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    Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    June 3, 2008
    Day 4

    First, an update on the supplements I am taking: I forgot to mention I am also on Anabolic Pump. This was not just added to the stack. I have been using it non-stop since January 2008.

    Impressions / Results:

    The results noted in the first three days continued to express themselves. I am seeing progressive improvements in stamina and general well-being. Fortunately, I have not noticed any increases in aggression, known to accompany or signal increases in testosterone in some. My appetite is also stable. Increases may be noticed from higher testosterone levels. Recreate is probably keeping this in check.

    Something else: I would truly prefer to take my Fenugreek steroidal saponins at the same take as my STOKED! pre-bed stack. Somehow, I subjectively consider this rather too potent for that time of day. I can sense some possible challenge regarding my choice of fenugreek, as some promote the position that it is estrogenic. My choice of fenugreek is easy to explain, for those interested. Fenugreek is a rich source of about twelve or so steroidal saponins, the most important of which is diosgenin. Diosgenin in fenugreek is structurally similar to diosgenin in Mexican Wild Yam, used in the manufacture of synthetic testosterone. Fenugreek, by the way, has more diosgenin that tribulus terrestris (but has the active ingredient, protodioscin). Other fenugreek steroidal saponins include yamogenin, tigogenin, gitogenin, yuccagenin, neotigenin, lilagenin, and so on. These saponins help strengthen the immune system and stimulate the secretion of luteinizing hormone that modulates male and female hormones. As is well known, luteinizing hormone elevates testosterone levels and spermatogenesis in men, and if the fenugreek extract is also standardized for the insulin-mimicker, 4-hydroxy-isoleucine, it also helps to drive macronutrients into skeletal muscle. In women, luteinizing hormone optimizes the estrogen:testosterone ratio and boosts libido, amongst others.

    There should be some synergy with STOKED! here. Some compounds in STOKED! are known to modulate estrogen levels by inhibiting the aromatise enzyme, CYP 17, known play a role in the conversion of testosterone and androstenedione to estradiol and estrone. Besides, resveratrol is also known to directly stifle the production of this enzyme itself. So overall, one should see improved testosterone:estrogen ratios.

    I currently take my fenugreek in the late afternoon. I will try it one of these days with my second dose of STOKED! and see if there is any noticeable difference.
    Not to mention the unseen positive effects it will have on your blood lipid profile Very insightful and informative as always, keep up the great work Strat.

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    i'm in ... got a bottle of this stuff that I'm going to add to my recomp soon ... looking forward to this
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    PCS makes me so damn horney! and it gives me a boost in confidence/mood. I love it!

    Already off to an impressive start, Strat!
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    So it's the PCS that does this, I wasn't sure because I stacked it with Hyperdrol. This is why I am so interested in this log I want to figure out what does what. I bonced back so fast and really maintained a lot of mass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    So it's the PCS that does this, I wasn't sure because I stacked it with Hyperdrol. This is why I am so interested in this log I want to figure out what does what. I bonced back so fast and really maintained a lot of mass.
    Fastest Ive ever bounced back..EVER!! Hyperdrol made my nuts bigger but for some reason no increase in libido. Coulda been situational tho. As my ex wife and I were unhappy with eachother.
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    I just ordered some STOKED. Strategic is an intellectual supplement trend setter ose:
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    Ive never done a non SERM pct but I may have to get crazy and give it a shot!Good luck with the stack Strat!


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    Quote Originally Posted by mmowry View Post
    Ive never done a non SERM pct but I may have to get crazy and give it a shot!Good luck with the stack Strat!
    Most people are still throwing in a small dose SERM, just in case.
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    I might also as Im scared of change.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mmowry View Post
    I might also as Im scared of change.
    Im only using 10mg Nolva with my PSC/Sustain. Makes me more comfortable knowing I still have a SERM in there.
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    I have done only mild runs, only one 6 week Furazadrol cycle in the last 3 years. I had a serm but did not use it as shut down was mild. I didn't like it though, I am too much identified by my libido (it's been good to me). I am done with PH's for a while anyway. I am huge anyway, don't need more size the Furazadrol was to lose fat.
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    Hell yeah Strat, I was looking forward to this one! Yer gonna be makin' some strategic moves towards the opposite sex..
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    In...good luck Ike!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I am huge anyway, don't need more size the Furazadrol was to lose fat.

    I want to be huuuuge also! You do look great dreamweaver!


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    Quote Originally Posted by mmowry View Post
    I want to be huuuuge also! You do look great dreamweaver!
    Dream Weaver looks old to me



















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    This is going to be a great log with an abundant amount of info good or bad. SM you know I think you are one smart mofo and I am glad someone with your level of knowledge is logging this. I am interested in the effects of Stoked for non-PCT as I have seen it work in a few PCT's.

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    I too am STOKED to be here!

    thanks for the invite Strategic!
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    I start my run of STOKED in about...1 hour. Excited to compare your results with mine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mattikus View Post
    ...Yer gonna be makin' some strategic moves towards the opposite sex...
    What's on a man's mind, strategically asking?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Dream Weaver looks old to me



















    I kid I kid...had to throw it out there.
    I am fuggin old lol there is still life left and still like to look good for the ladies especially now that I am in manopause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I am fuggin old lol there is still life left and still like to look good for the ladies especially now that I am in manopause.
    Age is a function of the mind. DreamWeaver is not "fuggin old"!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob Awesome View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    Age is a function of the mind. DreamWeaver is not "fuggin old"!
    Yes fortunately I am very immature and quite oblivious to the fact that I am getting on in years. I am in complete denial.
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    Damn, this thing hit the ground running!

    Enjoy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    Sweet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Yes fortunately I am very immature and quite oblivious to the fact that I am getting on in years. I am in complete denial.
    WHO CARES!! As long as you're happy and its keeping your mind young. Thats what matter most. High Five for being immature!
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    Your doing a great job bro
    Ask me for samples of the new RecoverPRO and Maniac. 3Z is coming July 1st Facebook for more info and maybe a great deal on it coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pembroke3355 View Post
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    Next update will be later in the day today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    Next update will be later in the day today.
    looking forward to it bro
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    Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    Of?

    Yourself, like before and after shots to see the effect of the product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX;
    Yourself, like before and after shots to see the effect of the product.
    I am not sure how that would do justice to the product, as I neither use it for bulking nor for cutting...
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    What are your goals for this then? Libido?
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    Quote Originally Posted by metroba View Post
    What are your goals for this then? Libido?
    to live longer than moses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    to live longer than moses.
    As a minimum!
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    Quote Originally Posted by metroba;
    What are your goals for this then? Libido?
    Fortunately, I have no challenges in this area. As I stated earlier, my main attraction to the product was to harness its general properties. Improvements in testosterone:estrogen and testosterone:cortisol ratios, improved arterial circulation/vasodilation and vascularity, stable or improved sexual performance, some lipolysis arising from higher testosterone levels and controlled cortisol, and so on. All these can happen, regardless of bulking or not, and may not be captured by before-and-after pictures.
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