DaveGabe showin' off his Grand Bolas, aka DTH!!
- 05-06-2008, 11:41 AM
- 05-06-2008, 12:02 PM
I was expecting this to be more of a bulking product. Perhaps that was my fault, and was a misunderstanding. It turned out to be more of a strength/recomp from what I experienced. I was able to put on a few solid pounds, maintain my leanness (arguably lean out a little bit), and increase strength. The size came as well, but I see this as more of a recomp product than I do a mass builder.
- 05-06-2008, 12:47 PM
Anyway Im just saying that because Im sure if you had got your bodyfat checked every 2 weeks on the product your lean muscle mass probably would have went up, but the leaning out effects is something most people notice more when they are not measuring bodyfat because its kinda hard to "see" lean muscle gains when you see urself everyday.
05-06-2008, 01:22 PM
My weight has some interesting fluctuations, could have been diet or just shedding some fat. Regardless, I'm happy with the physique DTH has left me with. Have a tub of NOS Ether that I'm about to open up today
05-06-2008, 02:26 PM
Did you get any increase in libido on DTH? Just asking, I know you logged this for direct comp to Actx and that product has little to know effect on libido and is not promoted to increase libido, I was just asking because I didnt see any comment on it during the log. Or Ill just read the final review if it will be in there.
cya, thanks in advance for running a complete log......(without the usual...."I got a cold, my gym is 2 far, its spring break not working out for 2 weeks").
05-06-2008, 03:32 PM
As far as the libido goes, well I am 19 years old so it's naturally pretty high you could say. I did notice for a week or so that I wasn't thinkin about it as much as usual, and other days was the opposite. This was a bit harder for me to gauge because of my age. I consider this to be in the same category as acne to be honest, because at my age it's pretty natural so I never jump the gun on claiming a supplement to be responsible for it.
As far as the log goes, I was happy to do it for ya. I respected the fact that you had such confidence in DTH, and I'm sure you'll enjoy the final review. It held its own vs ActX without a doubt. And yeah, I'm not one to come with excuses to stay out of the gym, just not my style.
05-06-2008, 08:43 PM
Got a quick question about the original NOS Ether.
I'm like 196-198 lbs roughly, what should my dosing be like?
The range says 190-240, 2scoops pre, 2 scoops post. Then 2 scoops on offdays.
The tub would last like 25 days or somethin like that if I did it this way.
What's the usual suggested dosing for someone around my weight?
05-06-2008, 10:01 PM
most people on Ether want to reduce the dosage to get a few extra days out of it.
05-06-2008, 11:25 PM
05-11-2008, 12:20 PM
nice log! so which one are you liking better so far?
05-11-2008, 06:41 PM
I enjoyed ActX a lot, it helped me put on weight and strength. I consider DTH more of a recomp/strength product.
05-12-2008, 08:08 PM
DTH Final Review
First off, I know many people like to give scores out of 10 or expect them in a review. Personally I like to just explain my experiences and give the reader a feeling of what I would give the product instead of people just looking at my numbers and scrolling down. On another note, this product was sent to me by Chuck to be directly compared to ActX, so don't think me comparing them is anything else (attacks on DS, fanboy of Get Diesel, etc.)
Let's get started........
This by far was the best aspect of this product. I would definitely argue as far as pure strength gains go DTH is definitely on the level of ActX. I had some serious weight fluctuations, which I will go into further detail about later, and regardless of this my strength was very consistent with positive progress.
I know everyone loves Divanil as far as vasodilators goes, but I must say that the DTH had my forearms covered and some serious veins in my arms as well. While strength may have been much closer, I feel DTH definitely wins in this category.
ActX gave me some great pumps, however DTH did as well. They both kept me full throughout the day, so I'd say in this category they are even.
This is where DTH shined by far for me. The aggression from this product in the gym really had me attacking weights, and just getting work done while I was there. Helped the weight go up (via intensity).
Well, not sure what the claims are (if there are any) about DTH improving sleep, but it wasn't anything major. I did have some random nights of deep deep sleep and vivid dreams. However ActX was more consistent with the deep sleep.
Overall I definitely threw some size on, with very minimal fat gains. This is the area that leads me to believe DTH is a great overall recomp product. Where as ActX helped me put on weight better. I'm pleased with the size I gained because it was clean weight, but was a little disappointed with the amount of weight gained (perhaps I misunderstood the claims of the product). Chuck said many ppl lose weight because of fat loss...but personally I don't think there would be any weight loss if the muscle is being put on. Anyways, weight is not a priority for me, not nearly as much as overall physique and strength are.
Final ThoughtsI would have to say that DTH is a great product, and surprised me in many areas. It is a great recomp, aggression boosting, strength enhancing product. ActX is more for a deep sleep, bulking up, and getting stronger product. So I suppose they both have their specialties. Obviously I know many of you may have conflicting experiences with what I'm claiming here, but mind you we all have our own way of reacting to different supplements and these were mine.
Hope you guys enjoy this review, I had a fun 2 months on DTH and want to thank Chuck for sending me the bottles. Also want to commend Chuck for having enough confidence in his product to send me two bottles to directly compare to ActX, shows me quite a bit.
05-12-2008, 09:28 PM
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Nice review Much appreciated since I ran through 2 bottles of DTH myself, but haven't tried ActX.
05-12-2008, 09:38 PM
05-13-2008, 11:05 AM
Thanks man! Great review it rocks
And I like the way you reviewed them instead of saying: "8 out of 10" without any explanation.
We have been so focused in comparing them, buy I would like your opinion (and anybody who want's to chip in) about stacking them. From your review strength would be out of this world, you would gain weight fairly clean, libido would be great etc.
05-13-2008, 11:31 AM
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05-13-2008, 03:27 PM
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