Yeah... slightly diff...
don't we all. original venom and stim x used to be great supps. i see the new versions in brick and mortar stores, can't help but wonder if they made it weaker to be more acceptable to general public?????? your average joe looking to drop a few pounds isn't as hardcore as most of us at am, imo.
thats all i needed to know. with a few exceptions 'new and improved' means it aint crap.
the original stimulant x (the red/white cap version) is on its way back. i just got a weeks sample to review from AX and it is the same thing as the original. i've missed this stuff. energy is great all day, appetite is crushed, and i'm sweating like nobody's business. it's about time they're bringing it back..
No doubt...awesome! I love the original stimX
You're on the right track.
that looks interesting, but close to $50 a bottle is kinda steep.
it actually looks better on paper.
Not for me. I quadrupled the dose and got none of the effects. And yes, I have old venom still to compare back and forth.
Damn. Well that sucks. I would understand if the lack of effectiveness is due to one's acquired tolerance to the stimulants found in the old Venom, as usually is the case with these products (for those that were taking the old Venom and switched to the new version without giving your body time to "reset" its response to stimulants, thus not feeling the same desired effect, and ultimately rendering the new product as ineffective, while in reality even the old Venom would not work as desired). Unfortunately for ALRI customers, I beleive that is a very narrow and unlikely scenario, since users like you have both versions to compare.
take this to the bank
with all the scrutiny that has been thrown alri's way, ie the whole aded jw mess. i can't believe this once reputable company could be so incredibly dumb. maybe alri has been paid by big pharma to be the frontman in their crusade to have supplements regulated. he is certainly doing his part to insure the feds have ample reasons for regulation.
look it up on Ebay. I found a person that was selling the version in the old bottles.
Spiked with sibutramine, the active pharmaceutical in Meridia for weight loss.
and that's just the new stuff, which isn't anywhere as good as the original. i can only imagine what they put in the original formula.
Thats the 3.0 version that was spiked (the original). The current version for sale (that was pulled at Vitamin Shoppe) is the 3.0+ version, which at least anecdotally (since it had none of the effects of 3.0 for me and many others) did not contain sibutramine.
it is my understanding that it is the current version-hyperdrive 3.0, that is spiked with sibutramine. the venom 3.0 is the 2nd version, the venom hyperdrive being the first. there have been 3 versions, i have tried the first 2 and the 2nd was considerably weaker than the first. but from what i understand it was still a lot stronger than the current one.
No.
