[Distilled Water]

Last week I was toying around with my new blood glucose meter. It's a one touch ultra 2 meter. I was eating my regular sheduled meals one day using AP, one day no AP, next day AP, etc......

With all the hype and debate you may be surprised at my findings.

Non-AP days.
-These days I didn't take any AP
Meal 1:
6 egg whites
1 scoop Whey
1cup Non Fat yogurt
1/2 cup blueberries
1/2 cup (dry) oats

BG @ 8am: 76
BG 60min later: 81

Meal 2:
10oz Chicken
1/2 cup Long Grain Brown Rice
6 spears asparagus

BG @ 11:30: 75
BG 60min later: 81


AP days
-These are avg. from mon/wed/fri
Meal 1:
6 egg whites
1 scoop Whey
1cup Non Fat yogurt
1/2 cup blueberries
1/2 cup (dry) oats

BG @ 8am (when I took 1 AP): 77
BG 15min later: 71
BG 60min post meal: 74

Meal 2:
10oz Chicken
1/2 cup Long Grain Brown Rice
6 spears asparagus

BG @ 11:30 (when I took 1 AP): 75
BG 15min Later: 72
BG 60min Post meal: 73

This last meal I only did once using AP and no AP

50gr Whey Isolate
1 large Bagel

No Anabolic Pump Reading
BG before Meal: 73
BG 60min later: 89
BG 1hr 45min later: 93

With Anabolic Pump
BG before meal: 74
BG 15min later: 71
BG 60min later: 79
BG 1hr 45min later: 76

I will leave it at that. Any questions fire away. I was going to video tape but my camera doesn't have much space and I couldn't record more than 15sec

Symptoms notice between using AP and not. With AP I was hypo feeling and when I'd eat without AP sometimes I'd get super hungry about and hour and some change later. Could have just been me because sometime I can polish thru carbs on AP.

[Ares]

Interesting.

I am very carb intolerant, might have to give it a try.

How about trying some R-ALA and Fenugreek, etc...

[Distilled Water]

Originally Posted by Ares

Interesting.

I am very carb intolerant, might have to give it a try.

How about trying some R-ALA and Fenugreek, etc...

I have 300mg ALA caps, 200mcg Chromium Picolinate caps and 10mg Vanadyl Sulfate tabs. Fenugreek is cheap I could pick it up and try but IDK I dont really feel like getting a bigger waist in the process.

Now that I have the BG meter I'll be trying different things thru the year. I'll report on all of them.

[justreading]

Sorry be be a cynic but those numbers are not super impressive... I am very interested to see how cheaper products work.

Some suggestions:

1. Natural/organic Apple Cider Vigegar
2. Cinnimon extract
3. The ones you mentioned above as well...


All of those are cheaper options and actually you could probably do Apple cider vin, ala and cinnimon for the same price as AP and with those results I am sure they would be favorable

[Distilled Water]

I dont dispute the fact they will lower blood glucose levels. I've used the one's I've mentioned before with some success. However I didn't see the strength IMPROVEMENTS while cutting with the same amount of carbs.

What makes AP diff from the one's we've mentioned is it's suppose to activate GLUT-4 and block uptake in fat cells. This is why people are not advised to use ALA with higher carb diets. A lot of guys report gaining a lot of fat around their belly. ALA just sends whatever it can into cells, once the muscle cells are full it spills over to fat cells.

However used with a controled carb diet I think ALA is great!

[TOYFORDOLET]

Nice work man, I have been meaning to do some testing with repartitioning agents (even bought glucose meter), but haven't gotten around to it. I'm def. interested in seeing real world numbers with these substances.

Some more compounds to consider playing with:
bitter melon
gymnema
banaba
yellow gold

[OCCFan023]

Like this thinking man, good work. Have you tried, or plan on trying with this method, P-Slin?

[peteypab]

AP is great stuff. I Loaded up on the carbs before workout for food pump.

[Distilled Water]

Originally Posted by OCCFan023

Like this thinking man, good work. Have you tried, or plan on trying with this method, P-Slin?

No but I have 3 bottles of P-Slin so this is somthing I can try this winter

[USPLabs]

Originally Posted by justreading

Sorry be be a cynic but those numbers are not super impressive... I am very interested to see how cheaper products work.

Some suggestions:

1. Natural/organic Apple Cider Vigegar
2. Cinnimon extract
3. The ones you mentioned above as well...


All of those are cheaper options and actually you could probably do Apple cider vin, ala and cinnimon for the same price as AP and with those results I am sure they would be favorable

Look at the numbers at 1 hour and 45 minutes later. I think that is pretty impressive.

Remember we are not injecting insulin or using supplements that potentiate insulin release, but working independent of Insulin so I would not expect a huge fluctuations in numbers.

We are just becoming more efficient and utilizing energy..meaning we are leading glucose to muscle cells and denying entry into fat cells that in itself is SUPER impressive and worth it's wait in gold.

[justreading]

Originally Posted by USPLabs

Look at the numbers at 1 hour and 45 minutes later. I think that is pretty impressive.

Remember we are not injecting insulin or using supplements that potentiate insulin release, but working independent of Insulin so I would not expect a huge fluctuations in numbers.

We are just becoming more efficient and utilizing energy..meaning we are leading glucose to muscle cells and denying entry into fat cells that in itself is SUPER impressive and worth it's wait in gold.

Hmm point taken. I guess I am just a low responder to everything who is also very budget minded so I am very very cautious. When I come off of my zero/low carb keto diet I may try AP but want to see; can you stack it or alternate meals with Yellow Gold to make it last longer or to be able to use something with more than 3 carb meals a day and still have the bottle last a month?

[MHA]

Man you should do the yellow gold and see how it does. I ask cause I can't afford AP right now so its what I'm use in Right now

[CINCYKID]

Originally Posted by Distilled Water

I have 300mg ALA caps, 200mcg Chromium Picolinate caps and 10mg Vanadyl Sulfate tabs. Fenugreek is cheap I could pick it up and try but IDK I dont really feel like getting a bigger waist in the process.

Now that I have the BG meter I'll be trying different things thru the year. I'll report on all of them.

I have been using the 200 chro and 10 mg of van for years and found a product that has both in one pill for 11 bucks for 120 pills. Popa smurf blue specks in them and I get lower readings than the van from vitiman world.

[Trauma1]

Very interesting DW.

The use of the glucometer to assess specific response/results is a great tool to add to the dynamic of the log. I would be interested in seeing a blood sugar (MG/DL) reading 3 hours status post AP dosing as well if possible.