[Dadof2]

On Monday April 7th I will start a four week cycle and log of 11-oxo (aka andrenosterone).

I will begin the cycle with 300 mgs. of 11-oxo daily, and will make any increases or decreases based on how I feel/results. However, this will not be an 11-oxo megadose log.

After the 11-oxo I will run AX's aPCT for four weeks.

I will run the 11-oxo along with:

Fish Oil 9-12 grams daily
Vitamin C - 2-3 grams daily
Glucosamine/Chondrotin/MSM (recommended dose)
ON Whey Protein
Muscle Milk before bed

I will be stopping my current regimine of Creatine Mono and Beta Alanine to run this cycle.

Stats:

Age - 29
Weight - 269
Height - 6'1.7"
Training Experience - approx. 7 years

Goals:

My goals are simple enough, lose fat while maintaining muscle. The reason I started training again in the first place was an attempt to rehabilitate my spine via strengthening my muscles and taking some strain off my back. I also wanted to lose some weight figuring that would help my back out as well. Thus far my training has helped my back pain, but I have managed to gain 19 lbs. in the process. Most of the weight gain is water and muscle, but my pants are fitting a bit tighter so its not all good.

Measurements

I don't know what my BF% is, I would guess its in the mid 20's, so I will have to gauge my progress based on measurements. My cold measurements are as follows:

Neck - 18.2"
Chest - 47"
Gut (at the fattest part) - 47.5"
Upper Arms - 18.8"
Forearms - 14.2"
Thighs - 26"
Calves - 16"

The vast majority of my bodyfat is stored in my lower abdomen, and it is an absolute ***** to get rid of. Granted, right now my stomach is bigger than it should be, the thinnest I have ever been was a 34" in the gut and I usually hover around 38-40"

I will try and post some pics for before and afters.

Training Program:

I train high volume, high intensity, and compound free weight movements are my bread and butter.

My split will be as follows:

Monday - Chest & Tri's & Forearms
Tuesday - Legs
Wednesday - Off (cardio)
Thursday - Back & Bi's & Forearms
Friday - Shoulders & traps
Saturday & Sunday Off (cardio)

I live very far away from the nearest gym, so I train at home. The only place where this hinders me is with cardio since it has to be done outdoors.

I don't know my 1 rep max on any lift, because I am injury prone. I will gauge any strength increases or decreases based on the amount of reps/weight I can get on a given exercise.

This is my first log, so I welcome advice/criticism in order to make improvements where necessary.

[thebigt]

good luck to you, this seems like a very sensible cycle.

[Dadof2]

Originally Posted by thebigt

good luck to you, this seems like a very sensible cycle.

Thanks.

[fayd]

I'll be following. I like seeing the lower dosed adrenosterone logs since it is so damned expensive that's the only way I'll ever be able to run it...

[Dadof2]

Originally Posted by fayd

I'll be following. I like seeing the lower dosed adrenosterone logs since it is so damned expensive that's the only way I'll ever be able to run it...

Not just the expense (and maybe I am wrong here), but it seems like there are much better mass building compounds out there than 11-oxo at 700-900 mg daily. If my goal was to build more mass the PH/PS route I would either wait for 3-AD or go with the tried and true Epi compounds.

[fayd]

Yes, that's a very good pt. ^

[u571]

Since it takes over 6 weeks for creatine levels to return to baseline, do you think it would make more sense to just maintain your normal creatine regime as opposed to letting your creatine level to slowly taper off during cycle?

[Dadof2]

Day 1

Today I took my first 100 mg dose of 11-oxo with my breakfast. Within about 40 minutes of taking the 11-oxo I did notice a slight euphoric feeling, which is still lingering around. Its only noticeable when sitting still.

Todays workout was cut short by an unsettling pain in my left pec during my 3rd decline bench set. I had the same pain last week in the beginning of my chest workout, I attributed it to being not properly warmed up, but today I was definately sufficiently warmed up. Suffice to say the pain cut my chest work short, and I will take it very easy on chest for the next week or two.

My workout went as follows:

Chest

Incline Smith Press:
1x12 135
1x6 185
1x6 185
1x5 195
1x5 205

Decline Smith Press:
1x14 135
1x6 185
1x6 205 (on my 6th rep is where the pain set in)

Triceps (due to the pain in my pec I was unable to perform my usual close grip bench for tri's)

Skullcrushers:
1x10 85
1x9 85
1x8 85

Ez bar overhead extensions:
1x25 45
1x12 75
1x10 85

Forearms:
Palm up followed by palm down 1 set of 20 reps each

Reverse curls:
1x10 75
1x10 75
1x14 55

Other than the pec issue my workout went fine, and I felt really good. I kind of anticipated being a bit sluggish due to my coming off of beta alanine as a pre workout supp.

I had a good pump during and after the workout, but I cannot definately attribute that to the 11-oxo.

I will enter another log today if I notice anything worth reporting with my subsequent dosing of the 11-oxo.

Tomorrows log will come a bit later in the day as I will have to workout in the evening, other than that most of my logs should be ready around this time of day.

[JDF]

im in, looking to run 11oxo as my first PH in the coming months

[thebigt]

Originally Posted by Dadof2

Day 1

Today I took my first 100 mg dose of 11-oxo with my breakfast. Within about 40 minutes of taking the 11-oxo I did notice a slight euphoric feeling, which is still lingering around. Its only noticeable when sitting still.

Todays workout was cut short by an unsettling pain in my left pec during my 3rd decline bench set. I had the same pain last week in the beginning of my chest workout, I attributed it to being not properly warmed up, but today I was definately sufficiently warmed up. Suffice to say the pain cut my chest work short, and I will take it very easy on chest for the next week or two.

My workout went as follows:

Chest

Incline Smith Press:
1x12 135
1x6 185
1x6 185
1x5 195
1x5 205

Decline Smith Press:
1x14 135
1x6 185
1x6 205 (on my 6th rep is where the pain set in)

Triceps (due to the pain in my pec I was unable to perform my usual close grip bench for tri's)

Skullcrushers:
1x10 85
1x9 85
1x8 85

Ez bar overhead extensions:
1x25 45
1x12 75
1x10 85

Forearms:
Palm up followed by palm down 1 set of 20 reps each

Reverse curls:
1x10 75
1x10 75
1x14 55

Other than the pec issue my workout went fine, and I felt really good. I kind of anticipated being a bit sluggish due to my coming off of beta alanine as a pre workout supp.

I had a good pump during and after the workout, but I cannot definately attribute that to the 11-oxo.

I will enter another log today if I notice anything worth reporting with my subsequent dosing of the 11-oxo.

Tomorrows log will come a bit later in the day as I will have to workout in the evening, other than that most of my logs should be ready around this time of day.

not to nit-pick or anything, but it is unlikely you took 100mg. looking at the bottle in front of me, 3 caps=225mg which=75mg per cap. log looks good though.

[Dadof2]

Originally Posted by thebigt

not to nit-pick or anything, but it is unlikely you took 100mg. looking at the bottle in front of me, 3 caps=225mg which=75mg per cap. log looks good though.

I bought 2 bottles of Fast Action Pharma 11-test, its 11-oxo dosed at 50 mg per pill, and 1 bottle of Ergopharms 11-oxo which is likely the one that you are referring to.

[EasyEJL]

Have I ever mentioned that both my daughters (11+3) have a futurama obsession? its funny to hear the 3 year old repeat benders lines

[Dadof2]

Originally Posted by EasyEJL

Have I ever mentioned that both my daughters (11+3) have a futurama obsession? its funny to hear the 3 year old repeat benders lines

Yeah my boys like it too, and of course their favorite character is Bender. They just recently released a new Futurama DVD called "Bender's Big Score" they are also slated to release two more DVDs. Afterwards they are slated to air these new episodes on either Cartoon Network or Comedy Central I can't remember offhand.

[EasyEJL]

cartoon network when they originally bought the rights to it for their Adult Swim, it got the highest viewership of any show they had ever played I keep all the episodes on my zune as well, nice for cardio Bendin in the wind is probably my favorite for that

[Dadof2]

I haven't had the opportunity to work out yet today, I should be able to do so within the next couple of hours. After I do that I will update the log with how it went.

There are three things that I want to report on for the sake of being thorough:

I did not get a very good nights sleep last night, it was like I couldn't turn off basically. I cannot say for sure if it was the 11-oxo as I did watch the new Bond movie right before bed.

I also noticed a bit of hair in the sink this morning. I am almost certain that this is due to my being hyper-paranoid about this, but I am logging it just to make sure.

The third thing is that I did get a bit extra aggitated this morning about having to take an unexpected detour. However, this was probably due to my not getting a good night's sleep and worrying about my hairline .

Again, I will return within the next couple of hours to report on my Day 2 workout.