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- 09-16-2007, 10:20 PM
Day 17: Chest/Biceps
Dosing: 1/2/2 = 5 tablets total
Tablets consumed including today = 85
Dumbbell Pullovers: 4x12: 40,40,45,50
Flat Bench: 4x12: 210,215,220,225
Incline Bench: 4x12: 180,190,200,210
Decline Bench: 4x12: 215,225,225,230
Dumbbell Pullovers: 4x12: 30,35,35,45
Flat Bench: 4x12: 200,200,215,220
Incline Bench: 4x12: 180,180,200,200
Decline Bench: 4x12: 215,215,220,225
Preacher Curls: 4x12
Hammer Curls: 4x12
Incline Curls: 4x10
Libido: Increases with dosage towards later afternoon/evening.
Endurance: I got a nap in so endurance was good due to rest.
Intensity: Switching back to HVT, intensity also increased with reverse dosage of 1/2/2.
Nitric Oxide: Very good pumps in my biceps.
Side note: Workouts include longer rest times, higher reps/sets, slightly lighter weight.
Increases made on my HIIT training. Using higher weight for HVT currently vs. previous.
- 09-17-2007, 11:57 AM
- 09-17-2007, 12:14 PM
My endurance has not changed though.
I think R4W is better suited for giving better endurance, but libido, intensity, and nitric oxide has gotten better when I reverse dose. I'm surprised though because I often find myself very thirsty throughout the day so that leads me to expect better nitric oxide, but my pumps have been normal/slightly better at best.
The only thing that I haven't gained anything really from is endurance. Everything else has gotten better.
09-17-2007, 12:58 PM
09-17-2007, 02:31 PM
I have tried both R4W v 5.0 and 6.0.
R4W v 6.0 tastes decent (lemonade) and it gives excellent mental focus/quality intensity. Endurance is so so. In my expierence I got an extremely clean energy effect from 1 scoop of R4W v 6.0. I was also able to concentrate better too.
R4W v 5.0 tastes like horse poop. It was the previous version that had a bunch of herbs blended into it. R4W v 5.0 gave me endurance like none other. The quality of my energy was extremely sloppy and it wasn't clean, but I could literally work out for 3 hrs on that stuff. It just kept me going even if I didn't get good focus off of it. I bought R4W v 5.0 awhile ago. I think there might be some places that still sell it though.
Personally for me, I like 1 scoop of R4W 6.0 about 45min pre-workout. I ran out of it a long time ago and also need to order more as well. I wouldn't buy R4W 5.0 ever again though, only R4W 6.0. Let me know how you like the NOS ETHER powder. I used the tablets of NOS Precursor and had a good expierence with it.
R4W v 6.0
Energy: 7 out of 10
Motivation: 8.5 out of 10
Focus/Mental Enhancement/NOOTROPIC/Concentration: 10 out of 10
R4W v 5.0
Energy: 10 out of 10
Motivation: 9 out of 10
Focus/Mental Enhancement/NOOTROPIC/Concentration: 2 out of 10
I always use 1 heaping scoop, no less.
09-17-2007, 08:49 PM
09-17-2007, 11:44 PM
Dosing: 1/2/2 = 5 tablets total
I felt amazing today at the gym. My workouts were spot on and I compared my notes from my deadlift also several months back to the ones today:
220x10, 225x10, 235x8, 240x6
215x12, 220x10, 225x6, 235x4
Libido: High and good
Endurance: None from DTH. This needs to be taken care with R4W
Intensity: My intensity quality has gone up for my back workouts as it did for my workouts yest.
Nitric Oxide: Average pumps today.
I feel that my pumps are closely correlated with how good my diet has been or has not been for that matter.
The high increase in libido from DTH has been awesome, but I think my favorite aspect from DTH so far has been the increase in intensity.
09-19-2007, 01:17 PM
Day 19: (Yesterday)
Did low/moderate intensity cardio for 45 min. Did abs too. Bleh.
Libido: Seems to have dropped slightly, but nothing too extreme.
Endurance: I seem to have been really worn out or something, b/c I had a hard time doing the normal cardio.
Nitric Oxide: N/A
09-20-2007, 12:25 PM
Dosing: 1/2/2 = 5 tablets total
Interesting note: Does Diesel Test Hardcore help in weightloss ? I didn't think so intitially so I didn't look for that, but I noticed I've leaned up a bit and gained muscle hardness from it.
09-20-2007, 03:39 PM
09-20-2007, 04:28 PM
The other versions of Diesel Test I didn't notice too much, but with DTH the leaning effect is more noticible (for me anyway).
09-21-2007, 02:32 AM
09-22-2007, 12:12 AM
Dosing: 1/2/2 = 5 tablets total
As of right now I will be done this Sunday with all my DTH tablets and will be writing an overall review.
I noticed before I was getting some 'slight' acne, but I noticed that I've picked up quite a bit esp, on my back and on my face. I recall having a slight increase in acne towards the end of the Diesel Test bottles in the past.
As my log is starting to come to an end I've noticed a positive change in my workouts and a very strong increase in libido. The trick is to just find out what dosage works best and go with it. It seems more and more common people go right to the max of tablets (6), but when I went up that high the benefits went downhill.
Also too DTH for me had a lag time where the benefits seem to be noticible as time progressed with usage.
09-22-2007, 01:59 AM
09-22-2007, 02:04 AM
I was pretty damn surprised how well Trib Test was as a standalone. I ran 2/1 each day and I did that 7 days a week. It worked amazing.
09-22-2007, 02:07 AM
09-22-2007, 02:08 PM
09-24-2007, 10:15 AM
DTH overall review
I've been busy lately, so I haven't been able to log as much towards the end as I wanted to. I want to thank Chuck for sponsoring me a bottle of DTH, even if you didn't sponsor me I'd have bought it anyway.
So here are the products that I am reviewing:
-Diesel Test 2010 (standalone)
-Diesel Test 2010+ActivaTe
-Diesel Test 2040 (standalone)
-Diesel Test 2040+Trib Test
-Trib Test (standalone, 2 bottles)
Diesel Test 2010 (standalone)
Diesel Test 2010 is the first version I tried when I first started using Diesel Test. This was back in Jan when I was looking for a quality natural testosterone support supplement and I saw some positive reviews about it and decided to try it. Diesel Test 2010 is mainly tribulus based. There are a lot of mixed reviews about tribulus but I am a big fan of tribulus products and immediately loved Diesel Test 2010 from the start. It is too bad that there are no longer anymore bottles because I greatly enough. The downside to Diesel Test 2010 is there is a great drop in libido when you take too many tablets. With Diesel Test Hardcore there is a slight drop in libido, but with 2010 I could literally feel my libido stop dead in its tracks. I found Diesel Test Hardcore to be more effective and potent vs. Diesel Test 2010. I recall wanting to buy as much Diesel Test 2010 back in the day because it was slowly beingt discontinued.
This combo was the best that I have tried thus far. I was taking 5 tablets of Diesel Test 2010 and 6 capsules of ActivaTe. I could almost feel the change in my body's natural testosterone. My skin got to the point where it was uncontrollably oily and caused acne non-stop. My balls essentially got bigger and I had this ridiculous libido all the time. This is basically like the Diesel Test 2010 standalone, except the large amount of urtica dioca incredibly increased my free test, from what I percieved to be very high. This stack is the only combo I'd put ahead of Diesel Test Hardcore. Of course there are 2 products that are involved at the same time, but it was a stack that I greatly enjoyed....although it was quite expensive
Diesel Test 2040 (standalone)
This is the reason why I tried to buy as much Diesel Test 2010 as I could. I bought a bottle of Diesel Test 2040 which was a test booster+creatine. While 2010 was primarly tribulus based, 2040 was Long Jack based. I'm not a big fan of long jack vs. tribulus. I first started taking 2040 at the recommended dose. When it was not producing any results, I upped the dosage which also produced no results. Diesel Test Hardcore is both tribulus/long jack based so it is hard for me to judge exactly which worked for me. I was quite disappointed with Diesel Test 2040 as I had 0 gains. Diesel Test Hardcore is far more superior to 2040
Diesel Test 2040+ Trib Test
I took Diesel Test 2040 + Trib Test both at recommended dosages following the instructions on the bottle. With trib test and 2040, I was taking long jack, tribulus, and urtica dioca with all those bottles. I noticed a SLIGHT improvement, but taking trib test solo, I credited the gains towards towards trib test. Diesel Test Hardcore also contained tribulus, long jack, and urtica dioca and worked much better.
Trib Test (standalone)
I used 2 bottles of Trib Test as a standalone when I was doing things on a budget before. I was kinda skeptical about using trib test as only a standalone vs. stacking it with another product. At 3 tablets a day I had decent results from it. My expierence with trib test was that it was a milder version of Diesel Test 2010. Of course Diesel Test Hardcore would probably be even better with this.
This is a product by thermolife. I decided to try this product back in Jan when all the hype about ecdysterone products were around. I used the product at its recommended dosage @ 6 capsules/ED and saw virtually no results. I don't even want to claim what I 'might' have felt because it really was so inconsistant that it could have been a placebo effect. Diesel Test Hardcore worked incredibly better than E-Bol in different aspect of my training vs. E-Bol
-Diesel Test 2010+ ActivaTe
-Diesel Test Hardcore
-The rest of the products.
My expierence with Diesel Test Hardcore has been good. I adjusted the dosing for a bit and tried different dose timings before I found out what worked best for me. I think that people have a tendency to think 'more is better' mentality, because I only know of (1) person who used the product @ its recommended dosage, besides myself. I found 5 tablets @ 1/2/2 dose timing with 4.5 hrs between each dose to be the most effective for me because I workout in the evening.
I noticed an increase in the quality of intensity and libido from using DTH. Also I noticed towards the end of my log a slight decrease in bodyfat and increase in muscle hardness. My endurance was not much changed although, this is typically correlated with whatever pre-workout supp. I'm using. Overall I am happy with DTH, and I already ordered a bottle about 1 week ago so I have an unopened bottle sitting on my counter. I plan on stacking it with several products in about a month. Something like:
-Diesel Test Hardcore
.....over and out.........
Starting weight: 185lbs
Post DTH weight day 1: 186.8lbs
09-24-2007, 02:32 PM
09-24-2007, 02:48 PM
09-25-2007, 10:47 AM
09-26-2007, 09:22 AM
09-27-2007, 04:00 PM
09-27-2007, 04:01 PM
09-27-2007, 06:42 PM
I do not want to sound condescending in an way, but are you really happy with 1lb and not really any dramatic strength increases in 4 weeks? It seems like the switching of routines so often might be interfering with your overall gains and might have nothing to do with the supps.
09-28-2007, 02:28 AM
09-28-2007, 09:09 AM
Also I feel that if I adjusted my diet to higher amount of protein then I would have gotten better gains. I've been trying to bulk for the last 2 years so right now I'm just running on maint.
About the training...I have been trying this off and on for the past year and it has worked so far. I am still messing around with different training techniques. I might come back again and try DC training.
09-28-2007, 09:10 AM
09-28-2007, 09:11 AM
09-28-2007, 01:00 PM
I guess I also forgot to note this before. Since I am in bodybuilding my muscle mass/size and symmetry are the most important to me. Strength gains are a plus and I am always shooting to increase strength, but honestly if I could get a huge chest benching 150lbs I'm ok with that.
For me my overall goal is to have decent muscle mass and symmetry. I'm not looking into powerlifting or anything.
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