H-drol + E-form: Recomp Log
- 07-27-2007, 08:49 AM
- 07-27-2007, 12:50 PM
SURPRISED dino didnt have something to say about possible gyno effects with trib. the only thing that gave me sides like that was tribrex and i think that was from lj.
- 07-27-2007, 12:52 PM
07-27-2007, 12:56 PM
07-27-2007, 01:49 PM
07-27-2007, 02:34 PM
07-27-2007, 02:51 PM
07-27-2007, 04:07 PM
07-27-2007, 04:24 PM
07-27-2007, 05:19 PM
On a serious note, that guy was on a mission to make halo look bad. About a month ago, I saw a post where he was talking about blood work and it was clear that he was out to prove something. He must make too much money to post his pre-cycle test levels, which i had a feeling were out of whack when I read that post several weeks ago before starting the cycle.
You might want to check back on his thread again because I have something to ask of this chap.
07-27-2007, 05:28 PM
07-27-2007, 05:35 PM
thats another point, a lot of guys say not to run activate first week or 2 of pct because your test is still low. how can you increase free test when total test is way down. this guy is advocating activate ON cycle when he claims he is shut down? making too much money to do roids? buy a debit card, get a box number to have it delivered to. im a poor dumbass and i can figure it out. yeah i forgot a poor OLD dumbass.
07-27-2007, 05:39 PM
07-27-2007, 05:40 PM
80mg TD form
Back and Bis
I had a nice boost in the gym today. BB rows are up a few pounds on some really clean reps. I don't like to move the weight up on compound moves unless they are really clean. I also noticed a bit of a boost toward the end of my workout with isolation moves. That is the first time drive in the gym lasted all the way through an intense workout. Mood and libido remain excellent. Agressiveness is up a bit... by the nature of my posts today, right?
07-27-2007, 05:41 PM
07-27-2007, 05:52 PM
07-28-2007, 04:06 PM
I'm gonna go as far as asking, if you were to only take 25mg of H-Drol would there even be any effect at all ?
07-28-2007, 07:13 PM
Reaper: I have to agree and say that he isn't going to get much out of 25mg of Halo except for prolonging suppression. I'm not a fan of tapering ph/anabolic steroids as I believe that once you are suppressed, you remain suppressed.
He should just quit his cycle and start post cycle therapy. Or finish out his cycle as planned at 50mg and then run a thorough post cycle therapy. You are learning my friend!
His arrogant statements and condescending tone really pissed me off initially. I am actually surprised that he has toned it down a bit since then. Also, as T mentioned in that thread, his bloodwork doesn't tell us much at all.
Chest, Shoulders, Calves: For the first time in 2 years, my power push is getting stronger I am up to 190 x 6 today on decline bench, which is approaching a PR.
The rest of the workout was an absolute marathon for shoulders and calves. I also had to throw in my fancy back extension routine for the awkward low back feelings last week. I'm fairly certain that the extra 10 minutes of core stability will make deadlift days all that much more fun. Libido is normal and the "twins" show zero signs of atrophy.
Any reason to not go up to 100mg of form? I'm thinking I'd like to stay at 100-120 for week 3 and then begin to slowly taper for week 4 and 5. That way I'll have 1 week without the formestane AI before starting up my post cycle therapy.
07-28-2007, 10:16 PM
07-28-2007, 10:27 PM
07-28-2007, 11:27 PM
Formestane is like being an attack dog while halo is like being a puppy. The combination of cute, yet lethal, is unsuspecting and VERY productive
So T, you think 100 or 120 is ok? ...leaning more toward the aggressive side and less toward the cute side. I'm doing well with the halo at 50 so I plan to keep it there for week 3.
07-29-2007, 07:55 AM
07-29-2007, 08:48 AM
This is a quote from the Dr. Hauser forum (dinoiii) from the Lean Bulk board. 7/25/07
The original post was a question in regards to ramping and then tapering epistane in a pyramid fashion.
07-29-2007, 12:03 PM
Well if Prelude says to bump the form, then I'm POSITIVE T would say to do the same
Body Comp check for week 2:
Bodyweight: 196.6 (+2.2 pounds)
Bodyfat%: 14.47% (-2% WHOA)
Lean Body Mass: 168.15 (+5.77 )
Fat Mass: 28.45 (-3.57)
*Disclaimer: the same trainer has been doing my 7 point skinfold for consistancy.
Don't worry fellas, I compensate fairly for her services ose:
*Significant events updated.
07-29-2007, 12:24 PM
07-29-2007, 12:32 PM
absolutely bump it up. the form that is. this is just something an est rep named sonny crocket told me when i ran hema/prop last year. if your are stacking two ph's after you stop the stronger one which in this case was hema, continue the weaker one prop in this case for an extra week to let you body down easy. hence the running of formestane a week into pct. there is so much conflicting info out there it will make your head spin, but i like this idea. izza:
07-29-2007, 12:47 PM
My logic was to get formestane out of my system in a ramp/taper fashion before starting 6brom (restore) in post cycle therapy:
Week 3: 120mg form
Week 4: taper to 100 then 80
Week 5: taper to 60 then 40
Week 6: no formestane (Halo is continued of course)
Week 7: Restore (ramped and tapered for 5 weeks starting at 1 cap)
So you are you suggesting to continue running Formestane into week 1 of post cycle therapy? T, that would be SEVEN weeks of form and should I be concerned with Form's ph characteristics in post cycle therapy? We've got plenty of time so explain away my lean mean friend
07-29-2007, 12:52 PM
07-29-2007, 12:55 PM
07-29-2007, 01:05 PM
07-29-2007, 10:02 PM
07-29-2007, 10:07 PM
07-29-2007, 10:28 PM
In respect to your tip to asses tolerance ecto, if I could give one tip to someone who wanted to plan their first cycle, I would say to try a few AI's and free test boosters and cort control agents before hand. That way you can tailor your plan around supplements that you like personally, and not just base your plan on second hand information.
07-29-2007, 10:39 PM
I also think that's good advice on testing AI's, test boosters, etc. Everyone, including me, seems to focus on the PH, but all that other stuff is potent too and some are cleaner and/or more effective for one person versus another.
Now I know. And as G.I. Joe says, "Knowing is half the battle!" God I'm a dork.
Sleepy time for me. Keep it up Celc. You're gettin huge! I never asked if you were going to have pics, and it's obviously too late now, but you have to be noticing big changes in the mirror, yes?
07-29-2007, 10:57 PM
07-30-2007, 05:23 AM
07-30-2007, 09:48 AM
Ecto I thought about puttin up before pics but lost track of everything I wanted to figure out in leau (sp?) of setting up the supp plan, diet/macros, routine, and log. I have a pic from before my alri run at 19% bf but I'm not sure if I have any before this cycle at 16.5. Yes, there's a DRAMATIC difference right now at 14.5 and sendin phone pix messages to tease the ladies is workin better than the guitar right now
Does anyone else think it's peculiar that I'm taking cycle advice from 2 Homer Simpsons?
07-30-2007, 11:59 AM
Have you really had any side effects that you've noticed thus far ? 5lbs+ of quality muscle is awesome. There's nothing wrong with doing it little by little.
07-30-2007, 12:22 PM
07-30-2007, 01:00 PM
Reaper if I wanted to get REALLY picky, I would say that I'm slightly irritable and antsy. Sleep has been altered 2 or 3 times as well but other nights sleep is fantastic. No other sides. I'm prone to thinning hair in the front and I'm using Nizoral OTC from Wal Mart. No increase in hair loss whatsoever. No testicular atrophy noted and libido is off the charts.
UNC, I'm super pumped about the bf% so far. I'm rediculously strict about my diet as well but I'm POSITIVE the eform and H-drol are contributing to changes this quickly.
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