Lbs. Fruit Punch
    Supplement Facts
    Serving Size1Scoop25 g)
    Servings Per Container40
    Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
    Calories 50
    Total Carbohydrates 12g 4%*
    Sugars 5g †
    Calcium 100mg 10%
    Sodium 220mg 9%
    NaNo Vapor™ Proprietary Blend 22031mg
    Intravol™ (Muscle Cell Volumizing Complex) †
    Maltodextrin
    Creatine Monohydrate** ** †
    Taurine †
    Creatine Anhydrous ** †
    Cinnamon Extract (As Cinnamomum Cassia Blume) (Bark) †
    Standardized To 40% Polyphenols
    Creatine Malate †
    Creatine Alpha-Ketoglutarate †
    Creatine HCA †
    Creatine L-Pyroglutamate †
    Taurine Ethyl Ester HCL †
    Taurine Alpha-Ketoglutarate †

    18 Beta Glycyrrhetinic Acid †
    Coriolus Versicolor Powder (Plant) †
    Vasoprime™ (Nitric Oxide Amplification Matrix) †
    D-Glucose Monosaccharide †
    L-Arginine ** †
    L-Aspartic Acid †
    Disodium Phosphate †
    Dipotassium Phosphate †
    Dicalcium Phosphate †
    Xanthinol Nicotinate †
    L-Arginine Ketoisocaproic Acid †
    L-Arginine Ethyl Ester HCL †
    L-Norvaline †
    L-Norvaline Ethyl Ester HCL †
    L-Citrulline †
    Citrulline Malate †
    L-Citrulline Ethyl Ester †
    L-Histidine Alpha-Ketoglutarate †
    Gynostemma Pentaphyllum Extract (Root) †
    (Standardized To 85% Gypenosides)
    Acetyl L-Carnitine L-Arginine Dihydrochloride †
    Salvia Miltiorrhiza Bunge Extract (Root) †
    Standardized To 10% Cryptotanshinone
    Artichoke Flavonoids (As Cynara Scolymus L.)(Root) †
    Standardized To 5% Chlorogenic Acid
    Crataegus Pinnatifida Bunge Extract (Fruit) †
    NeuroAMP™ (Psychoactive Signaling Intensify Catalyst) †
    N-Acetyl-L-Tyrosine †
    L-Tyrosine †
    Sulbutiamine †
    Vinpocetine †
    Alpha Glycerophosphocholine †
    Cis-9, 10-Octadecenoamide †
    Huperzine-A (As Huperzia Serrata) †
    Anaphex™ (Anabolic/Anti-Catabolic Signaling Complex) †
    Glycine †
    L-Leucine †
    L-Isoleucine †
    L-Valine †
    Beta Alanine †
    Beta Alanine Ethyl Ester HCL †
    L-Leucine Methyl Ester HCL †
    L-Leucine Alpha-Ketoglutarate †
    L-Leucine Isovaleric Acid †
    L-Isoleucine Ethyl Ester HCL †
    L-Isoleucine Methyl Ester HCL †
    L-Valine Ethyl Ester HCL †
    L-Valine Alpha-Ketoglutarate †
    Alpha Amino L-Butyrate †
    Infernogen™ (Lipid Inferno Fusion) †
    Caffeine Anhydrous †
    (Standardized For 117 Mg Caffeine)
    Yerba Mate Powder (As Llex Paraguariensis)(Leaf) †
    N-Acetyl-L-Carnitine HCL †
    Yohimbine HCL (Pausinystalia Yohimbe)(Bark) †
    Evodia Rutaecarpa Extract (As Tetradium Ruticarpum)(Fruit) †
    (Standardized For 10% Evodiamine)
    Black Tea Extract (As Camellia Sinensis)(Leaf) †
    (Standardized For 70% Polyphenols, 50% Catechins, 25% EGCG)
    Theobroma Cacao Extract (Seed) †
    (Standardized For 6% Theobromine)
    White Tea Extract (As Camellia Sinensis)(Leaf) †
    (Standardized For 50% Polyphenols, 35% Catechins, 15% EGCG)
    White Willow Extract (As Salix Alba)(Bark) †
    (Standardized For 25% Salicin)
    MyoGF™ (Hormonal Growth Complex) †
    Quercetin Dihydrate †
    Dihydroxy-Diosgenin (25R-5 Alpha-Spirostan-2-Alpha, 3-Beta) †
    Acetyl L-Cysteine Amide †
    Melatonin (N-Acetyl-5-Methoxytryptamine)

    Sweet, out of a 25gr serving, 12gr is maltodextrin, so you get 13gr to crap 70 damn ingredients into. Lets say there's 4gr creatine, 3gr arginine, and 2gr taurine. Now you have 4gr left to crap the additional 66 ingredients into.

    Lawlergagzors. They're full of ****.

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    Now that's what I call a 'Garbage Pail' Ingredient Profile lol.

    LOL @ the people believing it works and LOL @ people paying what MuscleTech charges.

    ...They should name their next product "Witches Stew EXTREME" with the ingredient profile

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    so whats up with fizogen?? never even heard of them lol (serious)
    from what i here they are total waste of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!

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    Muscletech Is Crap

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    Originally Posted by just93 View Post
    so whats up with fizogen?? never even heard of them lol (serious)
    from what i here they are total waste of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!
    Ever heard of The Strap? Enough said. Google it.

    That Nano Vapor ingredient list is so ridiculous. I'm really just speechless. WTF is melatonin doing in it??

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    wow i saw that, pathetic stuff!!
    melatonin in a pre/post/intra workout supplement lol??

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