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Old 09-09-2008, 12:18 AM   #61
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not sure if its the exact same as whats in prime, but its got the same name and similar classification i suppose
 



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Old 09-09-2008, 12:26 AM   #62
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Its never been used in mass-produced nutraceuticals before!
That doesn't mean to say there's no information on it, it's no secret that usp labs do a lot of research in india and also research ayurvedic medicines.
 



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Old 09-09-2008, 12:29 AM   #63
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That doesn't mean to say there's no information on it, it's no secret that usp labs do a lot of research in india and also research ayurvedic medicines.
hence why i searched for herbals. India is very into herbals. BTW any USP labs rep sorry for posting that if i shouldnt have...although anyone with some research would have uncovered it as well.
 



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hence why i searched for herbals. India is very into herbals. BTW any USP labs rep sorry for posting that if i shouldnt have...although anyone with some research would have uncovered it as well.
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Old 09-09-2008, 12:43 AM   #65
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not sure how accurate this is either but here is a link for the Terminella Chebula. Effects seem a slim shade similar to what is stated on the USP website.


Terminella Chebula


Prime looks to have extracts i guess of particular forms of these?



Im still interested to see how the logs play out that are going on right now and looking forward to picking up a bottle if all goes well
 



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not sure how accurate this is either but here is a link for the Terminella Chebula. Effects seem a slim shade similar to what is stated on the USP website.


Terminella Chebula


Prime looks to have extracts i guess of particular forms of these?



Im still interested to see how the logs play out that are going on right now and looking forward to picking up a bottle if all goes well
just remember that if its able to be extracted then USPL will do it right.... cant believe how well powerfll and SC work.

I too think that AP and SCRX are not factors in skewing Prime results..... I still think RPM with its icariin and naringin content could very likely change its effects for the better... or worse (not likely)
 
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just remember that if its able to be extracted then USPL will do it right.... cant believe how well powerfll and SC work.

I too think that AP and SCRX are not factors in skewing Prime results..... I still think RPM with its icariin and naringin content could very likely change its effects for the better... or worse (not likely)
Yeah I doubt RPM will have negative effects although i believe the icariin will skew pure prime results. I recently have just started my venture with USP labs products using anabolic PUmp. I havent experienced the food pump yet, but i am still figuring out timing for my body.
 



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Im not sure how accurate it is, but its a read.

here is an article here generally about the tribulus aquaticus
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and here is the medical herbalism website
Culpeper Plant names database
The problem with this is there is no correlation between different percentages and standardization. While it fills you in on where it may come from, in the end two companys can have this product. One amazing and one shite! The product has to be developed, then studied.
Unless you plan on eating the Plant raw?..Hmmm, I wonder
 




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Yeah I doubt RPM will have negative effects although i believe the icariin will skew pure prime results. I recently have just started my venture with USP labs products using anabolic PUmp. I havent experienced the food pump yet, but i am still figuring out timing for my body.
Some feel the pump right away, more so, some for them, takes a week, maybe 2. If its been that long or longer make a 20/80% of the amount of fast/slow carbs Ap meal.
 




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The problem with this is there is no correlation between different percentages and standardization. While it fills you in on where it may come from, in the end two companys can have this product. One amazing and one shite! The product has to be developed, then studied.
Unless you plan on eating the Plant raw?..Hmmm, I wonder
There is still nothing wrong with getting a general overview of the source itself. Most of us know that the "extraction method" is USP's speciality.

I for one, give T.L credit for taking the time to do some research because information on these plants is not easy to find.

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There is still nothing wrong with getting a general overview of the source itself. Most of us know that the "extraction method" is USP's speciality.

I for one, give T.L credit for taking the time to do some research because information on these plants is not easy to find.

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"extract meathod" is in itself a irefutable mystery building sales tactic... Real or not I just am amazed by how good usp is at marketing.
 
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"extract meathod" is in itself a irefutable mystery building sales tactic... Real or not I just am amazed by how good usp is at marketing.
How would you isolate your intended constituent from any one herb? And/or would you like to know the inherent percentage of say: L-DOPA in Mucuna Pruriens? Or, are you interested in knowing how altitude, lat- and longitude, soil conditions, and cultivation methods may affect the quality of said intended constituents?

Standardizing these ingredients to research-relevant levels is not as easy as plucking a random weed from the ground, chopping it into small pieces and capping it.