cutting with LG mmv2

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    Checked my blood pressure just last week. And it was AFTER a 30 minute walk. It was 132 over 77!!! That's really good for my age and size. 43 years old and 265 lbs. So, I don't think it's the MMV2. But keep a close check on your BP dude!! Be safe!! THE THUNDERGOD


  2. front loading hawthorne berries works good for keeping bp at normal range while on cycle, probably to late to start now, but something to think about next time.
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID
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  3. thanks for all the replies guys. My high BP symptoms only lasted a few days, so I dunno if it was stress or what. Been sleeping fine the last few nights and no more nosebleeds (despite some picking). I have upped it to 2 MMV2 first thing in the AM and 2 more preworkout, this is making it easier for me to sleep at night. I did cardio in the AM yesterday and legs today, here's how it went:

    Squats: 315x5, 365x5, 405x5, 315x5

    I have been kinda stagnant on squats lately, so I will probably switch to a 20 rep set next week and go up 10 lbs. every week.

    Straight legged deads: I do these as a drop set, with 4 25 lbers on each side and take one off after each set of 8

    Standing smith calf raises: did a bunch of sets of these from 90 lbs. up to 270

    DB Step ups: 50 lbs. x 8 for 3 sets

    then stretching

    finished this with 20 min of cardio on the treadmill, with 3.5 minutes of 3.5 mph at a 5.0 incline and then 1.5 minutes of 6.5 mph at 0 incline. gonna add this in some postworkout

  4. Quote Originally Posted by warnerve View Post
    thanks for all the replies guys. My high BP symptoms only lasted a few days, so I dunno if it was stress or what. Been sleeping fine the last few nights and no more nosebleeds (despite some picking). I have upped it to 2 MMV2 first thing in the AM and 2 more preworkout, this is making it easier for me to sleep at night. I did cardio in the AM yesterday and legs today, here's how it went:

    Squats: 315x5, 365x5, 405x5, 315x5

    I have been kinda stagnant on squats lately, so I will probably switch to a 20 rep set next week and go up 10 lbs. every week.

    Straight legged deads: I do these as a drop set, with 4 25 lbers on each side and take one off after each set of 8

    Standing smith calf raises: did a bunch of sets of these from 90 lbs. up to 270

    DB Step ups: 50 lbs. x 8 for 3 sets

    then stretching

    finished this with 20 min of cardio on the treadmill, with 3.5 minutes of 3.5 mph at a 5.0 incline and then 1.5 minutes of 6.5 mph at 0 incline. gonna add this in some postworkout
    glad to see you are better...
    WELL DONE IS BETTER THAN WELL SAID

  5. I need to regularize my cardio, get into some pattern of what days I do it, and do it consistently
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  6. I was in a hurry today to get my workout in before work, so I went drop sets on everything except DB press

    DB press: 120s x 14, 7, 3
    Smith Shoulder Press: 190x6, 170x8, 160x8
    Hammer Incline: 240x8, 190x8, 140x8
    Overhead Tricep extension: 45sx8, 40sx8, 35sx8, 30sx8
    Leaning side lateral: 50sx10, 45sx10, 40sx10, 35sx10, 30sx10
    Rope Pushdown: 130x8, 120x8, 110x7, 100x6, 90x5, 80x5

    Then stretched. No cardio today since I was in a hurry, today was the first day in about 6 days when I didn't do it. i haven't weighed myself lately, i will tomorrow. In about a week and a half I am going to be off the TTA, so that should make me lose another 5-10 lbs. of water. I believe I will also be getting my bodyfat measured again in the next couple weeks. still no more of the high BP symptoms, so I really don't think it was anything I am taking, so the only sides I am really seeing is occasional acne, which I get once in awhile anyways. Strength is climbing still with carbs down, which has never happened for me before.
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    I concur Warnerve, I also have never been able to remain so strong, while dieting so strictly. My carbs are way low right now. Yet, I feel strong and energetic. MMV2 rocks!!

  8. Quote Originally Posted by thundergod View Post
    I concur Warnerve, I also have never been able to remain so strong, while dieting so strictly. My carbs are way low right now. Yet, I feel strong and energetic. MMV2 rocks!!
    Yeah i have noticed this effect too.during the week the only time I eat carbs is after workout. Even with this lack of carbs I still am strong and not as tired as I should be.

  9. I am feeling good, and below 10mm on the bodyfat calipers! not the most impressive thing in some ways (means about 13-14%) but at the beginning of this log at about the same weight (within a lb) I was calipering in the 11-12mm (15-16%)range

    Definitely enjoying the mmv2!

  10. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    I am feeling good, and below 10mm on the bodyfat calipers! not the most impressive thing in some ways (means about 13-14%) but at the beginning of this log at about the same weight (within a lb) I was calipering in the 11-12 range

    Definitely enjoying the mmv2!
    So you have gained fat?

  11. no, I should have said "i'm now calipering at 9-10mm, was calipering at 11-12 mm. So now i'm at 13-14% where I started at 15% at the same bodyweight"
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    Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    no, I should have said "i'm now calipering at 9-10mm, was calipering at 11-12 mm. So now i'm at 13-14% where I started at 15% at the same bodyweight"
    Way to go there Easy!! That's a BIG difference. I've got veins blowed up bigger than I've seen them in over 7 years now. The biceps "rope" is bulging even when at rest! It's cool as fokk!! Way to go all you guys. hman, Warnerve you guys are rocking now! THE THUNDERGOD

  13. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    no, I should have said "i'm now calipering at 9-10mm, was calipering at 11-12 mm. So now i'm at 13-14% where I started at 15% at the same bodyweight"
    this is great to hear, like i said at the beginning, I am trying to cut as much as I can. any strength I gain is just a bonus! I am very pleased with how it's gone so far, and I still have probably 30 days or more left I came in at 272 today, so I am still losing a little weight. I am at about 100 grams of carbs a day now, with 175 grams of fat and about 350-400 protein, gonna cut the carbs down to about 40 grams of carbs in my core abc during my workout only in a week. do you guys think it'd be better for cutting to use something slow digesting, i.e. supercarb? I have some waxy maize, I know it's fast digesting, I have just heard conflicting stories on how much bodyfat it's gonna make me store if I am drinking it during my workout only

  14. and here was today's workout:

    Reverse grip shoulder width pulldown: 200x 10, 7, 4
    BB Bent over row: 185x10, 185x6, 135x 10, 135x5
    Lat Pushdown: 130x 15, 9, 5
    DB Curls: 45sx10, 5, 40sx9, 6, 35sx10, 5, 30sx10 all in one giant set. This was followed by 20 minutes of cardio in 3.5 minutes slow/1.5 minutes fast intervals

    My meals have stayed pretty much the same as of late, usually 8-10 drumsticks, one serving of red meat, and either an omelet or fish, along with approx. 1/3 of a jar of natural pb. I also go through about 1/3-1/2 a gallon of milk a day. my carbs are usually apples, greenbeans, and wheat bread/wraps

    Also, thanks to the guys who have been following along, I know my updates are really long and I tend to ramble

  15. I think if all you are taking in is 40g all at once, then the difference between sugar and wild rice is minimal. Its when you are taking in 300g a day spread thru the day that it matters

  16. Quote Originally Posted by warnerve View Post
    thanks for all the replies guys. My high BP symptoms only lasted a few days, so I dunno if it was stress or what. Been sleeping fine the last few nights and no more nosebleeds (despite some picking). I have upped it to 2 MMV2 first thing in the AM and 2 more preworkout, this is making it easier for me to sleep at night. I did cardio in the AM yesterday and legs today, here's how it went:

    Squats: 315x5, 365x5, 405x5, 315x5

    I have been kinda stagnant on squats lately, so I will probably switch to a 20 rep set next week and go up 10 lbs. every week.

    Straight legged deads: I do these as a drop set, with 4 25 lbers on each side and take one off after each set of 8

    Standing smith calf raises: did a bunch of sets of these from 90 lbs. up to 270

    DB Step ups: 50 lbs. x 8 for 3 sets

    then stretching

    finished this with 20 min of cardio on the treadmill, with 3.5 minutes of 3.5 mph at a 5.0 incline and then 1.5 minutes of 6.5 mph at 0 incline. gonna add this in some postworkout
    I take 2 of my 3 doses with food and the last one is in the evening and I sleep like a baby. If you take your last dose on an empty stomach, then you are going to be feeling the Yohimbine a little and that can prevent you from sleeping. Taking with food will help with the absobtion of the hormone.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Hyde12 View Post
    I take 2 of my 3 doses with food and the last one is in the evening and I sleep like a baby. If you take your last dose on an empty stomach, then you are going to be feeling the Yohimbine a little and that can prevent you from sleeping. Taking with food will help with the absobtion of the hormone.
    very good info, thanks man.

  18. Quote Originally Posted by warnerve View Post
    very good info, thanks man.
    No problem

  19. hey guys, sorry I have not updated for a few days, I have had a busy/stressful weekend, my car broke down so I am looking for a new one and my girlfriend and I also picked up a new puppy this weekend, in addition to going out last night for her best friend's birthday

    my lifts were down a little due to all this, as I haven't had a good full night's rest in a few days. here's how it went today:

    Bench: 275x6; 295x6; 315x4, 315x2
    Rack Deads: 405x5; 495x3, 495x3, 455x4
    Military: 185x5, 185x4, 175x5, 175x5
    Power Shrugs: 315x6 for 3 sets

    so this workout wasn't terrible by my standards, i just didn't have much improvement like I have had in the last few weeks. however, I am also keeping the carbs/cals down. libido is definitely up from the MMV2, and haven't had any problems sleeping since the beginning. It's very hard for me to tell what the receptor is doing, as I have never run MMV2 before.

  20. Good log so far broham! Im thinkin the general concensus of MMV2 is pretty badass!!
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    Good log so far broham! Im thinkin the general concensus of MMV2 is pretty badass!!
    It is VERY badass bro!! I love it and will use it on cycles to come for eternity!! THE THUNDERGOD

  22. Quote Originally Posted by 3clipseGT View Post
    Good log so far broham! Im thinkin the general concensus of MMV2 is pretty badass!!
    this with a good mass builder would be an awesome stack, or alone for cutting/strength. I have been pleased, and I was pretty skeptical at first

  23. alright, here is an update for today

    DB bench: 120sx15,6,3
    Smith shoulder: 180x9,6,4
    Hammer incline: 230x 12,8,5 with a hold on the last rep
    overhead EZ bar tricep extension: 95x 8,6,4
    I put this in instead of the DB extensions as I have gotten stagnant on those
    DB laterals: 25sx18, 12, 6
    Rope Pushdown: 130x15,10,6

    stretching then 30 min on elliptical

    strength is holding steady with carbs low, still very pleased. libido still up. only side I have had is some bad lingering lower back pumps that caused me to skip my squat day, although I think this is more due to the TTA and deads. Almost done the first bottle

  24. Those are some pretty beast numbers there Warnerve, keep it up man, log is looking solid.
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    DB Benches:120s x 15!!, now you're just showing off dude! JK!! Way to go Warnerve, that's some real impressive numbers for sure. I'm amazed at how much strength can be retained or even gained while dieting hard on this stuff. I like it ALOT!! THE THUNDERGOD

  26. today was back/bis

    wide grip pulldown: 200x10,7,3 with a hold on the last rep
    T bar row: 135x8,6,4
    Reverse pec deck: 140x12,9,5
    DB shrugs: 105sx12,8,5
    Incline Curls:35sx10,7,4
    Alternating DB hammer curls:45sx10,8,5
    Forearm curls

    Then stretching and 20 min of interval cardio on the treadmill. I love alternating between the running and uphill walk, but I get bad stomach cramps around the 18 min mark every time from my preworkout drink and my BCAAs during the workout

    I gave my room a pretty good clean up and happened to find an old bottle of LG NO infuse from a big NP sale awhile ago that was hidden away and used it preworkout, I was pretty impressed, I ended up looking pretty vascular for someone as fat as me lol

  27. tonight's workout:

    DB bench: 125sx11,6,2 with a negative
    Smith Shoulder:180x11,8,4
    Hammer Incline:230x14,9,5
    Overhead EZ bar tricep extension:115x9,6,4
    Leaning forward side laterals: 55sx12,9,5
    V Bar Pushdown: 130x13,8,5

    Strength has still held steady and gone up a little in a lot of stuff. I still have about 20 days worth left. I am kicking up the diet a notch, as I am down to 273 but still at 20%, so only down 2%. However, I am holding on to muscle very well, as I am down 20-some pounds but chest measured about the same, and arms were up half an inch. I started a keto type diet today, where I will only be getting carbs from Hood Carb countdown choc milk, nuts, peanut butter, and vegetables, all totaling about 30 grams or so. Additionally, I am gonna have 35 grams waxy maize during my workout only, and I will carb up once every 10 or so days.
    Last edited by warnerve; 04-29-2008 at 04:03 AM. Reason: mistyped

  28. update:

    I took the last 4 or 5 days off because I sprained my wrist and got a few cuts the other day at work and also because I hadn't taken any time off in about 2 months. I got back in the gym today and felt great. I have been doing a keto diet with one carb up meal since last weekend, with one cheat meal a week, which was a trip to phillip's buffet this past saturday
    my only carbs now is from Hood carb countdown milk, nuts, sunflower seeds, celery, and natty PB, with 35 grams of ON glycomaize during my workout with an ALA tab beforehand. I have also added gaspari thyrotabs about a week and a half ago and will add in lean xtreme2 in about a week. I also have added in Cold Fusion EX and lipo burn, as I got both really cheap.

    tonight's workout:

    DB Bench:125sx12,6,1 negative
    Smith Shoulder:180x13,6,3
    Hammer Incline:240x13,7,4 with a static hold at the end
    Overhead EZ bar extension:125x8,6,5
    Seated DB laterals-dropset:35sx8,30sx8,25sx10,20s x8 (1 second hold at the top on last set)
    Rope Pushdown:130x14,8,4

    Stretch

  29. Weights on your lifts seem to still be climbing. How many days do you have left?

  30. Quote Originally Posted by Nabisco View Post
    Weights on your lifts seem to still be climbing. How many days do you have left?
    11 days left. these lifts are still climbing/holding despite my keto-type diet, which is not normal for me at all. usually no carbs and i gotta drop the weights by a pretty notable amount
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