H-drol + E-form: Recomp Log
- 07-15-2007, 08:22 PM
H-drol + E-form: Recomp Log
Final Review is post #372 on page 13
Note: Post #2 is reserved for valuable information periodically updated,
Here goes my first cycle! My plan has been devised after approximately 8 months of studying. My immediate instinct when I found this board was to choose a Halo clone because of its mild nature and that it fit my recomp goals. I have had some truely awesome experiences cutting or bulking with formestane, which made E-form an easy choice for my stack.
I have to give MAJOR props to TheBigT and RisingAgainst for their help in devising my plan
H-drol 50-75mg for 4-6 weeks
E-from 40-120mg TD (as tolerated)
post cycle therapy
Torem 120(90)/90/60/30 (abbreviated if appropriate)
TRAC Extreme NO (only as needed)
300/300/60 at ~3000 cal
*Splits are arranged to avoid irritation of a shoulder injury.
*Routine includes 1 power move at 5x5 followed by supersets in volume fashion.
3-4 days light cardio, swimming, abs
JW, BAM, Restore
Creatines, Arginines, Fat burners
Questions, comments, criticism, suggestions, discussion, sarcasm, and wise-cracks are encouraged
- 07-15-2007, 08:22 PM
16.49% body fat (7 point skinfold)
Waist 36.75" holy crap I had no idea!
Bis (R) 16 (L) 15.5
Mid Thigh 23.5'' both sides
Deadlift 335 x 5
Squat 285 x 4
Shrug 395 x 5
SLDL 320 x 5
BB Curl 85 x 5
Decline Bench 175 x 7
*compared to last winter's bulk, none of these are PR's
+6 pounds LBM, -6 pounds fat
Continue reasonable strength gains during body recomp
Day 3: mild palpitations (Form)
Day 4: Fantastic Mood (Halo); rising libido (Form); mild vascularity (Form)
Day 5: Spurratic Blurred vision (Form)
Day 6-8: stomach virus lead to drop in 1/2 pound body weight
Day 9: extra rep per set, increased MMC (Halo); outrageous libido (Form)
Day 14: +2.2 pounds body weight, -2% body fat
Day 19: Questionable back pumps
Day 20: Increase in power on presses as per cycle goals
Day 27: lethargy, mild joint pain, and cramping force routine alterations
Day 28: +6.2 pounds (since beginning of cycle), -2.8% bf
Day 29: begin formestane taper, continue dosage with H-drol
Week 5: reduced pumps successfully with taurine and creatine, mild libido decrease noted, weight is up 2 pounds (although looking softer from the creatine)
- 07-16-2007, 12:52 PM
Subscribed... with bells on.
The plan looks really good. With the kind of results you got on e-form alone, I can't imagine what's going to happen to you with H-drol in there.
Good luck man! Kick some ace!
07-16-2007, 03:57 PM
Looking good celc... maybe it's just me but I would save the TRAC for after cycle just to help with maintainence along with your other goodies.
I've heard about halo's leaning out effects, so the belly should really get some nice effects from this stack.
~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!
07-16-2007, 06:43 PM
Ecto: I pre-loaded some extra hawthorne berry after the issues you had on cycle. I'll keep it going ON cycle and in pct.
Prld: Agreed with the gut. I'm thinking that maybe my measurements were skewed because my abs and obliques were pumped... ya, that's it pumped up abs
I usually just use the TRAC on Saturday mornings when I have my early workout for a jump start of sorts. On other days, I sip on aminos or whey during workout.
50mg H-drol, 40mg TD form
Lats and Bis today: I purposely talked myself into a placebo affect because the weights have not been budging over the past few weeks. It got me an extra rep here and there but nothing spectacular.
07-16-2007, 08:57 PM
07-16-2007, 09:10 PM
Close with the donut T, but it should be more like
Yes sir, 25mg Hdrol with breakfast and 25 with lunch. 20mg TD formestane with morning shower, 20mg TD formestane with evening shower.
I plan to bump up the form to 40mg in the morning if I don't have problems sleeping tonight. I get palpitations sometimes if I increase the dosage too fast. Hey, I have 4-6 weeks to play with the dosage so I'm in no hurry.
07-16-2007, 09:15 PM
07-16-2007, 09:19 PM
last year when i ran hema/prop i had slight drop in libido around week 4. i wonder how much form will help with this. btw stopping my furazadrol after 2nd bottle. down 15 pounds in around a month,wow. will save 3rd bottle for another time.
07-16-2007, 09:21 PM
07-16-2007, 10:21 PM
T, you still feelin strong droppin weight that fast? Let me rephrase the question: Was the Furaz for keeping you strong while you cut? to help shed the weight? or both?
I'll stick with this plan for a few days and gradually bump up the cals as long as my waisteline doesn't get any bigger.
07-16-2007, 10:30 PM
thats a good question. everytime ive done a ph ive gained 10lbs or more. that is why i wanted to try furazadrol, a chance to do a ph and get stronger and tone up without the weight gain. when i started dropping weight i just went with it. 15 pound weight loss and strength is the same. wow, i am happy. i hope you are as happy with your results as i am from mine. good luck.:burg:
07-17-2007, 04:29 AM
07-17-2007, 02:02 PM
07-17-2007, 05:11 PM
Ok kids, I seriously doubt libido is going to be an issue on this stack. I've broken some skinny girls IN HALF while on E-form and I haven't read about any libido issues with any halos run solo. Paravol and A36 are in the stash, just in case... T, you know how I like to plan
As a matter of fact, libido is slightly up and I've had some random wood today. E-form works FAST FAST FAST for me. It's been too long since I've used this stuff!
Slept like a rock last night. Probably cause I wore myself out getting so damm excited about the cycle. I noticed a very positive affect today, and curiously, an increase in pateince at work and while driving
I might need to pick up some more 45s cause I'm gonna get close to 500 on shrugs during this cycle I wish I was having the same problem with squats as I couldn't get focused when I went heavy today. It was a weird workout with some parts strong, and others lackluster.
07-17-2007, 06:33 PM
07-17-2007, 06:53 PM
DAfan1: If I stack 17methyl-Ester-drol with Explode-Tech-Extreme, will novedex xt be enough for my pct?
07-17-2007, 07:01 PM
07-17-2007, 07:32 PM
07-17-2007, 07:45 PM
07-17-2007, 11:53 PM
/Subbed I love you long time Celc ( well ok you too BigT/ Pray lood ).
I broke my formestane cherry today. I gots teh rush I think. It was a ***** to disolve and looks like it chrystallized again so you guys think I should reheat again? ( or whatever the proper term is )
07-17-2007, 11:59 PM
CEl looking good man. I want to see how this works with something dry. Bigt and I were talking about adding this to my Epi/TRN cycle.
Also I see u are going to use Trac Xtreme NO. Its an ok product. Nothing like SuperPump IMO. I used it when I was running Halo/O-E and didn't really notice to much.
Anyway subbed and good luck on ur goals.
07-18-2007, 12:10 AM
07-18-2007, 12:40 AM
It enhances my mood (to the point that my saturday lifting partner has to tell me to shut up and lift), really gives me a stim effect for lifting, and is the key to a good workout when I feel downright schitty. I've heard mixed reviews on TRAC that are pretty much split down the middle so you're not the only one that didn't respond to it.
07-18-2007, 12:42 AM
07-18-2007, 12:50 AM
Just a side thought, but form is going to SERIOUSLY skew your results with your sponsored log... unless you are finished already?
07-18-2007, 01:47 AM
I'm not running it right now until my log is done. Just received it today and wanted to try a dose.
07-18-2007, 04:36 AM
He,he,he... curious little first born.
If it came out of solution, transferr the contents over to a glass beaker and heat the shiat out of it again.... shake like a polaroid picture and you should be set.
~ Nothing can kill the Grimace!!
07-18-2007, 07:56 AM
07-18-2007, 07:57 AM
07-18-2007, 08:52 AM
Ha Ha! Well, it all feels the same in the middle right? Seriously, when I was in college, I read some books by David DeAngelo and it sent my mediocre game through the roof. It's sort of like using a prohormone to push a mediocre body past a plateau.
07-18-2007, 10:12 AM
07-18-2007, 10:18 AM
damn celc, looks like you got all us crazy barst@rds subbed for this one. looks like ill be doing alot of scrolling.again. izza: :donut: :burg: izza: :hot: man i cannot get enough to eat today.
07-18-2007, 10:43 AM
Those 15 pounds are gonna creep back real fast T... better be careful there hulkster
Scrolling is a small price to pay for a fun log! The good natured posts are enjoyable and honestly help to motivate me!
07-18-2007, 10:47 AM
07-18-2007, 11:43 AM
This is a side note here, but do you plan on running a full blood test once you are done ?
07-18-2007, 11:49 AM
07-18-2007, 12:11 PM
07-18-2007, 01:58 PM
And I have to tell you, I was using Form for two weeks a few weeks ago (I broke our plans that we somewhat laid out... ) and at the end of the two weeks I went to a waterpark with my gf and she noticed how vascular I was. Veins sticking out at my shoulders (new to me) and big ones running up the inside of my lower legs from my feet to my calves.
I'm using up my last bit of it for the next 3 weeks along with Stim Free Blue Up while on a high protein, moderate to high fat diet with carbs centered around physical activities. I have a good feeling about this short little stack...
07-18-2007, 02:05 PM
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