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  1. Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel View Post
    Do you mean as a sexual product or test booster, because paravol isnt a test booster.
    First of all, I hate to keep 'jacking Reaper's thread (I'll make it up to you, man), but here's what I'm really looking for (and I'll start my own thread eventually)...
    I'm going to start pulsing Superdrol/1-4andro, but in an unusual way. Instead of the normal every-other-day type pulse, I'm gonna squeeze my entire weekly workout into 3 consecutive days, taking the Superdrol/1-4AD on these same 3 days only. This will give me 4 days off, during which I'd like to take some supplement to combat any shutdown that may start, as well as simply boost my 45yo libido. [I call this approach "micro-cycling," complete with a micro-Post Cycle Therapy.]
    Thanks to bigt's advice on the amounts of "proprietary blend" in each capsule, I'm liking DTH over Paravol (which I have tried, and did find to be very underdosed). But I'm also looking at other options (there are almost too many, lol).
    Anyway, back to Reaper's log -- I'm obviously very interested in his results/opinions.


  2. nah, its related so whatever. Since you are pulsing superdrol for only 3 out of 7 days of the week, my guess is you will be encountering very minimal shutdown, but of course your testosterone will be suppressed. The 1,4-AD....if this is the boldenone, you need to take that everyday. If you pulse that your kinda wasting it, not to mention it is quite expensive as it is. 1,4-AD works at a much slower rate, esp since it is not methylated like Superdrol is.

    You stack seems fine, except run 1,4-AD around 900mg-1g/ED and Superdrol however you want to pulse that. Kabuki used DTH for post cycle therapy and to jump start the HPTA after being shutdown from his cycle.....FinigenX....ah.....s o he also used DTH for HPTA recovery.


    Once again, I could be wrong but I don't think you'll get any gains off of pulsing 1,4-AD...none at all.
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  3. Day 5:


    Dosing: 2/2/1

    Cardio/abs day.

    Libido is good @ 5 tablets.

    Hit the treadmills for 45min and did abs....i hate doing abs.

    Nothing too special.

    Today was an easy day which is good b/c I was exhausted from work.

  4. Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    Day 5:


    Dosing: 2/2/1

    Cardio/abs day.

    Libido is good @ 5 tablets.

    Hit the treadmills for 45min and did abs....i hate doing abs.

    Nothing too special.

    Today was an easy day which is good b/c I was exhausted from work.
    keep it up kid!!!!!!!!
    The LORD is my rock, my fortress, and my savior; my God is my rock, in whom I find protection. He is my shield, the power that saves me, and my place of safety.-Psalm 18:2

  5. oh yeah I forgot to note: After about 2 hrs from my second dosing of diesel test my I went to take a piss and it was brown from the DIM. lol. cool.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    oh yeah I forgot to note: After about 2 hrs from my second dosing of diesel test my I went to take a piss and it was brown from the DIM. lol. cool.
    maybe this is why my pee hasnt been the clearest even though im peeing 4x an hour at times of the day haha

  7. I usually drink a bunch of water during the day, but even from time to time it has a brown-ish tint which is from the DIM. Its just when I really don't drink enough water is when it looks deeper brown.haha.


    nycste-

    If your taking 5 tablets like me then it's gonna be brown from time to time.

  8. UPDATE:


    Today: instead of a rest day I'm going to do Friday's workouts
    Thursday (tommorow) will stay the same
    Friday: Rest day


    -I'm outta Endorush and %$#%$ Vitamin Shoppe does not have any so yeah looks like I'm up shltcreek.

    -I'm also too outta creatine monohydrate and I don't want to buy anymore at this time so that's gone too. I'm probably going to piss out a couple pounds of water.

    -Right now its just DTH, vitamins/minerals, protein (shakes/food), and Endorush (whenever that'll be)

  9. Day 6:

    Dosing:

    2 tablets upon waking up

    ----5.5 hrs later----

    2 tablets again

    ----5.5 hrs later----

    1 tablet

    Total tablets =5


    Today I switch up routines. I had a good workout. Instead of wearing my typical Nike Shox to do leg workouts, I took an old pair of leather Caterpillar boots to do them instead. The ankle support, solid heel, and steel toe made a HUGE difference in squatting/leg press. It is difficult to do calves with the boots, but the other leg exercises were so much better due to better stability. With my tennis shoes my knees were literally wobbling around.

    Triceps had an excellent pump and dips/all other tricep exercises went well.

    Libido: 5 tablets good as usual, but now it feel slightly lower than it did when I first started. I'll play around with the dosing, but it was still good to say the least.

    Endurance: Nothing worth nothing

    Intensity: Better quality intensity like before

    Nitric Oxide: I had good pumps, but I always do with triceps.

    I have lost about .5lb since I got off creatine. On average I lose 3-4 lbs of water weight as I have a tendency to hold water when I take monohydrate. I will give my final weight 7 days post-DTH.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    Day 6:

    Dosing:

    2 tablets upon waking up

    ----5.5 hrs later----

    2 tablets again

    ----5.5 hrs later----

    1 tablet


    Today I switch up routines. I had a good workout. Instead of wearing my typical Nike Shox to do leg workouts, I took an old pair of leather Caterpillar boots to do them instead. The ankle support, solid heel, and steel toe made a HUGE difference in squatting/leg press. It is difficult to do calves with the boots, but the other leg exercises were so much better due to better stability. With my tennis shoes my knees were literally wobbling around.

    Triceps had an excellent pump and dips/all other tricep exercises went well.

    Libido: 5 tablets good as usual, but now it feel slightly lower than it did when I first started. I'll play around with the dosing, but it was still good to say the least.

    Endurance: Nothing worth nothing

    Intensity: Better quality intensity like before

    Nitric Oxide: I had good pumps, but I always do with triceps.

    I have lost about .5lb since I got off creatine. On average I lose 3-4 lbs of water weight as I have a tendency to hold water when I take monohydrate. I will give my final weight 7 days post-DTH.
    im stuck wearing those damn steel toed boots 12 hours a day at work, sucks. im liking 4 through the week and 6 on weekend, on vacation starting fri, debating finishing out at 6ed. good luck reaper. btw got some morning sparkle, good stuff for the money.
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  11. Day 7:

    Dosing: 2/2/1 = 5 tablets


    Libido: Still going pretty strong, no complaints

    Intensity: The quality of my intensity has been great and I've been doing better on my workouts.

    Endurance: None worth noting

    Nitric Oxide: Very good pumps today for some reason, better than the usual.

    Diet: 35/40/20....carbs came up a little short today, no biggie.

    My workouts have been going pretty well. Right now I am training with slightly higher intensity than I normally do. I seem to be having better/more motivation too. Heavier weight/short rest time. There is a downside to all this though. My recovery has been much slower due to higher intensity training and I can start to really feel it taking its toll on me. (esp. this week). I'm going to rest Friday (tommorow) & Saturday, then hit the gym up again Sunday. Don't want to risk an injury.....been there, done that.



    .....Over and out.

  12. Training I've tried

    High Intensity: I use this from time to time and it works really well for stimulating new muscle growth. When my gains started to show I got carried away and did this in excess. It eventually lead to overtraining/CNS burnout, but it is good in the right amount.

    High Volume: This is the other training that I use when I am not doing HIT. I typically do 4 exercises/4 sets/10-12 reps. This turns out to be a lot of movement in one workout and takes forever to complete. It allows me to use lighter weights, yet I still get good contraction/pumps. Some people like this some don't. It has sat well with me.

    5x5: I was excited to try this one out and I read up on it quite a bit prior to doing it. The problem is that 5 reps is not enough for me. Doing 5x5 didn't give me a pump, or lead to much muscle contraction to the point where I felt I was overloading the muscle. Looked good on paper when I first saw it, but it didn't quite pan out as well. It helped, but extremely limited though. I tried this one the longest.

    Dog Crap (DC): This focuses a lot on negatives/stretching. Again this also seemed like it was good alternative to my prior training, but I actually lost size after a few weeks of trying this out. I didn't get much out of this.

    HST: This is probably the one that I tried the shortest after checking out some info on. The workout program also too did not give me enough muscle stimulation to be able to invoke muscle growth.

    About 85%-90% of my workout routines is machines...a lot of isolation exercises. I do use some freeweights on, in particular ALL chest exercises, but high volume coupled with isolation exercises has led me to be able to focus on a specific muscle and work it without working a pull on my joints or something.

    Weeks 1-4: High Volume
    Weeks 5-6: High Intensity/Heavy Duty/Blood n' Guts training
    Repeat.


    ......oh yeah. No injuries in the past 8 months after I threw away all the workout programs I had used by the 'juice crew all-star'....none whatsoever.....

  13. Day 8:

    Rest Day.

    Dosing: 2/1/3 =6 tablets



    WTF?!?!?!?! is probably what your thinking....why change up the dosing ? Well, I'm gonna see how those 3 tablets on the last dosing 'help' with the g/f later on. I'm gonna run 6 tablets on Saturday too.....same way 2/1/3. Damn it feels good to be a gangster.

    Sunday is gonna be back to 5 tablets...this is all tenative.




    Yep, just gonna kick back, relax/rest, enjoy the weekend @ 6 tabs.


    I figured I'll update this b/c I probably won't have access to a computer later on tonight.

  14. Day 9:

    Rest Day.


    I'm updating this for tommorow (Saturday) because I won't be online again till probably late Sunday night.

    Dosing for Saturday: 2/1/3 = 6 tablets

    My diet is probably going to be off. I'm guessing 55/35/10.....so yeah not too great. Heading out of town to party with some guys.


    Be back Sunday.

  15. p.s. When you take the tablets, the whole 15 minutes before a meal or 1 hr after DOES seem to have an effect on me. I made this mistake back when I first started taking Diesel Test 2010, I didn't think it mattered so I popped them with food sometimes and sometimes without food. Now I always make sure they go in on an empty stomach

  16. Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    p.s. When you take the tablets, the whole 15 minutes before a meal or 1 hr after DOES seem to have an effect on me. I made this mistake back when I first started taking Diesel Test 2010, I didn't think it mattered so I popped them with food sometimes and sometimes without food. Now I always make sure they go in on an empty stomach
    whoah 15mins before food or 1hour after. i didnt know anything about the 1 hour after a meal i always time myself at least 30mins

    u sure 1hour?

  17. Quote Originally Posted by nycste View Post
    whoah 15mins before food or 1hour after. i didnt know anything about the 1 hour after a meal i always time myself at least 30mins

    u sure 1hour?
    diesel says food interferes with absorption. i always take on empty and wait at least 1/2 hour before eating. btw at my job i dont get scheduled breaks and sometimes go as long as 2-3 hours after taking before eating, this is less effective than eating after about 1/2 hour. it seems that timing is critical for best results.
    GOD, FAMILY, COUNTRY!!!

  18. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    diesel says food interferes with absorption. i always take on empty and wait at least 1/2 hour before eating. btw at my job i dont get scheduled breaks and sometimes go as long as 2-3 hours after taking before eating, this is less effective than eating after about 1/2 hour. it seems that timing is critical for best results.
    yeah 1/2 hour min before a meal, but right after you eat, you have to give the food time to empty, so about 1 hour post meal.

    Im doing 2 tabs 1 hour pre-workout at about 3pm for some crazy intensity and pumps.......then the "side effects" kick in later that night.

  19. Day 10:

    Well, today is Sunday. Sat my diet was all screwed-up I'm not even going to bother going through it. Fast Food+Lots of beer = Saturday's diet.

    Dosing: 2/2/1 = 5 tablets

    Today I made my return back to 5 tablets. I ran 6 tablets Friday and Sat.


    In my opinion, if you are going to be doing work in the bedroom, run your dosing 2/1/3 or something along those lines. I found 3 to be effective for sexual performance. If not, I find that running 2/2/1(5 total) is much better instead. Don't be shy to venture 3 at one time. It is good.

    Libido: Libido good @ 5 tablets. It has remained high and steady @ 5 tablets.

    Endurance: Nothing

    Intensity: Still having good quality intensity. This is a good attribute for my workouts, b/c lately I've been trying to increase that weight (and stop lifting like a little girl).

    Nitric Oxide: I had good pumps in my pecs today for chest. I'm surprised, but it was good.

    Today's workouts: I lifted much,much lighter than I normally do for bench press. I came to the conclusion that the 8 beers I had last night is what attributed to lousy strength today. I still had great pumps, and I felt my muscles fully worked out, so the only thing that took a beating was my ego.



    nycste- Yeah your right, I looked at the bottle and it is 1/2 hr. For me the tablets always go down on an empty stomach. I usually do it either 30min before a meal, or 1 hr later...so I do it over longer periods of time. I noticed when I took the tablets when I first used 2010 my libido was sometimes different even though I used the same amount of pills. I realized then that like the first 2 weeks I was taking 2010 I was doing it w/ food....

    .........over and out.

  20. Brief review: So far my expierence has been good with DTH and I've been happy thus far. It takes a bit of adjusting to find the appropriate dosing esp. if it is your first time. 5 tablets is what works for me and has worked for me in the previous versions. 6 tablets is just an overkill. I won't give away my full review yet. will do a full detailed review upon finishing the bottle.

  21. Day 11:


    Dosing: 2/2/1 = 5 tablets

    Diet: 35/40/20. slightly low on carbs today

    Intensity, Endurance, Nitric Oxide, Libido all the same as previous posts

    Workout was good tonight. I was back to lifting for real today. I have some slight elbow pain though so I'll throw back a few glucosamine caps.


    My expierence with DTH has been pretty consistant.



  22. This is my past expierence with Get Diesel products which I am quite familiar with. DTH is currently being used. R4W v 5.0 is missing b/c I have it sitting in the freezer. These are just the empty containers that I collected. I've been meaning to get my hands on the ETHER 2010 tablets. I might pick up a bottle next supplement run.....or maybe just skip that all together and get the nos ether powder instead. not sure.

  23. Day 12:


    Cardio/Ab day. I sometimes wonder why I even do abs. I have to do an extremely ridiculous amount of work to even make them slightly visible. I'm not like other ppl who don't have to work them and have very distinct abs. Luck me.


    Dosing: 2/2/1 = 5 tablets

    Libido: I've been contemplating about kicking it down to 4 tablets. When I take 2 @ 7:00am, then 2 more @ 12:30pm it basically leaves me really horny all day. My libido has been ridiculous, but it is impractical when I'm sitting in the office. I'll think about it.

    Endurance: I had more endurance for cardio than I normally do. I usually quit after 40min, but tonight I went 1 hr. I'm not sure if this is attributed to DTH or not as it is the first time this has occured.

    Intensity: I did cardio how I normally do at my given running rates. Not applicable.

    Nitric Oxide: Cardio day. Not applicable.


    Diet: Looking good. 40/40/20. Its been a couple days since I hit it right.

    Overall: I've noticed I have slightly more muscle hardness vs. before. Prior to DTH my muscles were a bit flat/softer. No elbow pain, only last night. Every now and then I get the urge to go on an ego trip and lift retarded heavy/poor form/extremely high sets like an IFBB pro. Fortunately I restrain myself from doing that anymore.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by ReaperX View Post
    Day 12:


    Cardio/Ab day. I sometimes wonder why I even do abs. I have to do an extremely ridiculous amount of work to even make them slightly visible. I'm not like other ppl who don't have to work them and have very distinct abs. Luck me.


    Dosing: 2/2/1 = 5 tablets

    Libido: I've been contemplating about kicking it down to 4 tablets. When I take 2 @ 7:00am, then 2 more @ 12:30pm it basically leaves me really horny all day. My libido has been ridiculous, but it is impractical when I'm sitting in the office. I'll think about it.
    2/1/1 might make u hornier actually. I would go 1-2-1, or 1-2-2. For abs, they are not visible in direct correlation to how much ab work you do. U have to be 8-12% max bodyfat to see nice abs, with low water retention. Ab work is good because the abs are a stabilizer muscle and training abs help keep your squat and back work more powerful, but to “see” abs, u gotta do am cardio or be on a strict diet to get to about 8-12% bodyfat.

    When I was bodybuilding I never trained abs. I was sprinting at 5AM 4x a week.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Chuck Diesel View Post
    2/1/1 might make u hornier actually. I would go 1-2-1, or 1-2-2. For abs, they are not visible in direct correlation to how much ab work you do. U have to be 8-12% max bodyfat to see nice abs, with low water retention. Ab work is good because the abs are a stabilizer muscle and training abs help keep your squat and back work more powerful, but to “see” abs, u gotta do am cardio or be on a strict diet to get to about 8-12% bodyfat.

    When I was bodybuilding I never trained abs. I was sprinting at 5AM 4x a week.
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