DaveGabe showin' off his Grand Bolas, aka DTH!!

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by DaveGabe24 View Post
    What waves??
    the ripples in the water to the right of the shark dont match the pattern around the boat.


  2. subbed, I ran the last version (w/out argenine)

    I liked it even better than the new mass fx and Activate X (and I did not expect to, so no placebo)
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  3. Yea DTH is def some good stuff!
  4. Day 6 - DTH 1-1-2-1


    Pretty much an off-day. Did some swimming, weight is still only around 192. However, I am more concerned with measurements/overall appearance. Tomorrow is chest/back , will come back with some updates on that.
  5. Day 7 - DTH 1-1-2-1


    Chest/Back

    Flat BB
    • 225 x 5
    • 245 x 5
    • 255 x 3 1/2
    • 225 x 5
    • 225 x 6


    BB Rows
    • 225 x 8
    • 245 x 8
    • 245 x 8
    • 225 x 8


    Inc DB
    • 70 x 10
    • 90 x 5
    • 70 x 10
    • 85 x 5


    Pullups
    • BW x 8
    • BW x 8
    • BW x 8


    Feeling strong as ever, weight was 195.5 with sweats, t-shirt, shoes. Whatever, strength is up, f*** the scale.


    DTH Updates:

    Aggression: One or two more workouts, and I'm officially going to contribute this aggression to DTH. This is the 3rd workout in a row where I have been attacking the weights, and dreading rest between sets.

    Strength: Today was the first really strong day on DTH. The weights felt like they were just moving. Felt like I could bench all day. Really excited about this.

    Muscle Fullness/Tightness: My chest is still looking more full than ever, for me having a naturally smaller chest than the rest of me this is a VERY nice change. Hopefully the chest continues to look this full.

    Vascularity: The veins are continuing to show. On Monday and Tuesday I'll have a much better idea of the the extent of this benefit when I am directly lifting my bicep/triceps.
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  6. nice workout...interesting rep scheme on the incline db press, do you have a specific reasoning behind dropping the weight on the third set then going back up for the fourth?
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  7. Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    nice workout...interesting rep scheme on the incline db press, do you have a specific reasoning behind dropping the weight on the third set then going back up for the fourth?
    Nope no real reason lol.

    The pressing felt really good today. A lot of the 225 sets I cut short. Going to keep doing the sets of 225 and then a few sets of 245-265 over the next few weeks to start getting used to repping heavier weights.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by DaveGabe24 View Post
    Nope no real reason lol.

    The pressing felt really good today. A lot of the 225 sets I cut short. Going to keep doing the sets of 225 and then a few sets of 245-265 over the next few weeks to start getting used to repping heavier weights.
    lol nice yea i was just wondering. i have done it before just kinda as a change up in my routine
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by bolt10 View Post
    lol nice yea i was just wondering. i have done it before just kinda as a change up in my routine
    I kinda just go with the flow, lol where the aggression takes me
  10. Day 9 - DTH 1-2-1-1


    Chest/Tri

    Flat BB
    • 225 x 5
    • 260 x 3
    • 225 x 5
    • 245 x 4
    • 185 x 9, 25sec rest, 185 x 6


    DB Incline
    • 75 x 6
    • 75 x 7
    • 75 x 5


    Cable Crossovers
    • 50 x 15
    • 70 x 10, dropset, 50 x 10


    CGBP
    • 155 x 5
    • 185 x 5
    • 205 x 4


    OH DB Ext.
    • 60 x 10
    • 70 x 10
    • 65 x 8


    Tri Pushdowns
    • 100 x 10
    • 100 x 10, dropset, 50 x 10

    Pretty impressive strength. I was planning on hitting legs yesterday, but apparently they close @ 8 and not 10 Was pretty bad, internet was down, so I took my pre-workout got everything ready walked all the way to the gym and it was closed..ouch lol

    Anyways I decided to push the week ahead a day, and I thought considering the facts the strength was pretty good. I had a solid chest day on Friday and still got some decent numbers today. For some reason I thought I did chest/back on Thursday, but it was Friday and now that I realized so I'm happy with the numbers I got.

    Tomorrow is back/bi, and I'm going to start doing more sets for biceps than I used to, maybe 3 exercises 3sets each or something.


    DTH Updates:

    Very weird workout today. The aggression was there but subtlety. I literally got done with my workout and barely felt like I had moved a weight. I felt was if I was just going through the motions, and it went by in a flash. I remember walking in, and then packing my bag and somewhere in between I must have hit my chest/tris lol. Hard to describe , but the workout seemed to fly by.

    Strength: Obviously strength seems to be going up considering I'm putting up some decent numbers for me, and that's only on one day rest after a chest day.

    Vascularity: Still noticing some nice increased vascularity, nothing insane, but noticeable.

    Aggression: This continues to be the most noticeable benefit from this product and I do enjoy it.

  11. Your still in the early stages MUCH better things to come!

  12. Quote Originally Posted by boxmeman View Post
    Your still in the early satges MUCH better things to come!
    Sounds good to me!!

  13. pushin some heavy @ss weight with your chest bro. it always amazes me how weak my chest is compared to everyone elses. but then again my back is pretty strong, but chest is not even close to where it should be.
    keep it up man:bb3:

  14. Quote Originally Posted by TNASTYII View Post
    pushin some heavy @ss weight with your chest bro. it always amazes me how weak my chest is compared to everyone elses. but then again my back is pretty strong, but chest is not even close to where it should be.
    keep it up man:bb3:

    Thanks man, I really appreciate the kind words. It's very nice to see my pressing numbers catching up a little bit. Back/legs always dominated chest, but seems to be balancing out a little bit.

    This Thursday I'm going to try and rep out 275, see what happens.


    Today is back/bi.

    Most likely some weighted pullups/bb rows, and then going to hit the biceps hard. I think the only reason my arms are decent is because of my triceps, and that's because I always hated curls, but I need to get out of that old mindset, and realize bodybuilders cannot ignore any single muscle. So looks like I'll have to give in and really blast the biceps over the next year or two, get a nice peak.
  15. Day 10 - DTH 1-2-1-1


    Back/Bi

    Weighted Pullups
    • +25 x 6
    • +45 x 8
    • +35 x 5


    BB Rows (Thick Bar)
    • Underhand - 225 x 8
    • 225 x 8
    • 225 x 8


    T-Bar Rows
    • 90 x 12
    • 160 x 10
    • 135 x 10


    BB Curls
    • 45 x 10
    • 65 x 10
    • 65 x 8


    Preacher EZ Curl
    • 45 x 10
    • 55 x 10
    • 55 x 10
    • 45 x 10

    The +45 x 8 on pullups was a PR, but unfortunately my lifting partners said I'm looking skinnier than I used to. This really sucks, my strength is finally really going up and now I'm losing size?

    I gotta stretch my stomach out or something, and start hitting the cafe as hard as I do the gym.

    DTH Updates:

    Strength: Obviously the strength is up, the pullups felt easier than ever. BB rows unfortunately were light because that thick bar just wasn't working with me.

    Vascularity: Still impressing me, if this increases anymore I may argue it is on part with the vasodilation of divanil.

    Size: Unfortunately as I mentioned my friends said I am looking skinnier than I used to, this really pissed me off. Hopefully I can focus this anger into some serious eating over the next 10-12 weeks. Sucks hearing you're skinnier , when strength is finally going up...

  16. Quote Originally Posted by DaveGabe24 View Post

    Size: Unfortunately as I mentioned my friends said I am looking skinnier than I used to, this really pissed me off. Hopefully I can focus this anger into some serious eating over the next 10-12 weeks. Sucks hearing you're skinnier , when strength is finally going up...
    DTH (with most people) changes their fat to muscle ratio. You are probably dropping bodyfat. I dont really know why people rather look at the scale and see the lbs go up versus being stronger at a better muscle to fat ratio.

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel View Post
    DTH (with most people) changes their fat to muscle ratio. You are probably dropping bodyfat. I dont really know why people rather look at the scale and see the lbs go up versus being stronger at a better muscle to fat ratio.
    lol what hes tryimg to say is it genetically alerts your pysique muscletech style

  18. Quote Originally Posted by boxmeman View Post
    lol what hes tryimg to say is it genetically alerts your pysique muscletech style :tootfunny:
    Well I always see people freaking out when they use DTH for the first time because the scale is going down in total body weight.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel View Post
    Well I always see people freaking out when they use DTH for the first time because the scale is going down in total body weight.
    Thats something they need to get over....

  20. Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel View Post
    DTH (with most people) changes their fat to muscle ratio. You are probably dropping bodyfat. I dont really know why people rather look at the scale and see the lbs go up versus being stronger at a better muscle to fat ratio.

    That would be great if I was a powerlifter, but as a bodybuilder strength means **** to me. I'm losing size, and that's bad.



    This needs to change soon, starting to just shove every piece of food I touch down my throat.

  21. Quote Originally Posted by DaveGabe24 View Post
    That would be great if I was a powerlifter, but as a bodybuilder strength means **** to me. I'm losing size, and that's bad.



    This needs to change soon, starting to just shove every piece of food I touch down my throat.
    I was a powerlifter then a bodybuilder......."size" or "weight on the scale" has nothing to do with muscle to fat radio. I would check my bodyfat if I was you every 7 days to asses if you are losing muscle.

    Also as a bodybuilder strength is very important because you are not going to have thick tris, delts, quads and chest not being strong. All the best bodybuilders are strong......really strong and train with more of a "powerlifting" rep range.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel View Post
    I was a powerlifter then a bodybuilder......."size" or "weight on the scale" has nothing to do with muscle to fat radio. I would check my bodyfat if I was you every 7 days to asses if you are losing muscle.

    Also as a bodybuilder strength is very important because you are not going to have thick tris, delts, quads and chest not being strong. All the best bodybuilders are strong......really strong and train with more of a "powerlifting" rep range.

    I totally agree with you, and I really could care less about the scale, but when you're two lifting partners both mention that I'm looking small it doesn't exactly boost the ego.

    I'm not going to freak out or anything, I'm eating more, and seeing where things go.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by DaveGabe24 View Post
    I totally agree with you, and I really could care less about the scale, but when you're two lifting partners both mention that I'm looking small it doesn't exactly boost the ego.

    I'm not going to freak out or anything, I'm eating more, and seeing where things go.
    lol you aught to casually mention (in a reassuring fashion) that 1 of your friends seems to be losing some size...

  24. Quote Originally Posted by boxmeman View Post
    lol you aught to casually mention (in a reassuring fashion) that 1 of your friends seems to be losing some size...

    they'd be ecstatic lol

    One is 260, the other is 285. both football players.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel View Post
    DTH (with most people) changes their fat to muscle ratio. You are probably dropping bodyfat. I dont really know why people rather look at the scale and see the lbs go up versus being stronger at a better muscle to fat ratio.
    I agree! I'm currently doing carb-depletion Monday through Thursday, find myself dropping 5-6 lbs within that time-span, and by Saturday afternoon - after a 30 hour carbload - I've gained back 4-6 of those lbs, but still looking harder and better than 6 days earlier prior to the carb depletion. Last Monday, I weighed in at 241 lbs., and three days ago, I weighed in @ 240.6 lbs., looking much better and tighter !

    I don't think the scale is necessary but PRIOR to beginning a new stack/workout program/diet, and then every couple of weeks, because even a 2-3 lbs increase/decrease within a short span of time is likely to just be because of water in your body, whereas after a couple weeks, it can actually be legit results, either from fat-loss or muscle gain ..
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