[RReuphoria]

Just an update to my progress, I've been on my PCT for a few weeks, and I feel great! I have blood work scheduled for Sept. 24th, and I'm going to talk to my Endo(whatever) about what I can and shouldn't do. He seems really knowledgeable regarding these chemical compounds.

Here is my PCT:

Novadex XT: 2x nightly
Tribulus: 500mg 2x daily
Longfolia Jack:50mg 2x daily
Maca: 300mg 2x daily
Mulra Puama: 250mg 2x daily
7-Methoxyisoflavone: 200mg daily
Milk Thistle (standardized): 1500mg daily
Co-enzyme 10: 30mg daily
Red Yeast Rice: 1400mg x2 daily

I'm trying to stay as natural as possible (hence all the natural stuff). My Endo can prescribe me something if I need a drug. I'm thinking of just telling him I want my test levels to be minimum 1500 micrograms/dl and see what he says about that...

Feedback?

[brahmabull]

He probably would put you on some pharmaceutical test booster such as androgel patch or a clomid or hcg. But, he will only even consider this if your test levels are way below normal levels for your age.

[RReuphoria]

well, my test levels were 74 micrograms/dl.

"normal" for my age is somewhere around 800-1000.

I have similiar testosterone levels to that of a 16 year old girl.

Hopefully, this PCT will take care of it though!

[Kristofer68SS]

Originally Posted by RReuphoria

well, my test levels were 74 micrograms/dl.

"normal" for my age is somewhere around 800-1000.

I have similiar testosterone levels to that of a 16 year old girl.

Hopefully, this PCT will take care of it though!

lol.............sorry man.

your statement about the 16 y/o girl got me chucklin.

I hope your pct helps/works for you. Please keep us informed.

good luck man.

[RReuphoria]

UPDATE:

On September 24th, I had a visit with an Endocrinologist (extremely brilliant and cool guy!). I had the following tests preformed...

Total Testosterone
Free Testosterone
LH Level
Prolactin Level
Thyroid panel

It was a LOT of blood which sucked, but, I received word of my tests today. I'm going to cut & paste a portion of the e-mail from my doctor:

"I wanted to inform you of your lab values. I would be happy to do that over e-mail if you like. Please respond to this e-mail and I will give you the values. However, you must understand that e-mail is not a secure form of communication and the e-mail may be read by others. If you are willing to take that chance, I am happy to give you the actual values over e-mail. I will tell you, everything was fine. With one exception. I would like for you to stop the testosterone booster drug that you were on. You definitely do not need to boost your testosterone level any more."

So, I just replied letting him know that it is fine to send me the values by e-mail. I don't expect that I will have them until Monday. However, it seems like my testosterone was very high from the way I understand that.

We'll just have to wait for the numbers!

Lessons learned so far:

1) I'm a moron for not doing research and listening to a guy at GNC regarding prohormones.

2) I'm getting "smarter" by using this wealth of knowledge on Anabolicminds! You guys all rock and I couldn't have received better advise!

3) Lab tests are F-ing expensive.

4) Every now and then, you get a really good doctor that seems genuinely committed to helping you reach your biological goals.

5) The PCT I was taking was cheap, effective, and regardless of what you hear, Novedex XT apparently does something. How much of something will wait until Monday I guess

But once again thank you to everyone that gave me advise. Hopefully I can pass on the information I learned from you guys to some other newbie!

[RReuphoria]

Values:

Everything was within safe limits. The only significant aspect is my total testosterone is slightly above normal range:

Test (1) Testosterone Total:

873 ng/dl (Refrange: 264 - 823 ng/dl)

Test (2) Testosterone (T4) FREE:

0.90 ng/dl (refrange: 0.70 - 1.90 ng/dl)

[Kristofer68SS]

Looks good for an OTC PCT.........

nice and thanks for the update.......reps.

[bonscott]

Whew,.. I was scared for ya,... but it's lookin' good so far. The advice on this site is overwhelmingly OUTSTANDING,... so many helpful people,,... I can just feel the love!!!

[ndnguy85]

wow just read this whole thread..i was scared for you man.

lesson: before you take anything..figure out wat it is first. is it a natural test booster, is a steroid..or a bunch of crap mixed together to make an energy supplement?

i would continue the pct for a lil bit more because everything might look fine for 4 weeks and then all hell breaks lose again. so just keep an eye out for things.

[noobster]

From what I've read Novedex XT/ATD metabolites might show up as T in lab results. If that's the case, your total T levels could still be around the low end of the ref range. Just a thing to consider.