New Hyperdrive 3.0 versus Old Venom Hyperdrive 3.0

supersize77

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still gna go to my doctor tho...i dno man, meridia+rimonobant+ephedrine for like 3 months... i dnt feel too good abt havin done tht
Definitely go if it makes you feel better but I can almost guarantee you, there is no long term damage from you "supplement" stack. It's not like you ran something hormonal that suppresses your natural production of something.

Also, the body has amazing recuperative abilities, you could have hypothetically been strung out on coke and or meth for the past three months, and as long as you have stopped, would most likely recover completely.
 

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it is my understanding that it is the current version-hyperdrive 3.0, that is spiked with sibutramine. the venom 3.0 is the 2nd version, the venom hyperdrive being the first. there have been 3 versions, i have tried the first 2 and the 2nd was considerably weaker than the first. but from what i understand it was still a lot stronger than the current one.
Completely wrong. The older versions were spiked. The newer was isn't and that's why it sucks.
 

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I liked the first one, my mom has the 2nd one. She took 2 caps and said she couldn't tolerate it, thought she was gonna die. She takes one, however, im unsure of its capabilities.

The new one is supposed to be better with the new ingredients.
 
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If you liked the old Venom (the one that actually worked), check out the new AX SX.
 
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Originally Posted by FDA
An FDA analysis found that the undeclared active pharmaceutical ingredients in some of these products include sibutramine (a controlled substance), rimonabant (a drug not approved for marketing in the United States), phenytoin (an anti-seizure medication), and phenolphthalein (a solution used in chemical experiments and a suspected cancer causing agent). Some of the amounts of active pharmaceutical ingredients far exceeded the FDA-recommended levels, putting consumers' health at risk.

These weight loss products, some of which are marketed as ?dietary supplements,? are promoted and sold on various Web sites and in some retail stores. Some of the products claim to be ?natural? or to contain only ?herbal? ingredients, but actually contain potentially harmful ingredients not listed on the product labels or in promotional advertisements. These products have not been approved by the FDA, are illegal and may be potentially harmful to unsuspecting consumers.

The FDA advises consumers who have used any of these products to stop taking them and consult their healthcare professional immediately. The FDA encourages consumers to seek guidance from a healthcare professional before purchasing weight loss products.

?These tainted weight loss products pose a great risk to public health because they contain undeclared ingredients and, in some cases, contain prescription drugs in amounts that greatly exceed their maximum recommended dosages,? said Janet Wood****, M.D., director, Center for Drug Evaluation and Research, FDA. ?Consumers have no way of knowing that these products contain powerful drugs that could cause serious health consequences. Therefore FDA is taking this action to protect the health of the American public.?

The FDA has inspected a number of companies associated with the sale of these illegal products, and is currently seeking product recalls. Based on the FDA?s inspections and the companies? inadequate responses to recall requests, the FDA may take additional enforcement steps, such as issuing warning letters or initiating seizures, injunctions, or criminal charges.

The health risks posed by these products can be serious; for example, sibutramine, which was found in many of the products, can cause high blood pressure, seizures, tachycardia, palpitations, heart attack or stroke. This drug can also interact with other medications that patients may be taking and increase their risk of adverse drug events. The safety of sibutramine has also not been established in pregnant and lactating women, or in children younger than 16 years of age.

Rimonabant, another ingredient found in these products, was evaluated, but not approved by the FDA for marketing in the United States. The drug, which is approved in Europe, has been associated with increased risk of depression and suicidal thoughts and has been linked to five deaths and 720 adverse reactions in Europe over the last two years.

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VENOM was said to be in this list.... thus reason why people felt a significant difference between the types of Venom on the market.


ALRI should be sued if this is true.


A lot more information needs to be gathered first.



Can anyone "in the know" shed more light on this?
 

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I distanced myself from ALRI after their legal issues. Too much insider information that just seemed like you were not sure what was being put in your body. I had a friend fail a drug test a work for opiates using their Lean Dreams two years ago.
 

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no comparison new was great, old plain out sucks IMO.
 
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bump for anyone else having any information that could be useful
 

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