[machine528]

Im very pumped about trying this product out. I just placed my order for epidrol. My goals are to put on about 7-10 pds of solid muscle. That would put me at 230 and very happy for spring and summer. Here my background


Training for 11 years, started when i was 16

Prohormones used
18 years old- Used andro-----i was a moron----
Last year Junglewarfare--Loved the results
Last year high dose 11 oxo-- Great results just bad anxiety


Supplements while on Epidrol
1. Cycle Support
2. Core Meal replacement
3. Muscle Milk Collegiate
4. Optimum Micellar protein
5. Oryx Goat Whey
6. Poseidon
7. Now super green foods
8. NOW probiotics
9. Now prostate support
10. Now adam multi-mineral forumula.
11. Xtend amino acids formula.
12. Giant reservatol
13. NOW Fish oil


My proposed post cycle therapy will be post cycle support and Drive.. I am definatly looking for suggestions here. I dont exactly feel comfortable ordering Nolva or Clomid and was hoping i could do a good PCT with supplements. Any other suggestions id appreciate.

Training split

Monday- Chest
Triset Incline dp press 12, 8, 6, 6 with Incline flys all 12 reps, and Incline DP press to failure

Flat bench 12, 10, 8 superset with pec deck for 12 reps

Decline dp press superset with heavy dips 10 reps for 3 sets

Ab work and HIT cardio

Tuesday Back

Lat pull down superset with t bar rows 4 sets of 12, 10, 8, 8

Low rows supersetted with pull overs 3 sets of 10 reps

Heavy front shrugs 4 sets of 10

Heavy dead lifts 3 sets of 6

WED Legs
Squats superset with leg extensions 4 sets by 12 reps
One leg Lunges supersetted with Leg curls 4 sets with moderate weight till failure
standing calf raises 5 sets for 15 reps

Ab work and moderate cardio

Thursday Shoulders
Arnold press superset with front delt raises 4 by 10 reps
Clean and press 4 sets by 10, 8, 6, 4 reps
Side raises supersetted with rear raised 4 sets by 10 reps

HIT cardio

Friday Arms
Close grip bp supersetted with isolation curls 4 sets by 10, 8, 6, 6 reps

One arm extensions supersetted with preacher curls 4 sets by 12

Cable kick backs supersetted with reverse grip curls 4 by 12

Forearm work with cabled and grip work with capt of crush.

Neck work.

Any input will be greatly appreciated.

[bluecollar]

get comfortable with serms. cuddle up to them, they are your friend

[machine528]

Originally Posted by bluecollar

get comfortable with serms. cuddle up to them, they are your friend

From what ive read im thinking i should be fine if i dont go with a serm on a low dose epidrol cycle. Like i said im willing to adapt my PCT based on some more experiences hormone users recomendations.

[hman85]

I would definatley have a serm on hand just in case.

[LilPsychotic]

Originally Posted by machine528

From what ive read im thinking i should be fine if i dont go with a serm on a low dose epidrol cycle. Like i said im willing to adapt my post cycle therapy based on some more experiences hormone users recomendations.

You could go without, but always a good idea to have some on hand. PCS, or drive won't do sh*t if your breast tissue proliferates at an exponential rate, leading to you know what.

[machine528]

Ok today was day one of my epi cycle. Talked with crowler and i will be following his schedule. I will definatly be pulsing.

I am going to run epi 3 times a week at 20mg for 6 weeks. I workout 5 days a week however i still think i will make good gains only taking it 3 days a week.

I will be taking Cycle support and Post cycle support throughout my run.

4 weeks after my pulse cycle i will continue to run post cycle support and cycle support as well as Drive.


Today i didnt notice much different Did shoulders

Arnold DB presses 4 supersets of 65 lbs at 10 reps with 100 lb upright rows for 10 reps

Front raised supersetted with Rear delt work on the cables

Clean and press 115 by 15, 135 for 12, 145 for 10, 155,for 8, 175 for 3


Sides--- None to mention.

[hman85]

You will probably want to up your doses. 20mgs is a low dose for a regular epi cycle in pulses you can get away with running higher than normal doses. You should start at 20 but will probably have to up your doses when gains slow.imo

[machine528]

Thanks Hman i will see where im at after the 2nd week and start adjusting.

[machine528]

Just curious to see if anyone else pulsed epi while working out 5 days a week. All of the pulses ive seen have been designed around a 3 day a week workout regimen. Should i expect any different results?

[hman85]

You could use it to bring up lagging body parts or switch to 4 day a week pulse m,t thu, fr . Dr d recommended this to me and it worked great and i wasn't very suppressed at all and i was using superdrol.Just a thought

[GotTest]

Originally Posted by machine528

Just curious to see if anyone else pulsed epi while working out 5 days a week. All of the pulses ive seen have been designed around a 3 day a week workout regimen. Should i expect any different results?

At 5days/week you might as well run it everyday.
Your defeating the purpose of pulse at 5days/week.

[EasyEJL]

You are dosing the post cycle support daily you said? that may help against suppression. if you are working out 5 days a week either go full cycle or decouple the pulsing from the workouts. What I mean is just take epidrol M W F regardless of the workout days.

And if you are 220 now, I don't think you'll get much results from 20mg epidrol

[hman85]

Yeah i have to agree with Easy . You could change your workout to fit on 3-4 days and pulse or just go head on and do a full cycle.

[machine528]

Today no Epi was taken. I worked legs today, nothing major to report on strength yet.

I was hungry all day today.



Today when i was driving to the gym my left nipple got very itchy and was itchy throughout the night. It sort of stung all night too. It almost feels like its dry. I honestly dont think this can be gyno?? I only took 20 mg's yesterday. I had this same thing happen about a month ago and i wasnt on hormones back then.

[EasyEJL]

gyno is a lump. All sorts of things cause tingling, itchiness and tenderness. So I wouldn't worry about a day of it, unless it continues or gets worse. It is possible that its the start of it as anything that changes your hormone levels can have that effect. Taking the post cycle support daily should guard against it as well though. As a final add on to try, you could see if a local store carries p-5-p - its a specific form of vitamin b-6. If they do, take 100mg 3x a day, that with post cycle support should squash any real odds of gyno

[machine528]

Thanks Easy i will definatly see if i can get some p-5-p. There is no lump in either nip. The one that was itchy is very dry and lookes almost chapped.