DaveGabe showin' off his Grand Bolas, aka DTH!!

[DaveGabe24]

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[DaveGabe24]

Ok well, I'll be running two bottles of DTH. Primary Goal is mass, secondary is strength. This thread was inspired by a debate Chuck had over at AM with Designer Supps, that DTH is better than ActX. I just recently ran two bottles of ActX a month or two ago, so this is going to be in direct comparison. I will log the benefits, experience, side effects, and workouts here.

I would like to thank Chuck for the opportunity, and much respect goes out to him for standing by his product and truly putting it to the test.

My split is going to be the same as my split when I used ActX. It's a 5 day split I've made up, moderate frequency, heavy weights, and sufficient rest.

Monday - Chest/Tri
Tuesday - Back/Bi
Wednesday - Legs
Thursday - Off
Friday - Chest/Back
Saturday - Legs

So the major muscle groups are hit twice a week, and smaller groups just once.

No other additional supplements are going to be added. Measurements will be taken tomorrow. I'll also have some pics up because I need them for my recomp contest anyway.

This should be an interesting log, so tomorrow is my first day of supplementing. Starting out @ 3 tabs for the first 5 days.

Any critiques/advice feel free to throw them at me.

[DaveGabe24]

Chest/Back

Incline DB

• 85 x 10
• 90 x 6
• 85 x 6

Pullups

• BW x 13
• BW x 6

Decline BB

• 135 x 10
• 185 x 6
• 185 x 6
• 185 x 6

T-Bar

• 135 x 10
• 180 x 8
• 135 x 12

The weight wasn't all that heavy tonight, but my negatives were ridiculous. Some were over 4-5 seconds on the last reps. Had a great workout, muscles felt full and pumped. Tomorrow, as I said, I'll start the DTH @ 3 tabs.

Pic of the Night:

[DaveGabe24]

Just took my first tab with 17oz. of water, going to have breakfast in about 15 minutes.

[Steveoph]

Thanks for doing this straight up comparison dave. Any chance you could post a link to your Activate Xtreme log? I searched your post history and couldn't find it.

[DaveGabe24]

Thanks for doing this straight up comparison dave. Any chance you could post a link to your Activate Xtreme log? I searched your post history and couldn't find it.

I didn't log it, but i did write a review at bb.com.

Was during my first semester of college, and had soem RL stuff going on. Wasn't able to do any sort of journal/logs unfortunately.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=5857661

That's the review. I can just copy/paste if it the bb.com link doesnt work.

[caveman]

great start Dave
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[DaveGabe24]

great start Dave
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Glad to have ya.

[Chuck Diesel]

I didn't log it, but i did write a review at bb.com.

Was during my first semester of college, and had soem RL stuff going on. Wasn't able to do any sort of journal/logs unfortunately.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=5857661

That's the review. I can just copy/paste if it the bb.com link doesnt work.

(sub) you can do is quote the bb.com post, then cut it and past it over here, that works also.

[EasyEJL]

should be interesting. nice workout split too btw, now you've got me considering adding a back/chest day

[3clipseGT]

I didnt see shoulders mentioned. Do you just get all the work from your back and chest movements? Split looks good and i like the training most def.

[DaveGabe24]

should be interesting. nice workout split too btw, now you've got me considering adding a back/chest day

Yeah I love it. Pretty simple, but I'm only 19 years old. I don't need some complex split, with the right diet, intense heavy training, the results will come. So this split does me well.

I didnt see shoulders mentioned. Do you just get all the work from your back and chest movements? Split looks good and i like the training most def.

Sorry, shoulders are hit on Leg day. Usually push-press and then some isolation.

[DaveGabe24]

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Cost

While cost is not always what should determine what supplements you want to purchase, it does effect the majority of us. In the case of ActivaTe Xtreme, I would not mind buying bottle after bottle solely because as a 19 year old, it's one of the few supplements aside from staples I'm willing to tamper with.

Sleep

My sleep has definitely improved overall. I can't compare this to the original ActivaTe'x effects on sleep, but I definitely noticed a deeper sleep. I was actually able to remember some dreams, which is unusual for me. Not sure if it is a correct assumption but I'm assuming that I must have been reaching a deeper REM to remember dreams, so that was definitely a nice benefit.

Vascularity/Pumps/Fullness

Pumps seemed to increase a bit, however even more significantly I was feeling much more vascular/full throughout the days not just in the gym. Everything seemed nice and tight from morning to night, and saw some nice improvements in the vascularity department as well.

Strength

This is where this product shined. I had been hitting a major bench plataeu (yes I know, pathetic at 19 years old). Whether this product helped me bust through it via placebo or genuine effectiveness I'm not complaining. Gained at least 2-3 reps on all my major exercises with the same weight, and in the lower rep ranges the weight went up around 5-8lbs in the big three.

Side Effects

Another area where this product shined....absolutely no side effects to speak of. Libido was up (not that I need it), had some acne(not much), but who's to say that's not because of my age. With products like this, there is absolutely NO REASON for anyone under 21 to be tampering with anything hormonal.

Overall

I was xtremely please with this product, and through the 26 days @ 5 caps a day I was able to pack on a solid 4lbs of muscle, and to be honest I've actually noticed some leaning-out in my abs area. I can't say enough about this product, and I think DS really hit it big with this one. DS continues to strive on innovation, and this is just another example of us consumers reaping the benefits. I did take measurements at the beginning of the first bottle, but I am going to wait till the end of the second to show improvements.

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• Sleep - 8/10
• Vascularity/Pumps/Fullness - 9/10
• Strength - 9/10
• Side Effects - 10/10
• Overall - 9/10

...

Ok well here's the final increase in measurements after completing the second bottle of AX. I would like to note that the measurements today have been taken after not having lifted for 5 days, and I believe the measurements taken 2 months ago were a day after. I do feel that these are truer "cold" measurements. However, I'm still decently pleased with the increases.

• Right Calf : +0.25''
• Left Calf : +0.25''
• Waist : +0.5''
• Left Bicep : +0.25''
• Right Bicep : +0.25''
• Right Forearm : +0.0
• Left Forearm: +0.0
• Chest : +0.75''
• Right Quad : +0.5''
• Left Quad : +0.5''

Overall, the increase in chest and quad was awesome. Strength is higher than ever, and I was able to hit all my goals.

[3clipseGT]

Yeah I love it. Pretty simple, but I'm only 19 years old. I don't need some complex split, with the right diet, intense heavy training, the results will come. So this split does me well.




Sorry, shoulders are hit on Leg day. Usually push-press and then some isolation.

Oh ok, i didnt know was all. Dont think im trying to bust ur chops lol. I like the split though and funny enough is i did back twice this week.

[sfearl1]

subbed. i'm doing two bottles of dthc myself right now.

[thebigt]

chuck picked a good one to do this, perfect choice. good luck,dave.

[DaveGabe24]

Oh ok, i didnt know was all. Dont think im trying to bust ur chops lol. I like the split though and funny enough is i did back twice this week.

Lol np, thanks for pointing it out.

[DaveGabe24]

subbed. i'm doing two bottles of dthc myself right now.

Sounds good man, best of luck.

chuck picked a good one to do this, perfect choice. good luck,dave.

Woohoo, appreciate the kind words bigt. Thanks for stoppin by man. This is going to get really interesting.

[DaveGabe24]

Still going with the 3 tabs, and tomorrow is the last day of that dosing scheme. Then I bump up to 5, probably something like 1-2-1-1.

Will post my measurements in a few minutes.

[Chuck Diesel]

Still going with the 3 tabs, and tomorrow is the last day of that dosing scheme. Then I bump up to 5, probably something like 1-2-1-1.

5/day should be 2/2/1 there is a chart on the bottle. The tabs are time released so there is no reason to take it 4x a day.