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    D's 11-oxo log (unsponsored)


    On Monday April 7th I will start a four week cycle and log of 11-oxo (aka andrenosterone).

    I will begin the cycle with 300 mgs. of 11-oxo daily, and will make any increases or decreases based on how I feel/results. However, this will not be an 11-oxo megadose log.

    After the 11-oxo I will run AX's aPCT for four weeks.

    I will run the 11-oxo along with:

    Fish Oil 9-12 grams daily
    Vitamin C - 2-3 grams daily
    Glucosamine/Chondrotin/MSM (recommended dose)
    ON Whey Protein
    Muscle Milk before bed

    I will be stopping my current regimine of Creatine Mono and Beta Alanine to run this cycle.

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    Age - 29
    Weight - 269
    Height - 6'1.7"
    Training Experience - approx. 7 years

    Goals:

    My goals are simple enough, lose fat while maintaining muscle. The reason I started training again in the first place was an attempt to rehabilitate my spine via strengthening my muscles and taking some strain off my back. I also wanted to lose some weight figuring that would help my back out as well. Thus far my training has helped my back pain, but I have managed to gain 19 lbs. in the process. Most of the weight gain is water and muscle, but my pants are fitting a bit tighter so its not all good.

    Measurements

    I don't know what my BF% is, I would guess its in the mid 20's, so I will have to gauge my progress based on measurements. My cold measurements are as follows:

    Neck - 18.2"
    Chest - 47"
    Gut (at the fattest part) - 47.5"
    Upper Arms - 18.8"
    Forearms - 14.2"
    Thighs - 26"
    Calves - 16"

    The vast majority of my bodyfat is stored in my lower abdomen, and it is an absolute ***** to get rid of. Granted, right now my stomach is bigger than it should be, the thinnest I have ever been was a 34" in the gut and I usually hover around 38-40"

    I will try and post some pics for before and afters.

    Training Program:

    I train high volume, high intensity, and compound free weight movements are my bread and butter.

    My split will be as follows:

    Monday - Chest & Tri's & Forearms
    Tuesday - Legs
    Wednesday - Off (cardio)
    Thursday - Back & Bi's & Forearms
    Friday - Shoulders & traps
    Saturday & Sunday Off (cardio)

    I live very far away from the nearest gym, so I train at home. The only place where this hinders me is with cardio since it has to be done outdoors.

    I don't know my 1 rep max on any lift, because I am injury prone. I will gauge any strength increases or decreases based on the amount of reps/weight I can get on a given exercise.

    This is my first log, so I welcome advice/criticism in order to make improvements where necessary.

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    good luck to you, this seems like a very sensible cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    good luck to you, this seems like a very sensible cycle.
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    I'll be following. I like seeing the lower dosed adrenosterone logs since it is so damned expensive that's the only way I'll ever be able to run it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by fayd View Post
    I'll be following. I like seeing the lower dosed adrenosterone logs since it is so damned expensive that's the only way I'll ever be able to run it...
    Not just the expense (and maybe I am wrong here), but it seems like there are much better mass building compounds out there than 11-oxo at 700-900 mg daily. If my goal was to build more mass the PH/PS route I would either wait for 3-AD or go with the tried and true Epi compounds.
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    Yes, that's a very good pt. ^
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    Since it takes over 6 weeks for creatine levels to return to baseline, do you think it would make more sense to just maintain your normal creatine regime as opposed to letting your creatine level to slowly taper off during cycle?
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    Day 1

    Today I took my first 100 mg dose of 11-oxo with my breakfast. Within about 40 minutes of taking the 11-oxo I did notice a slight euphoric feeling, which is still lingering around. Its only noticeable when sitting still.

    Todays workout was cut short by an unsettling pain in my left pec during my 3rd decline bench set. I had the same pain last week in the beginning of my chest workout, I attributed it to being not properly warmed up, but today I was definately sufficiently warmed up. Suffice to say the pain cut my chest work short, and I will take it very easy on chest for the next week or two.

    My workout went as follows:

    Chest

    Incline Smith Press:
    1x12 135
    1x6 185
    1x6 185
    1x5 195
    1x5 205

    Decline Smith Press:
    1x14 135
    1x6 185
    1x6 205 (on my 6th rep is where the pain set in)

    Triceps (due to the pain in my pec I was unable to perform my usual close grip bench for tri's)

    Skullcrushers:
    1x10 85
    1x9 85
    1x8 85

    Ez bar overhead extensions:
    1x25 45
    1x12 75
    1x10 85

    Forearms:
    Palm up followed by palm down 1 set of 20 reps each

    Reverse curls:
    1x10 75
    1x10 75
    1x14 55

    Other than the pec issue my workout went fine, and I felt really good. I kind of anticipated being a bit sluggish due to my coming off of beta alanine as a pre workout supp.

    I had a good pump during and after the workout, but I cannot definately attribute that to the 11-oxo.

    I will enter another log today if I notice anything worth reporting with my subsequent dosing of the 11-oxo.

    Tomorrows log will come a bit later in the day as I will have to workout in the evening, other than that most of my logs should be ready around this time of day.
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    im in, looking to run 11oxo as my first PH in the coming months
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dadof2 View Post
    Day 1

    Today I took my first 100 mg dose of 11-oxo with my breakfast. Within about 40 minutes of taking the 11-oxo I did notice a slight euphoric feeling, which is still lingering around. Its only noticeable when sitting still.

    Todays workout was cut short by an unsettling pain in my left pec during my 3rd decline bench set. I had the same pain last week in the beginning of my chest workout, I attributed it to being not properly warmed up, but today I was definately sufficiently warmed up. Suffice to say the pain cut my chest work short, and I will take it very easy on chest for the next week or two.

    My workout went as follows:

    Chest

    Incline Smith Press:
    1x12 135
    1x6 185
    1x6 185
    1x5 195
    1x5 205

    Decline Smith Press:
    1x14 135
    1x6 185
    1x6 205 (on my 6th rep is where the pain set in)

    Triceps (due to the pain in my pec I was unable to perform my usual close grip bench for tri's)

    Skullcrushers:
    1x10 85
    1x9 85
    1x8 85

    Ez bar overhead extensions:
    1x25 45
    1x12 75
    1x10 85

    Forearms:
    Palm up followed by palm down 1 set of 20 reps each

    Reverse curls:
    1x10 75
    1x10 75
    1x14 55

    Other than the pec issue my workout went fine, and I felt really good. I kind of anticipated being a bit sluggish due to my coming off of beta alanine as a pre workout supp.

    I had a good pump during and after the workout, but I cannot definately attribute that to the 11-oxo.

    I will enter another log today if I notice anything worth reporting with my subsequent dosing of the 11-oxo.

    Tomorrows log will come a bit later in the day as I will have to workout in the evening, other than that most of my logs should be ready around this time of day.
    not to nit-pick or anything, but it is unlikely you took 100mg. looking at the bottle in front of me, 3 caps=225mg which=75mg per cap. log looks good though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    not to nit-pick or anything, but it is unlikely you took 100mg. looking at the bottle in front of me, 3 caps=225mg which=75mg per cap. log looks good though.
    I bought 2 bottles of Fast Action Pharma 11-test, its 11-oxo dosed at 50 mg per pill, and 1 bottle of Ergopharms 11-oxo which is likely the one that you are referring to.
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    I haven't had the opportunity to work out yet today, I should be able to do so within the next couple of hours. After I do that I will update the log with how it went.

    There are three things that I want to report on for the sake of being thorough:

    I did not get a very good nights sleep last night, it was like I couldn't turn off basically. I cannot say for sure if it was the 11-oxo as I did watch the new Bond movie right before bed.

    I also noticed a bit of hair in the sink this morning. I am almost certain that this is due to my being hyper-paranoid about this, but I am logging it just to make sure.

    The third thing is that I did get a bit extra aggitated this morning about having to take an unexpected detour. However, this was probably due to my not getting a good night's sleep and worrying about my hairline .

    Again, I will return within the next couple of hours to report on my Day 2 workout.
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    Day 2

    Today was leg day. My workout was as follows:

    Squat:

    1x25 135
    1x20 185
    1x20 195
    1x20 225

    As I noted earlier I work out at home, and as such I have had to improvise on some movements. The leg press is one such movement. I cannot afford a leg press machine, so I utilize my Smith machine to perform leg presses. This is probably not a good idea, and I don't recommend it for you. I will refer to this movement as the Smith Leg Press.

    Smith Leg Press

    1x15 205
    1x15 205
    1x9 255
    1x9 255

    Calf raises

    1x30 205
    1x25 255
    1x25 255

    and I finished up with numerous unilateral calf extensions that I don't feel like logging

    I didn't notice anything different during my workout, but leg day is a tough day to judge because its always ends with my wanting to die every time I take a step.

    I did notice that I couldn't finish my lunch today, and I haven't been very hungry since. After I finish on AM I have to go fix my meals for the week. Once I have my meals organized it will be easier to determine whether or not my appetite has been affected one way or the other.
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    good detailed log. how are you combining the 11oxo/1 test? this sounds interesting as a way to cut cost. more i think about it more i like it, might run mine same way. great idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    good detailed log. how are you combining the 11oxo/1 test? this sounds interesting as a way to cut cost. more i think about it more i like it, might run mine same way. great idea.


    My tentative plan is to run one entire bottle of 11 test at 300 mg daily to guage effectiveness and dosing. So that will be my first 10 days.

    If I stay at 300 mg. I would like to try the 11-oxo at two 150 mg doses throughout the day for a couple of days to see how that works out. If everything is going well with the cycle and I decide to increase to 350/400 mg I will likely dose it:

    11-oxo @ 150 mg twice daily
    11-test @ 100 mg once daily

    or

    11-oxo @ 150 mg twice daily
    11-test @ 50 mg twice daily
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    Today is a rest day for me, so no weights for me. I also will not be getting any cardio today as I have to help out at my parents house.

    I slept very well last night, so it probably was "Casino Royale" that made it so difficult for me to sleep the other night. I am also still in possession of my pre-adrenosterone hairline

    I am going to work with the AM diet tracker at some point during this log, but today I just don't have the time.

    So far today I ate 1/4 lb. sirloin burger, no bread/bun, and for my second meal I ate a pepper stuffed with ground round. I am keeping things high protein/mod fat/low carbs.


    Everything's cool so far, I am definately looking forward to seeing some results in the coming weeks.
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    Sub a dub...Let's see what this can do for a big boy like you!
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    subbed...I've been interested in seeing 11-OXO ran at low doses.
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    good luck dadof2 .. before starting this cycle, what's your goal ? to gain lean mass/weight ..get cut ?

    i wish i had a gym in home ..actually no then i would be lazy lol
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    i believe from reading logs, that 11-oxo kicks in fast compared to other ph's. i bet you will be seeing a decent increase in strength the first week or so. stl, posted his strength peaked at 2 weeks in. this should be good news, i am on day 11 of primal male and still waiting.
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    Looks good bro. I ran 11oxo @ 300mg ed and had great results. I leaned out really well. I did notice a peak in strength about 2 weeks in and then the gains just seemed to taper off. After the cycle was over I ended up losing 2 pounds and leaned up really nice. I believe that you will like this cycle, I did. The biggest thing I noticed on cycle was that I was constantly hungry. I couldn't get enough to eat and I still lost 2 pounds over 30 days. I know 2 pounds doesn't sound like much but it was very noticable looking into the mirror. Good luck. I will be following.
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    Day 4

    Last night I went to sleep at 11pm, and was wide awake by 3:20 am....and that was all the that I managed to get. That makes two days of insomnia since on cycle, and I haven't had trouble sleeping in years (the only sleep trouble I ever had in my life was the year following my spine injuries, it is very hard to sleep when you back is hurting).

    I gave this some thought, and I really didn't want to do this, but I really have no choice. I have to add another supplement to this cycle. I had a bottle of Powerfull that I was saving for a future RPM/Drive/Powerfull stack, but I started the Powerfull today. I will use it to get some rest tonight, and try not using it tomorrow. I really want, and I know you all do, to see what 11-oxo is capable of on its own. However, if I am not getting any sleep then I am not going to see much in the way of gains anyway.

    Needless to say I had a rough workout, and I had little energy going into it. I felt strong considering just how tired I am, and I feel pretty confident in saying that I would have had a great workout if I wasn't so tired.

    Workout - Back & Biceps

    Deadlifts

    1x10 135
    1x6 205
    1x5 255
    1x4 255

    Pullups

    6x7

    Reverse Grip Pulldowns

    11x165
    9x165
    7x190


    Biceps


    Barbell Curls

    1x11 55
    1x10 65
    1x7 95

    Concentration Curls

    2x7 30

    Hammer Curls

    2x11 30


    I have a couple of photos to upload to this log. I took them today, I figured I better get them in before I start seeing results.
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    Quote Originally Posted by psychobabble View Post
    good luck dadof2 .. before starting this cycle, what's your goal ? to gain lean mass/weight ..get cut ?

    i wish i had a gym in home ..actually no then i would be lazy lol

    I want to lose fat while maintaining the muscle that I have regained since taking up weight training again. It is very tough for me to lose weight without giving up muscle, so andrenosterone is very attractive to me.

    As far as working out at home, right now I do it as a necessity as the nearest gym is just too far away. Now I would much rather belong to a good gym, but I would rather work out at home than some craptastic fitness club.

    For the most part working out at home is pretty cool. There are no dumbasses to deal with, no waiting for machines, and my music does not suck. The downside is that I don't much room to work with, and I need some more dumbbells. I primarily stick to free weights, but when I do need to use my smith machine or cable attachments they aren't nearly as good as what you would find in a commercial gym.
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    I forgot to take a before pic, so here are a couple of pics 4 days into the cycle:
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    Quote Originally Posted by stl123 View Post
    Looks good bro. I ran 11oxo @ 300mg ed and had great results. I leaned out really well. I did notice a peak in strength about 2 weeks in and then the gains just seemed to taper off. After the cycle was over I ended up losing 2 pounds and leaned up really nice. I believe that you will like this cycle, I did. The biggest thing I noticed on cycle was that I was constantly hungry. I couldn't get enough to eat and I still lost 2 pounds over 30 days. I know 2 pounds doesn't sound like much but it was very noticable looking into the mirror. Good luck. I will be following.

    I followed your log, it played a part in my deciding on 11-oxo. I have been in and out of your new log, how are you liking LG's MMv2 product?

    I am already contemplating what I will do next. At some point I will run:

    an Epi compound( I am going to get this soon, even if I wait a while to run it)

    I am torn between trying MMv2 and 3-ad next. I am always up for cutting , especially now, but I am still nowhere near where I want to be right now strength wise.

    Decisions ,decisions
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    how long have you been training?
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    Quote Originally Posted by u571 View Post
    how long have you been training?
    About 5 months now, but I am coming off a long layoff.

    I started working out when I was 15-16, and was mostly self taught. I joined a small local gym when I was 18 and befriended the owner who was an ameature bodybuilder/regional bench press champion. He taught me how to train and eat properly, and I trained with him until I was about 22.

    Once I started my career I stopped training consistently, and eventually I stopped training altogether. Then I hurt my spine and stayed layed up for a very long time.

    I started training again around Christmas of '07 (with my Doctors blessing) in an effort to help eleminate my back pain. I started out really slow and easy, as not to further aggravate my injuries. Not only did the training help the pain, but I started rebuilding my muscles a lot quicker than I had anticipated.

    I am still nowhere near where I was size or strength wise, but I am definately feeling much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dadof2 View Post
    About 5 months now, but I am coming off a long layoff.

    I started working out when I was 15-16, and was mostly self taught. I joined a small local gym when I was 18 and befriended the owner who was an ameature bodybuilder/regional bench press champion. He taught me how to train and eat properly, and I trained with him until I was about 22.

    Once I started my career I stopped training consistently, and eventually I stopped training altogether. Then I hurt my spine and stayed layed up for a very long time.

    I started training again around Christmas of '07 (with my Doctors blessing) in an effort to help eleminate my back pain. I started out really slow and easy, as not to further aggravate my injuries. Not only did the training help the pain, but I started rebuilding my muscles a lot quicker than I had anticipated.

    I am still nowhere near where I was size or strength wise, but I am definately feeling much better.
    slow and steady, hate to see you overdo it and re-injure yourself. you are still young, you have lots of time.
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    Day 5

    I took some Powerfull before bed last night, and I slept like a champ. I woke up feeling great, and it set the tone for the rest of the day.

    I noticed today that my muscles are fuller, not so much pumped, but fuller. Anytime I eat a lot of red meat, which I am doing right now, they are a bit fuller, but today this is much more pronounced than usual.

    As far as sides go everything is so far so good, no pimples, no shedding, and just a mild change in my temperament. I am a little more easily agitated today than usual.

    On to the workout:

    Shoulders & Traps


    Hang cleans

    1x7 95
    1x8 95
    1x5 115
    1x5 115

    Upright Rows

    1x7 115
    1x7 115
    1x6 115
    1x6 115

    Standing Barbell Shoulder Presses

    1x8 115
    1x7 115
    1x7 115

    Shrugs

    1x20 135
    1x10 205
    1x10 205


    Todays workout was amazing. I had what I can only describe as "intense focused aggression". Its like I was pissed off at my weights and I wanted to eat their children (as Mike Tyson might say). I always make an effort to train intensely, but there was no effort today, I was just ready. Something kicked in big time today. I don't know if its the andrenosterone rearing its head, or the Powerfull, or a mixture of the two. All I know is that I like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    slow and steady, hate to see you overdo it and re-injure yourself. you are still young, you have lots of time.
    Yeah no doubt about it. I take it easy on the movements that really stress my spine, and give my body lots of time to build up adequate muscle support and strength before I increase the weight on those lifts.
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    Sunday April 13, 2008

    Day 7

    Saturday and Sunday are off days for me, so no workouts to log. However, I do have my weight and measurements to post.

    Last Sunday I weighed and measured myself before starting cycle:

    Weight 269

    Neck - 18.2"
    Chest - 47"
    Gut (at the fattest part) - 47.5"
    Upper Arms - 18.8"
    Forearms - 14.2"
    Thighs - 26"
    Calves - 16"

    This morning my weight and measurements are as follows:

    Weight 271.5

    Neck - 18.2"
    Chest - 47.5"
    Gut - 47.2"
    Upper Arms - 18.8"
    Forearms - 14.3"
    Thighs - 26.4"
    Calves - 16"

    So in summary I have a very slight reduction in my belly measurement, and slight increases in the chest, forearms, and thighs with a 1.5 lb. weight gain.

    I was checking my workout journal while logging my new measurements, and found these measurements from Feb. 11, 2008

    Weight 258.5

    (no neck and forearm measurements available)

    Chest - 48"
    Gut - 48.5"
    Upper arms - 18"
    Thighs - 24.3"
    Calves - 16" (my calves are just about impossible to grow)

    This week I am going to change things up just a bit. On chest day I am not going to work chest, because of last weeks left pec pain. I would rather miss one workout than get injured and miss a dozen.

    I am also going to do cardio after my workouts, as opposed to trying to do it on my off days. I am also going to reduce my carbs a bit.


    As far as sides go, the only side that I can definately see is increased aggression. I had a great night of sleep last night without taking Powerfull before bed, so I hope that I do not have to rely on Powerfull as a sleep aid from here on out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dadof2 View Post
    Sunday April 12, 2008

    Day 7

    Saturday and Sunday are off days for me, so no workouts to log. However, I do have my weight and measurements to post.

    Last Sunday I weighed and measured myself before starting cycle:

    Weight 269

    Neck - 18.2"
    Chest - 47"
    Gut (at the fattest part) - 47.5"
    Upper Arms - 18.8"
    Forearms - 14.2"
    Thighs - 26"
    Calves - 16"

    This morning my weight and measurements are as follows:

    Weight 271.5

    Neck - 18.2"
    Chest - 47.5"
    Gut - 47.2"
    Upper Arms - 18.8"
    Forearms - 14.3"
    Thighs - 26.4"
    Calves - 16"

    So in summary I have a very slight reduction in my belly measurement, and slight increases in the chest, forearms, and thighs with a 1.5 lb. weight gain.

    I was checking my workout journal while logging my new measurements, and found these measurements from Feb. 11, 2008

    Weight 258.5

    (no neck and forearm measurements available)

    Chest - 48"
    Gut - 48.5"
    Upper arms - 18"
    Thighs - 24.3"
    Calves - 16" (my calves are just about impossible to grow)

    This week I am going to change things up just a bit. On chest day I am not going to work chest, because of last weeks left pec pain. I would rather miss one workout than get injured and miss a dozen.

    I am also going to do cardio after my workouts, as opposed to trying to do it on my off days. I am also going to reduce my carbs a bit.


    As far as sides go, the only side that I can definately see is increased aggression. I had a great night of sleep last night without taking Powerfull before bed, so I hope that I do not have to rely on Powerfull as a sleep aid from here on out.
    you have gained 13 pounds and lost some gut, nice. looks like your routine must be working. when i do my cycle i wont even care what i weigh if i can knock 2 inches off my waist. be nice to fit in 36's again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    you have gained 13 pounds and lost some gut, nice. looks like your routine must be working. when i do my cycle i wont even care what i weigh if i can knock 2 inches off my waist. be nice to fit in 36's again.
    In March we had a family crisis that kept me away from the weights and off my diet for almost two weeks, but overall I am very happy with my progress thus far.

    I need to lose some fat though, because I could easily put on another 15 -20 lbs of muscle before I get back to my prior form, and my body is definately getting there fast. I don't want to get to 280, 290 with my spine problems. The less weight my spine bears, the less pain I experience.

    I was contemplating running Epidrol next, but based on my weight gain thus far I am definately leaning towards Furazadrol. I read some of your experiences with it, and that stuff is looking really good about right now.

    If I could drop down to a lean 220-230, then I would be primed for an Epi cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dadof2 View Post
    In March we had a family crisis that kept me away from the weights and off my diet for almost two weeks, but overall I am very happy with my progress thus far.

    I need to lose some fat though, because I could easily put on another 15 -20 lbs of muscle before I get back to my prior form, and my body is definately getting there fast. I don't want to get to 280, 290 with my spine problems. The less weight my spine bears, the less pain I experience.

    I was contemplating running Epidrol next, but based on my weight gain thus far I am definately leaning towards Furazadrol. I read some of your experiences with it, and that stuff is looking really good about right now.

    If I could drop down to a lean 220-230, then I would be primed for an Epi cycle.
    the first time i ran furazadrol i had killer results. ive ran it 3 times now and each time with diminishing results. but like i said the first time was real good, ran it with td formestane and lost around 10 pounds of mostly bf. ran diesel test hardcore on pct and continued to lean out. much as i love fura its time to change it up, this time will be mmv2/11oxo/formestane. might be nice to add furazadrol to your 11oxo and continue to run it for at least a month at 4-6 caps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    the first time i ran furazadrol i had killer results. ive ran it 3 times now and each time with diminishing results. but like i said the first time was real good, ran it with td formestane and lost around 10 pounds of mostly bf. ran diesel test hardcore on pct and continued to lean out. much as i love fura its time to change it up, this time will be mmv2/11oxo/formestane. might be nice to add furazadrol to your 11oxo and continue to run it for at least a month at 4-6 caps.
    what is your pct going to look like for mmv2/11oxo/formestane?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dadof2 View Post
    what is your pct going to look like for mmv2/11oxo/formestane?
    hdx2/dthc/lean extreme and primal male. going to add blue print if i get the ok from the wife, she's a little mad about my spending right now. hehe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    hdx2/dthc/lean extreme and primal male. going to add blue print if i get the ok from the wife, she's a little mad about my spending right now. hehe.

    Have you ever tried propadrol?
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